Adding to the debate about whether we are in a constitutional crisis.

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White House touts deportation of alleged gang members that court ordered returned to US​

President Donald Trump’s White House is celebrating his use of a rarely invoked wartime authority to carry out the mass deportation of hundreds of alleged gang members to El Salvador in an episode that fueled doubts about the ability of the U.S. court system to constrain the Trump administration’s actions.

After a federal judge issued an unusual order Saturday evening that required all planes carrying those covered by Trump’s Alien Enemies Act declaration to return to the U.S, at least one planeload of Venezuelan deportees continued on to San Salvador and discharged its passengers to a waiting brigade of Salvadoran soldiers, police and videographers.

Grim video posted on X by El Salvador’s president, Nayib Bukele, contained movie-like scenes set over a music soundtrack and depicted soldiers leading tattooed men off an airplane, forcing them to bend toward the ground as they were frog-marched to waiting buses and had their heads shaved by hooded prison guards.

Statements from Bukele and from Trump allies mocking the court order issued by the chief U.S. District Judge in Washington, James Boasberg, contributed to an air of fecklessness around the U.S. legal system in Trump’s second term.


It's not the first time trump refused to comply with a court order. It likely won't be the last as he tries to normalize ignoring the courts.
 
So, the purpose of the Judiciary is to keep the Legislative and Executive branch in check when the go BEYOND the Constitutional limits. In other words, someone has to have standing in a court and make a claim that some government agency is breaking the Constitution.

The Executive, exercising long standing and Constituional power, does not fall under the Judiciary.

Those who brought the lawsuit against the Executive have not made any attempt, as far as I can see, to state that they are outside the Constitution.

Therefore, we have no crisis because the Federal Judge stepped outside his authority.
 

White House touts deportation of alleged gang members that court ordered returned to US​

President Donald Trump’s White House is celebrating his use of a rarely invoked wartime authority to carry out the mass deportation of hundreds of alleged gang members to El Salvador in an episode that fueled doubts about the ability of the U.S. court system to constrain the Trump administration’s actions.

After a federal judge issued an unusual order Saturday evening that required all planes carrying those covered by Trump’s Alien Enemies Act declaration to return to the U.S, at least one planeload of Venezuelan deportees continued on to San Salvador and discharged its passengers to a waiting brigade of Salvadoran soldiers, police and videographers.

Grim video posted on X by El Salvador’s president, Nayib Bukele, contained movie-like scenes set over a music soundtrack and depicted soldiers leading tattooed men off an airplane, forcing them to bend toward the ground as they were frog-marched to waiting buses and had their heads shaved by hooded prison guards.

Statements from Bukele and from Trump allies mocking the court order issued by the chief U.S. District Judge in Washington, James Boasberg, contributed to an air of fecklessness around the U.S. legal system in Trump’s second term.


It's not the first time trump refused to comply with a court order. It likely won't be the last as he tries to normalize ignoring the courts.

Die on that hill!

"Bring back the violent gang members, NOW!!!" DURR
 
So, the purpose of the Judiciary is to keep the Legislative and Executive branch in check when the go BEYOND the Constitutional limits. In other words, someone has to have standing in a court and make a claim that some government agency is breaking the Constitution.

The Executive, exercising long standing and Constituional power, does not fall under the Judiciary.

Those who brought the lawsuit against the Executive have not made any attempt, as far as I can see, to state that they are outside the Constitution.

Therefore, we have no crisis because the Federal Judge stepped outside his authority.

The Crisis is the Judiciary overstepping its bounds.
 
It's not the first time trump refused to comply with a court order. It likely won't be the last as he tries to normalize ignoring the courts.
Excellent. Thsts exactly the sort of leadership we need right now. If the courts refuse to act in the best interest of America abd Americans… then fuck them.
 

White House touts deportation of alleged gang members that court ordered returned to US​

President Donald Trump’s White House is celebrating his use of a rarely invoked wartime authority to carry out the mass deportation of hundreds of alleged gang members to El Salvador in an episode that fueled doubts about the ability of the U.S. court system to constrain the Trump administration’s actions.

After a federal judge issued an unusual order Saturday evening that required all planes carrying those covered by Trump’s Alien Enemies Act declaration to return to the U.S, at least one planeload of Venezuelan deportees continued on to San Salvador and discharged its passengers to a waiting brigade of Salvadoran soldiers, police and videographers.

Grim video posted on X by El Salvador’s president, Nayib Bukele, contained movie-like scenes set over a music soundtrack and depicted soldiers leading tattooed men off an airplane, forcing them to bend toward the ground as they were frog-marched to waiting buses and had their heads shaved by hooded prison guards.

Statements from Bukele and from Trump allies mocking the court order issued by the chief U.S. District Judge in Washington, James Boasberg, contributed to an air of fecklessness around the U.S. legal system in Trump’s second term.


It's not the first time trump refused to comply with a court order. It likely won't be the last as he tries to normalize ignoring the courts.
Every time he does this, we do get a step closer.

Vance has already signaled this, multiple times.

If Trump ignores a Supreme Court ruling and gets away with it, we're no longer a Constitutional Republic.
 

White House touts deportation of alleged gang members that court ordered returned to US​

President Donald Trump’s White House is celebrating his use of a rarely invoked wartime authority to carry out the mass deportation of hundreds of alleged gang members to El Salvador in an episode that fueled doubts about the ability of the U.S. court system to constrain the Trump administration’s actions.

After a federal judge issued an unusual order Saturday evening that required all planes carrying those covered by Trump’s Alien Enemies Act declaration to return to the U.S, at least one planeload of Venezuelan deportees continued on to San Salvador and discharged its passengers to a waiting brigade of Salvadoran soldiers, police and videographers.

Grim video posted on X by El Salvador’s president, Nayib Bukele, contained movie-like scenes set over a music soundtrack and depicted soldiers leading tattooed men off an airplane, forcing them to bend toward the ground as they were frog-marched to waiting buses and had their heads shaved by hooded prison guards.

Statements from Bukele and from Trump allies mocking the court order issued by the chief U.S. District Judge in Washington, James Boasberg, contributed to an air of fecklessness around the U.S. legal system in Trump’s second term.


It's not the first time trump refused to comply with a court order. It likely won't be the last as he tries to normalize ignoring the courts.
upset all your buddies are being deported?
 

White House touts deportation of alleged gang members that court ordered returned to US​

President Donald Trump’s White House is celebrating his use of a rarely invoked wartime authority to carry out the mass deportation of hundreds of alleged gang members to El Salvador in an episode that fueled doubts about the ability of the U.S. court system to constrain the Trump administration’s actions.

After a federal judge issued an unusual order Saturday evening that required all planes carrying those covered by Trump’s Alien Enemies Act declaration to return to the U.S, at least one planeload of Venezuelan deportees continued on to San Salvador and discharged its passengers to a waiting brigade of Salvadoran soldiers, police and videographers.

Grim video posted on X by El Salvador’s president, Nayib Bukele, contained movie-like scenes set over a music soundtrack and depicted soldiers leading tattooed men off an airplane, forcing them to bend toward the ground as they were frog-marched to waiting buses and had their heads shaved by hooded prison guards.

Statements from Bukele and from Trump allies mocking the court order issued by the chief U.S. District Judge in Washington, James Boasberg, contributed to an air of fecklessness around the U.S. legal system in Trump’s second term.


It's not the first time trump refused to comply with a court order. It likely won't be the last as he tries to normalize ignoring the courts.
Something is definitely fucked up when a demented "President" can open the borders WITHOUT ANY CONSTITUTIONAL OR STATUTORY AUTHORITY to do so but now President Trump must dot the i's and cross the T's in an effort to send them back to their country of origin.


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Every time he does this, we do get a step closer.

Vance has already signaled this, multiple times.

If Trump ignores a Supreme Court ruling and gets away with it, we're no longer a Constitutional Republic.
I don't think he would go that far after having appoint 1/3 of the justices. But he is clearly trying to funnel cases their way in the hope the rock solid base of crazies.....Alito, Thomas, and Gorsuch, will help carry the day for him. Fulfilling his ambition to wield unchecked power.
 
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