ACORN Finally Charged

[Big Cat]

It would be great to see congress stop the money flow to acorn. Then Daley, Soros and the rest of the Chicago gang would have to pony up.

 

[justabubba]

It would be great to see congress stop the money flow to acorn. Then Daley, Soros and the rest of the Chicago gang would have to pony up.

i keep seeing this reference to a congressional directed money flow to ACORN ... yet no one is able/willing to offer a cite which shows the federal funds which have been appropriated for its activities

is that just misinformation which keeps getting passed around or is there actually documentation of its federal funding sources?

 

[007]

It would be great to see congress stop the money flow to acorn. Then Daley, Soros and the rest of the Chicago gang would have to pony up.

i keep seeing this reference to a congressional directed money flow to ACORN ... yet no one is able/willing to offer a cite which shows the federal funds which have been appropriated for its activities

is that just misinformation which keeps getting passed around or is there actually documentation of its federal funding sources?

They get money from many different places... ESPECIALLY from those who want them to help them get elected, by whatever means necessary....

Obama is Nuts Over Acorn

Acorn, a controversial group that is involved in numerous voter fraud investigations, has been associated with Senator Obama repeatedly–something that he tries to deny. ACORN is an acronym for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. It bills itself as the nation’s largest community organization of low and moderate income families. The reality is that it is a radical organization that is dedicated to electing liberal to radical candidates. Senator Obama tries to downplay any connection to the controversial group. The facts, however, show that he has been associated with the group, has supported and defended the group, contributes to it and is supported by Acorn in return.

In 1992, Obama directed Project VOTE for Acorn. This grass-roots voter registration drive added 125,000 voters and is widely credited with getting Carol Moseley-Braun elected to the Senate. She was the first African American woman to become a member of the Senate and one of the most liberal Senators. Fortunately for the country, she was voted out when she lost to Republican Peter Fitzgerald in 1998 after one term.

Between 1993 and 2002, Obama was a board member for The Woods Fund of Chicago in Illinois. While there, he provided Acorn with tens of thousands of dollars a year. For anyone interested in more details, the exact amounts are available in the IRS form 990 for each year. This form is filed annually by non-profits and is public information.

In 1995, Obama and a team of other lawyers represented Acorn in a lawsuit against Illinois for failing to implement a federal law intended to make it easier for the poor to register and vote.

Recently, Senator Obama paid Acorn $800,000 to create get-out-the-vote efforts for the presidential campaign. He misrepresented what the money paid to Acorn would be used for to the Federal Election Commission. He originally had filed reports saying that the money was for polling, advance work and staging major events.

Democrats SUCK! » Obama is Nuts Over Acorn

 

[DamnYankee]

It would be great to see congress stop the money flow to acorn. Then Daley, Soros and the rest of the Chicago gang would have to pony up.

i keep seeing this reference to a congressional directed money flow to ACORN ... yet no one is able/willing to offer a cite which shows the federal funds which have been appropriated for its activities

is that just misinformation which keeps getting passed around or is there actually documentation of its federal funding sources?

Here's an example

Nonprofits Vie For Millions in Neighborhood Stabilization Funds
Critics worry money could benefit liberal advocacy groups

By David N. Bass
February 16, 2009

RALEIGH — Local governments and nonprofits in North Carolina are vying for millions in federal dollars meant to bail out counties suffering from the housing crisis, but critics fear the funds could benefit private lenders and liberal advocacy groups more than struggling homeowners.

Congress allocated $4 billion in July for the Neighborhood Stabilization Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. The funds, part of the $700 billion bail out of the mortgage industry, enable local governments to purchase and resell foreclosed homes, ostensibly avoiding blight. North Carolina qualified for $52 million in NSP funds, and Charlotte received an additional $5 million.

Supporters say the funds will help homeowners weather a turbulent economy, but state-level homeowner groups and free-market advocates are approaching the program cautiously in light of numerous scandals involving misuse of mortgage bailout funds.

“We’re concerned that they really stay on point with housing,” said Chris Estes, executive director of the North Carolina Housing Coalition, an organization that campaigns for low- and moderate-income housing.

“We want to make sure that cities don’t use this to supplant some of their other funding and use it to build a park or a parking deck,” he said.

The U.S. Office of Inspector General identifies NSP funds as “high risk.” That, mixed with weeks of headlines about misappropriation of government funds, has some members of North Carolina’s congressional delegation worried, too.

“With much of the money being funneled to liberal political groups like ACORN, [which] is under federal investigation, there must be strict oversight to prevent the waste and abuse of tax dollars,” said U.S. Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-10th, an opponent of the bailout.

U.S. Rep. Virginia Foxx, R-5th, another critic of the bailout, called the NSP constitutionally suspect. “Like I’ve said before, if you liked the way the federal government handled Hurricane Katrina relief, you’ll love the way they handle real estate investments,” she said.

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Nonprofits Vie For Millions in Neighborhood Stabilization Funds

 

[AllieBaba]

At last, a definition for whatever weird term Obama used on his resume...community organizer? community sponge? I dis-remember.

 

[justabubba]

They get money from many different places... ESPECIALLY from those who want them to help them get elected, by whatever means necessary....

sure they do
it's income they need to operate, just as with any other business organization (for profit or non profit organization)
but what is alleged is what has not been proven. that the congress is appropriating federal funds for ACORN's activities

ACORN, just as any other business entity can bid on and be awarded federal contracts to perform government specified activities. or are you saying it should not be entitled to do that, despite being a legitimate business organization?
but nowhere is anyone showing the congress giving over federal monies for ACORN directed activities

that's the problem, it seems. you want to find ACORN guilty of wrong doing but you are unable to provide any evidence of such

 

[AllieBaba]

We already provided it. CONVICTIONS spread over decades of voter fraud and other illegal activities.

 

[justabubba]

...
“With much of the money being funneled to liberal political groups like ACORN, [which] is under federal investigation, there must be strict oversight to prevent the waste and abuse of tax dollars,” said U.S. Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-10th, an opponent of the bailout. ...

patrick mchenry is a nitwit ...he calls our troops "two bit" - who are performing their military duties according to SOP
add your own www
.youtube.com/watch?v=y9FAfQ2imUw
then after being protected by these "two bit" soldiers he breaks military protocol ... see the result for yourself:

In an effort to bolster his own national security credentials in the midst of "Sniper-gate," Congressman Patrick McHenry (R-NC) gave away intelligence information last week that could have aided Shi'ite militias and/or other terrorist organizations in targeting the Green Zone. Only two days after McHenry promoted a video of himself in the Green Zone describing in detail the effectiveness of the rocket attacks on Easter Sunday, the area was hit with a barrage that killed two U.S. soldiers and wounded 17 others. It was the deadliest attack on the Green Zone so far this year.

dubya dubya dubya .bluenc.com/mchenry-violates-green-zone-military-security

heck of a job, mchenry

that's your spokesmodel, who, like those imbibing kool aid, offers no specifics to show us that ACORN is wrongly receiving federal funds

 

[007]

They get money from many different places... ESPECIALLY from those who want them to help them get elected, by whatever means necessary....

sure they do
it's income they need to operate, just as with any other business organization (for profit or non profit organization)
but what is alleged is what has not been proven. that the congress is appropriating federal funds for ACORN's activities

ACORN, just as any other business entity can bid on and be awarded federal contracts to perform government specified activities. or are you saying it should not be entitled to do that, despite being a legitimate business organization?
but nowhere is anyone showing the congress giving over federal monies for ACORN directed activities

that's the problem, it seems. you want to find ACORN guilty of wrong doing but you are unable to provide any evidence of such

Are you for real? There's "PROOF" right here in this thread.

Oh I get it... you probably WORK for acorn...

 

[justabubba]

Are you for real? There's "PROOF" right here in this thread.

Oh I get it... you probably WORK for acorn...

let's look at this "proof" you speak of
ACORN imposed minimum performance standards and now a right wing prosecutor is alleging that constitutes wrongdoing by ACORN
ACORN was the victim of employees who gamed the system; it was not the perp

but we can see why you are pissed. ACORN was very effective in getting out the vote

where is your trail of tears regarding the disenfranchisement of many minority florida voters in 2000. that was overt manipulation of an election ... but for some reason - your guy won - you have no problem with that violation of the law

lose the partisanship and argue your position on the merits ... but first, find some

 

[Tech_Esq]

It would be great to see congress stop the money flow to acorn. Then Daley, Soros and the rest of the Chicago gang would have to pony up.

i keep seeing this reference to a congressional directed money flow to ACORN ... yet no one is able/willing to offer a cite which shows the federal funds which have been appropriated for its activities

is that just misinformation which keeps getting passed around or is there actually documentation of its federal funding sources?

I know, there is such a countervailing wind (hot air) coming from the social democrats these days that it is difficult to discern truth from the fiction they spout.

But, here is the objective truth:

One of the biggest likely beneficiaries, despite Republican objections: Acorn, a housing advocacy group that also helps lead ambitious voter-registration efforts benefiting Democrats.

WallStreet Journal article from Last July describing the funding allocated to ACORN in the housing bill.

Of course the problem is that laws are never written like this:

The United States Government hereby transfers $4 billion to the group known as ACORN.

Instead, it looks like this from the 2009 Economic Stimulus:

Title XII would make $1 billion available for Community Development Block Grants (CDBG).

And what groups are eligible for that? Groups like La Rasza and ACORN. So ACORNs name is being used but it is not the only "Community Organizing" group eligible for the the funds. Their name is just being used as representing all of those groups (like Xerox means photocopy and Kleenex means facial tissue.)

So, there's 1 billion....

The Self-Help and Assisted Homeownership Opportunity Program would provide $10 million for rehabilitating low-income housing.

A little more.....but what's $10 million between friends....hardly worth mentioning.

The 4.19 billion Neighborhood Stabilization Program would help with foreclosure relief. $3.44 billion would be available to states, localities and nonprofit groups such as ACORN, while $750 million would be available to exclusively to groups.

Holy crap! it's the motherload!

Now obviously not all of the billions are going to ACORN. That's why officials talking about it were careful to say "groups like...." or "up to $4 billion" and other bits of artful language. Despite that it is clear that ACORN is going to get one hell of a lot of money out of the stimulus. At a minimum it will be in the hundreds of millions of dollars if not over a billion.

So, let's look at what is actually being done now that it is the law.
HUD Awards for Neighborhood Stabilization activities

Program Description

Neighborhood Stabilization Program (NSP), round 2. Competitive grants awarded for activities eligible under division B, title III of the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 (Public Law 110-289, NSP round 1), to address home foreclosure and abandonment and for the provision of capacity building and support for NSP grantees.

Who can do it?

Eligible Applicants

Eligible applicants are states, units of general local government, nonprofit entities, and consortia of nonprofit entities, which may submit proposals in partnership with for profit entities.

So, to answer your question directly, the above research proves that Congress is allocating money that ACORN and other groups of their ilk will receive through several vehicles.

If you want to go back even further, ACORN was allocated funds in the funding for Fannie Mae.

And if you want to see some thing that will really make you question how all this happened, look at this from "ACORN Housing, LLC" ACORN joins forces with Fannie, Citi and BoA

 

[DamnYankee]

They get money from many different places... ESPECIALLY from those who want them to help them get elected, by whatever means necessary....

sure they do
it's income they need to operate, just as with any other business organization (for profit or non profit organization)
but what is alleged is what has not been proven. that the congress is appropriating federal funds for ACORN's activities

ACORN, just as any other business entity can bid on and be awarded federal contracts to perform government specified activities. or are you saying it should not be entitled to do that, despite being a legitimate business organization?
but nowhere is anyone showing the congress giving over federal monies for ACORN directed activities

that's the problem, it seems. you want to find ACORN guilty of wrong doing but you are unable to provide any evidence of such

That's rich.... I suppose that you have no problem with the mob funnelling money through legitimate business organizations?

 

[Tech_Esq]

...
“With much of the money being funneled to liberal political groups like ACORN, [which] is under federal investigation, there must be strict oversight to prevent the waste and abuse of tax dollars,” said U.S. Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-10th, an opponent of the bailout. ...

patrick mchenry is a nitwit ...he calls our troops "two bit" - who are performing their military duties according to SOP
add your own www
.youtube.com/watch?v=y9FAfQ2imUw
then after being protected by these "two bit" soldiers he breaks military protocol ... see the result for yourself:

In an effort to bolster his own national security credentials in the midst of "Sniper-gate," Congressman Patrick McHenry (R-NC) gave away intelligence information last week that could have aided Shi'ite militias and/or other terrorist organizations in targeting the Green Zone. Only two days after McHenry promoted a video of himself in the Green Zone describing in detail the effectiveness of the rocket attacks on Easter Sunday, the area was hit with a barrage that killed two U.S. soldiers and wounded 17 others. It was the deadliest attack on the Green Zone so far this year.

dubya dubya dubya .bluenc.com/mchenry-violates-green-zone-military-security

heck of a job, mchenry

that's your spokesmodel, who, like those imbibing kool aid, offers no specifics to show us that ACORN is wrongly receiving federal funds

Did you intend to expose yourself as a party hack or could you just not help yourself?

 

[Newby]

They get money from many different places... ESPECIALLY from those who want them to help them get elected, by whatever means necessary....

That's rich.... I suppose that you have no problem with the mob funnelling money through legitimate business organizations?

Great analogy.

 

[justabubba]

They get money from many different places... ESPECIALLY from those who want them to help them get elected, by whatever means necessary....


That's rich.... I suppose that you have no problem with the mob funnelling money through legitimate business organizations?

no one mentioned the mob or other illicit money sources. that would make ACORN an ineligible enterprise, which is not the actual circumstance. i would say "nice try" but it wasn't

what was also not mentioned was a cite to show congress is allocating federal monies for ACORN directed activities

the kool aid klatch keeps making that assertion but cannot show that it is true. man up and show some poof of your allegations

 

[NOBama]

What's ACORN's track record on voter registerations; Dem vs Rep?

 

[Tech_Esq]

What's the matter BUBBA? Cat got your tongue?

I'm still waiting for your insightful response.

 

[justabubba]

It would be great to see congress stop the money flow to acorn. Then Daley, Soros and the rest of the Chicago gang would have to pony up.

i keep seeing this reference to a congressional directed money flow to ACORN ... yet no one is able/willing to offer a cite which shows the federal funds which have been appropriated for its activities

is that just misinformation which keeps getting passed around or is there actually documentation of its federal funding sources?

I know, there is such a countervailing wind (hot air) coming from the social democrats these days that it is difficult to discern truth from the fiction they spout.

But, here is the objective truth:


WallStreet Journal article from Last July describing the funding allocated to ACORN in the housing bill.

Of course the problem is that laws are never written like this:

The United States Government hereby transfers $4 billion to the group known as ACORN.

Instead, it looks like this from the 2009 Economic Stimulus:

And what groups are eligible for that? Groups like La Rasza and ACORN. So ACORNs name is being used but it is not the only "Community Organizing" group eligible for the the funds. Their name is just being used as representing all of those groups (like Xerox means photocopy and Kleenex means facial tissue.)

So, there's 1 billion....



A little more.....but what's $10 million between friends....hardly worth mentioning.



Holy crap! it's the motherload!

Now obviously not all of the billions are going to ACORN. That's why officials talking about it were careful to say "groups like...." or "up to $4 billion" and other bits of artful language. Despite that it is clear that ACORN is going to get one hell of a lot of money out of the stimulus. At a minimum it will be in the hundreds of millions of dollars if not over a billion.

So, let's look at what is actually being done now that it is the law.
HUD Awards for Neighborhood Stabilization activities

Program Description

Neighborhood Stabilization Program (NSP), round 2. Competitive grants awarded for activities eligible under division B, title III of the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 (Public Law 110-289, NSP round 1), to address home foreclosure and abandonment and for the provision of capacity building and support for NSP grantees.

Who can do it?

Eligible Applicants

Eligible applicants are states, units of general local government, nonprofit entities, and consortia of nonprofit entities, which may submit proposals in partnership with for profit entities.

So, to answer your question directly, the above research proves that Congress is allocating money that ACORN and other groups of their ilk will receive through several vehicles.

If you want to go back even further, ACORN was allocated funds in the funding for Fannie Mae.

And if you want to see some thing that will really make you question how all this happened, look at this from "ACORN Housing, LLC" ACORN joins forces with Fannie, Citi and BoA

you wanted an insightful response, but to what i have no idea

again, you have proferred nothing more than ACORN qualified as a contractor to do the government's work, as written in the statement of work in each contract
guarantee that you will see nothing there funding ACORN's efforts to register voters
but if the arm of the organization which addresses the housing needs of the disenfranchised is both qualified and is the best value offeror on the federal award, why would you think ACORN is not eligible to receive those funds to do the government's work

and i am pleased to recognize the growth evident in your admission that the congress does NOT sppropriate funds for ACORN

 

[Newby]

i keep seeing this reference to a congressional directed money flow to ACORN ... yet no one is able/willing to offer a cite which shows the federal funds which have been appropriated for its activities

is that just misinformation which keeps getting passed around or is there actually documentation of its federal funding sources?

I know, there is such a countervailing wind (hot air) coming from the social democrats these days that it is difficult to discern truth from the fiction they spout.

But, here is the objective truth:


WallStreet Journal article from Last July describing the funding allocated to ACORN in the housing bill.

Of course the problem is that laws are never written like this:

The United States Government hereby transfers $4 billion to the group known as ACORN.

Instead, it looks like this from the 2009 Economic Stimulus:

And what groups are eligible for that? Groups like La Rasza and ACORN. So ACORNs name is being used but it is not the only "Community Organizing" group eligible for the the funds. Their name is just being used as representing all of those groups (like Xerox means photocopy and Kleenex means facial tissue.)

So, there's 1 billion....



A little more.....but what's $10 million between friends....hardly worth mentioning.



Holy crap! it's the motherload!

Now obviously not all of the billions are going to ACORN. That's why officials talking about it were careful to say "groups like...." or "up to $4 billion" and other bits of artful language. Despite that it is clear that ACORN is going to get one hell of a lot of money out of the stimulus. At a minimum it will be in the hundreds of millions of dollars if not over a billion.

So, let's look at what is actually being done now that it is the law.
HUD Awards for Neighborhood Stabilization activities



Who can do it?

Eligible Applicants

Eligible applicants are states, units of general local government, nonprofit entities, and consortia of nonprofit entities, which may submit proposals in partnership with for profit entities.

So, to answer your question directly, the above research proves that Congress is allocating money that ACORN and other groups of their ilk will receive through several vehicles.

If you want to go back even further, ACORN was allocated funds in the funding for Fannie Mae.

And if you want to see some thing that will really make you question how all this happened, look at this from "ACORN Housing, LLC" ACORN joins forces with Fannie, Citi and BoA

you wanted an insightful response, but to what i have no idea

again, you have proferred nothing more than ACORN qualified as a contractor to do the government's work, as written in the statement of work in each contract
guarantee that you will see nothing there funding ACORN's efforts to register voters
but if the arm of the organization which addresses the housing needs of the disenfranchised is both qualified and is the best value offeror on the federal award, why would you think ACORN is not eligible to receive those funds to do the government's work

and i am pleased to recognize the growth evident in your admission that the congress does NOT sppropriate funds for ACORN

No one said anything about money for voter registration. Do you think they care how they're awarded their millions?? In the end, the payback is indeed for what they have done to help the Democrat party in election years and specifically this last one. How they get it is irrelevant.

 

[justabubba]

No one said anything about money for voter registration. Do you think they care how they're awarded their millions?? In the end, the payback is indeed for what they have done to help the Democrat party in election years and specifically this last one. How they get it is irrelevant.

so, that ACORN is receiving the government's money to do the government's work is bad in what way?
i apologize for my post. i thought you had a point to make. my bad