Abstinence 'is not realistic,' Palin's daughter says

[Skull Pilot]

okay robert follow me here...a man owns his sperm till he does what? ...say it with me...gives it to a woman...then she owns the sperm and can use it....moral of this little tale...keep your hands and sperm to yourself....condoms work great for this

men must take responsiblity for where they spread their sperm....i love how men pretend to be all weak...i couldnt resist blah blah blah...well think about 18 yrs plus of childsupport when you engage in unprotected sex

This is exactly why i tell my son to never never never trust a woman, not even if he's married, with birth control.

And the kicker of this whole argument is that a woman can have an abortion, or abandon a child under safe haven laws and there is absolutely no stigma attached.

But a man who doesn't want the child is forced to pay and pay and if he doesn't want to be "actively involved" in raising said child, he is labeled as a deadbeat, a bad person, a man of poor character while the woman is lionized and praised even if she lied to him about being on the pill.

So men, never trust a woman with birth control.

This brings up another issue that bugs the shit out of me.

A woman can walk into an abortion clinic and terminate a pregnancy and she is never asked, "What does the father think about you aborting his child?"

But when I was 26, I went to a urologist to have a vasectomy and the nurse asked me, "What does your wife think about you getting a vasectomy?"

To which I answered "I don't care what she thinks about it."

the doctor tried to tell me that my wife (now my ex) had to be involved and actually sign some of the paperwork. Needless to say I told the doctor that I would do no such thing, that I and I alone was in charge of any and all of my own medical decisions.

Yet another double standard when it comes to reproduction.

 

[Care4all]

I agree, if the man does not want his sperm to fertilize an egg, then he needs to take care of that himself.....do not trust the woman, I agree....

One-birth control is only 99.9% safe if the woman takes the pill every day at the exact same time....if she forgets a day and doubles up on the next days dose as per the instructions then she is at greater risk of the pill NOT being 99.9% safe....if this happens a couple of days a month, where she forgets one day and doubles up on the next, Birth control pills become more and more unsafe.

Secondly, and in general... women are made to have babies...whether they like it or not....and sometimes the subconscious urge overcomes her rationality....meaning, she is willing to do the "good deed", as the hubby calls it , in the heat of the moment without the conscious thought of "maybe i will get pregnant"...the INNER female is controlling this without knowledge of our outer beings imho and totally can make us irrational, or risky, because our bodies and our purpose in the overall big picture, is to keep the human race alive.

Granted, many women are very careful with their own bodies and protecting from unwanted pregnancies...but if i were a man, i would still not rely solely on her....never!

so why do some woman abort if having a child is an innate trait? I think through thousands upon thousands of years of men being the provider, we know deep inside that we need a good mate to be there to help us rear this offspring.

In general, I think if the woman sees that her mate is not going to be there in that manner, abortion for some of them, becomes acceptable.

I am not talking about the women that whore around day and night and use abortion merely as a birth control method....which i do not believe is true with very many women...it's just too costly to use abortion as a birth control method and no one in their right mind would ever choose abortion...a risky surgery, over the bc pill.....just way too costly and also very harmful to their bodies with repeat abortions...

I know it all sounds silly, and we think we are above other animals when it comes to sex, and can control ourselves and make sound decisions yah dee dah..... and i say it's not really silly....there are stronger forces at bay than what meets the mere surface.

so, if you are a guy....protect your own sperm and as strolling said, don't give it away so easily unless you are ready for parenthood.....because as of just a year ago I had read, that 43% of all children born in America today are born to SINGLE MOTHERS....

That right there shows that women are not that careful with preventing their own pregnancy, and also it could be indicative of the times we are in, where more women can take care of themselves...even if the man dumps them and their child?

That's my take on....pretty archaic perhaps, but i still think there are stronger forces lurking....

care

 

[dilloduck]

I really can't imagine why people feel the need to question her age. She's as old as she says she is; I don't know why two separate threads were started about that topic.

It's a joke !

 

[Anguille]

Hindsight is 20/20.

Hindsight IS NOT 20/20. To wit: IF ONLY I'd have bought a PS3 instead of a Wii, I'd be happy. Would I have REALLY been happier with the PS3? Who knows?

Hindsight IS NOT 20/20.

IF ONLY I'd not said that about hindsight. Would you not have corrected me? Who knows?

Do you know who knows?

 

[midcan5]

This thread made me laugh out loud a few times. It's rather funny that Palin's daughter is saying that, are the youth of the republican party becoming more liberal or at least more realistic.

 

[Anguille]

This thread.
It'll make you cry.
It will make you laugh.

For a few it was completely orgasmic.


purr

 

[dilloduck]

This thread.
It'll make you cry.
I will make you laugh.

For a few it was completely orgasmic.


purr

Lmao----it was wild

 

[catzmeow]

I like the way girls kiss and touch me. But I don't know it's just wrong. I don't know why but I feel so dirty for even doing it beside enjoying it. I was hoping we would talk about it and you could tell me why you think it's ok and I could make some sense of it and rationalize it so I didn't feel the way I do. More than just making out I like boys better. I like the power and strength of a man, I don't know hpow to describe it, it just mke sme breathless. But therewas something about the gentleness of girls that I can't get out of my mind. I don't think it's natural or right and it makes me feel a little sick at the same time but I wish boys could be... I dunno just more like girls with me at first.

It makes sense to me. A lot of it is your age. Guys your age are typically not very patient, and they tend to fumble around a lot, and be in a rush. Girls are gentler and slower. As you get older, you will find that men slow down and get gentler and more experienced, too. So, it will get better.

The other thing you can do is experiment PERSONALLY so that you can show a guy what you like...that helps both of you.

 

[catzmeow]

Yet another double standard when it comes to reproduction.

Believe it or not, there are a lot of women who are annoyed by the double standard, as well.

When I had my tubes tied, it was state law in Utah that my husband had to sign a consent form in order for me to do it.

 

[dilloduck]

I like the way girls kiss and touch me. But I don't know it's just wrong. I don't know why but I feel so dirty for even doing it beside enjoying it. I was hoping we would talk about it and you could tell me why you think it's ok and I could make some sense of it and rationalize it so I didn't feel the way I do. More than just making out I like boys better. I like the power and strength of a man, I don't know hpow to describe it, it just mke sme breathless. But therewas something about the gentleness of girls that I can't get out of my mind. I don't think it's natural or right and it makes me feel a little sick at the same time but I wish boys could be... I dunno just more like girls with me at first.

It makes sense to me. A lot of it is your age. Guys your age are typically not very patient, and they tend to fumble around a lot, and be in a rush. Girls are gentler and slower. As you get older, you will find that men slow down and get gentler and more experienced, too. So, it will get better.

The other thing you can do is experiment PERSONALLY so that you can show a guy what you like...that helps both of you.

I think Amanda is probably a little too drunk from last night to appreciate that info right now.

 

[del]

Hindsight is 20/20.

Hindsight IS NOT 20/20. To wit: IF ONLY I'd have bought a PS3 instead of a Wii, I'd be happy. Would I have REALLY been happier with the PS3? Who knows?

Hindsight IS NOT 20/20.

IF ONLY I'd not said that about hindsight. Would you not have corrected me? Who knows?

Do you know who knows?

i knew, but only in hindsight

 

[Anguille]

I like the way girls kiss and touch me. But I don't know it's just wrong. I don't know why but I feel so dirty for even doing it beside enjoying it. I was hoping we would talk about it and you could tell me why you think it's ok and I could make some sense of it and rationalize it so I didn't feel the way I do. More than just making out I like boys better. I like the power and strength of a man, I don't know hpow to describe it, it just mke sme breathless. But therewas something about the gentleness of girls that I can't get out of my mind. I don't think it's natural or right and it makes me feel a little sick at the same time but I wish boys could be... I dunno just more like girls with me at first.

It makes sense to me. A lot of it is your age. Guys your age are typically not very patient, and they tend to fumble around a lot, and be in a rush. Girls are gentler and slower. As you get older, you will find that men slow down and get gentler and more experienced, too. So, it will get better.

The other thing you can do is experiment PERSONALLY so that you can show a guy what you like...that helps both of you.

I think Amanda is probably a little too drunk from last night to appreciate that info right now.

LOL! I was gonna say. I suppose if she wants to read Dear Abby, she can buy the paper.

 

[dilloduck]

It makes sense to me. A lot of it is your age. Guys your age are typically not very patient, and they tend to fumble around a lot, and be in a rush. Girls are gentler and slower. As you get older, you will find that men slow down and get gentler and more experienced, too. So, it will get better.

The other thing you can do is experiment PERSONALLY so that you can show a guy what you like...that helps both of you.

I think Amanda is probably a little too drunk from last night to appreciate that info right now.

LOL! I was gonna say. I suppose if she wants to read Dear Abby, she can buy the paper.

oh cmon---lay some wise tips out there for that poor naive 18 year old

 

[Sky Dancer]

Dear Abby,

My feet are too long,

My hair's falling out and my rights are all wrong,

Every side I get up on is the wrong side of bed,

If it werent' so expensive I'd wish I were dead.

Signed,

Unhappy

Unhappy, unhappy you have no complaint,

You are what you are and you ain't what you aint,

Some wishin' and hopin and be who you are.

Signed,

Dear Abby

 

[del]

Dear Abby,

My feet are too long,

My hair's falling out and my rights are all wrong,

Every side I get up on is the wrong side of bed,

If it werent' so expensive I'd wish I were dead.

Signed,

Unhappy

Unhappy, unhappy you have no complaint,

You are what you are and you ain't what you aint,

Some wishin' and hopin and be who you are.

Signed,

Dear Abby

john prine's attorney would like a word with you

 

[dilloduck]

Dear Abby,

My feet are too long,

My hair's falling out and my rights are all wrong,

Every side I get up on is the wrong side of bed,

If it werent' so expensive I'd wish I were dead.

Signed,

Unhappy

Unhappy, unhappy you have no complaint,

You are what you are and you ain't what you aint,

Some wishin' and hopin and be who you are.

Signed,

Dear Abby

john prine's attorney would like a word with you

I was gonna say

 

[Sky Dancer]

Thanks for reminding me of who wrote the song, or it's name. I couldn't remember. Now, please immediately ban me for a copyright violation.

Thanks,
http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/prine-john/dear-abby-10853.html

 

[catzmeow]

I think Amanda is probably a little too drunk from last night to appreciate that info right now.

Yeah, I'm cringing as I imagine her hangover.

 

[catzmeow]

Thanks for reminding me of who wrote the song, or it's name. I couldn't remember. Now, please immediately ban me for a copyright violation.

Thanks,

If you're banned, will "Arthur" still post here?

 

[catzmeow]

LOL! I was gonna say. I suppose if she wants to read Dear Abby, she can buy the paper.

Please. Dear Abby doesn't have my skills and knowledge in this realm.