About that debt ceiling. . .

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President Trump and his DOGE co-leaders of Musk and Ramaswamy the GOP Freedom Caucus are committed to eliminate as much as $2 trillion of waste, inefficiency, stupidity, duplication, corruption etc. from the federal budget and do that without cutting essential/necessary services. That won't happen on Day 1 or likely by day 300 as it will require a great deal of research, investigation, and consideration to get it done. But they are committed to do it.

Maybe they won't make the goal. But ANYTHING they can do to rein in an unfathomable, unmanageable monstrosity of federal government and turn it back into an entity that serve the people instead of demanding more and more resources to feed itself will help a great deal.

Does it really make the average American's life better for the federal government to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in a grant for somebody to study whether pigeons follow the same economic principles as people? Millions for transgender studies is Pakistan?

$518,000 to study how cocaine affects the sexual behavior of Japanese quails?
$3 million to study how various substances affect hamster fights?
$1.7 billion to maintain unused and underused federal buildings?
$1 million to print a paper copy of the Federal Register furnished daily to members of Congress every one of which could read it on line?
Over $600,000 to Stanford University to digitize its collection of tickets, photos, T-shirts, and other memorabilia donated by the band, scholars, and fans?
Almost $900,000 spent by the IRS for unused warehouse space?
$500,000 to build an IHOPs in Washington DC to provide jobs for people there.
$2.5 million for the US Census Bureau to run a Super Bowl ad?
$6 million to The National Comedy Center in Jamestown NY?

These are the kinds of 'small potatoes' things that gets tucked into other appropriations bills including the CR bill they are now trying to get passed. That is on top of the many billions of unrelated pork that Congress forces into all legislation these days.

So we have a debt ceiling. And every three to six months we hit that debt ceiling, have this huge fight in Congress that usually results in some kind of compromise but invariably includes billions and billions of unnecessary, unneeded things that have nothing to do with keeping the government going.

And the debt ceiling is ALWAYS raised!!! The debt is real but the debt ceiling is essentially an artificial thing that means nothing.

So is President Trump that much out of line by saying eliminate the debt ceiling entirely to avoid these CR fights in Congress that invariably include additional billions in pork? All he asked is for is to do away with the essentially worthless debt ceiling and thereby eliminate the opportunity for unscrupulous congress persons to stick all that non essential spending into those CR bills that have become necessary every few months.

His request in no way does away with his intention to try to cut $2 trillion of unnecessary and/or inefficient and/or ineffective and/or wasteful and sometimes corrupt spending from the federal budget.

 
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President Trump and his DOGE co-leaders of Musk and Ramaswamy the GOP Freedom Caucus are committed to eliminate as much as $2 trillion of waste, inefficiency, stupidity, duplication, corruption etc. from the federal budget and do that without cutting essential/necessary services. That won't happen on Day 1 or likely by day 300 as it will require a great deal of research, investigation, and consideration to get it done. But they are committed to do it.

Maybe they won't make the goal. But ANYTHING they can do to rein in an unfathomable, unmanageable monstrosity of federal government and turn it back into an entity that serve the people instead of demanding more and more resources to feed itself will help a great deal.

Does it really make the average American's life better for the federal government to hundreds of thousands of dollars in a grant for somebody to study whether pigeons follow the same economic principles as people? For transgender studies is Pakistan?

$518,000 to study how cocaine affects the sexual behavior of Japanese quails?
$3 million to study how various substances affect hamster fights?
$1.7 billion to maintain unused and underused federal buildings?
$i million to print a paper copy of the Federal Register furnished daily to members of Congress every one of which could read it on line?
Over $600,000 to Stanford University to digitize its collection of tickets, photos, T-shirts, and other memorabilia donated by the band, scholars, and fans?
Almost $900,000 spent by the IRS for unused warehouse space?
$500,000 to building an IHOPs in Washington DC to provide jobs for people there.
$2.5 million for the US Census Bureau to run a Super Bowl ad?
$6 million to The National Comedy Center in Jamestown NY?

These are the kinds of 'small potatoes' things that gets tucked into other appropriations bills including the CR bill they are now trying to get passed. That is on top of the many billions of unrelated pork that Congress forces into all legislation these days.

So we have a debt ceiling. And every three to six months we hit that debt ceiling, have this huge fight in Congress that usually results in some kind of compromise but invariably includes billions and billions of unnecessary, unneeded things that have nothing to do with keeping the government going.

And the debt ceiling is ALWAYS raised!!!

So is President Trump that much out of line by saying eliminate the debt ceiling entirely to avoid these CR fights in Congress that invariably include additional billions in pork? All he asked is for is to do away with the essentially worthless debt ceiling and thereby eliminate the opportunity for unscrupulous congress persons to stick all that non essential spending into those CR bills that have become necessary every few months.

His request in no way does away with his intention to try to cut $2 trillion of unnecessary wasteful and sometimes corrupt spending from the federal budget.

Then why did Trump lobby to remove the debt ceiling earlier this week?
Every single item on your list is indeed a "small potato". Won't make a blip. They are political, just and righteous wedges for the lemmings who think its time to rip the safety nets away from the vulnerable while preserving the pork for the wealthy.
There are five areas in the budget that make up the lion share of the deficit/debt. And I don't see any of those on your list.
 
Then why did Trump lobby to remove the debt ceiling earlier this week?
Every single item on your list is indeed a "small potato". Won't make a blip. They are political, just and righteous wedges for the lemmings who think its time to rip the safety nets away from the vulnerable while preserving the pork for the wealthy.
There are five areas in the budget that make up the lion share of the deficit/debt. And I don't see any of those on your list.
Read the OP. Read the OP. Read the OP.
 
We need a balanced budget amendment so that the $1.1T interest on the Debt can't go any higher.
The interest on the Debt, at current low interest rates is:
2020 $550b
2021 $550b
2022 $650b
2023 $850b
2024 $1.1T
2025 The US dollar will collapse if we don't fix the deficit.

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$518,000 to study how cocaine affects the sexual behavior of Japanese quails?
$3 million to study how various substances affect hamster fights?
$1.7 billion to maintain unused and underused federal buildings?
$i million to print a paper copy of the Federal Register furnished daily to members of Congress every one of which could read it on line?
Over $600,000 to Stanford University to digitize its collection of tickets, photos, T-shirts, and other memorabilia donated by the band, scholars, and fans?
Almost $900,000 spent by the IRS for unused warehouse space?
$500,000 to building an IHOPs in Washington DC to provide jobs for people there.
$2.5 million for the US Census Bureau to run a Super Bowl ad?
$6 million to The National Comedy Center in Jamestown NY

Here we go again……

The annual…..Look how Gubmint is wasting our money list
It is a list that mischaracterizes what the expenditures are for and what they hope to accomplish

Unless you can provide details of what each expenditure is, the list cannot be taken seriously
 
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FYI he doesn't control the Republicans nor do they control him. And that has nothing to do with the OP.
Then enlighten the class. Your OP is all over the map. What point are you trying to make here? That we don't need a debt ceiling limit?
 
President Trump and his DOGE co-leaders of Musk and Ramaswamy the GOP Freedom Caucus are committed to eliminate as much as $2 trillion of waste, inefficiency, stupidity, duplication, corruption etc. from the federal budget and do that without cutting essential/necessary services. That won't happen on Day 1 or likely by day 300 as it will require a great deal of research, investigation, and consideration to get it done. But they are committed to do it.

Maybe they won't make the goal. But ANYTHING they can do to rein in an unfathomable, unmanageable monstrosity of federal government and turn it back into an entity that serve the people instead of demanding more and more resources to feed itself will help a great deal.

Does it really make the average American's life better for the federal government to hundreds of thousands of dollars in a grant for somebody to study whether pigeons follow the same economic principles as people? For transgender studies is Pakistan?

$518,000 to study how cocaine affects the sexual behavior of Japanese quails?
$3 million to study how various substances affect hamster fights?
$1.7 billion to maintain unused and underused federal buildings?
$i million to print a paper copy of the Federal Register furnished daily to members of Congress every one of which could read it on line?
Over $600,000 to Stanford University to digitize its collection of tickets, photos, T-shirts, and other memorabilia donated by the band, scholars, and fans?
Almost $900,000 spent by the IRS for unused warehouse space?
$500,000 to building an IHOPs in Washington DC to provide jobs for people there.
$2.5 million for the US Census Bureau to run a Super Bowl ad?
$6 million to The National Comedy Center in Jamestown NY?

These are the kinds of 'small potatoes' things that gets tucked into other appropriations bills including the CR bill they are now trying to get passed. That is on top of the many billions of unrelated pork that Congress forces into all legislation these days.

So we have a debt ceiling. And every three to six months we hit that debt ceiling, have this huge fight in Congress that usually results in some kind of compromise but invariably includes billions and billions of unnecessary, unneeded things that have nothing to do with keeping the government going.

And the debt ceiling is ALWAYS raised!!!

So is President Trump that much out of line by saying eliminate the debt ceiling entirely to avoid these CR fights in Congress that invariably include additional billions in pork? All he asked is for is to do away with the essentially worthless debt ceiling and thereby eliminate the opportunity for unscrupulous congress persons to stick all that non essential spending into those CR bills that have become necessary every few months.

His request in no way does away with his intention to try to cut $2 trillion of unnecessary wasteful and sometimes corrupt spending from the federal budget.

Geez, how many times have we heard of this desire to reign in, before, with nothing to show for it? About the only that ever seemed to make headway, I am aware of is President Andrew Jackson, a Democrat that wiped it out, and President Bill Clinton, a Democrat that was only able to make headway with assistance of Newt Gingrich, then saw that progress wiped out when the Republicans won in 2000.
 
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Geez, it is still 31 days until Trump will be inaugurated and will have any kind of authority. Did you even read the OP? Did you understand any of it?

Until you give somebody a chance, to blast him for not doing it a whole month before he'll have a chance to even begin doing it is pretty indefensible don't you think?
 
Here we go again……

The annual…..Look how Gubmint is wasting our money list
It is a list that mischaracterizes what the expenditures are for and what they hope to accomplish

Unless you can provide details of what each expenditure is, the list cannot be taken seriously
Perhaps you would like to defend those expenditures I listed? Not to mention the probably trillions in wasted fund on top of that list. Until then have a pleasant day.
 
Perhaps you would like to defend those expenditures I listed? Not to mention the probably trillions in wasted fund on top of that list. Until then have a pleasant day.

OK…….lets start at the top

$518,000 to study how cocaine affects the sexual behavior of Japanese quails?

Do you think anyone cares whether Japanese Quails take cocaine and then have sex?

Cocaine is a dangerous addictive drug. Studying its impacts are important to society. I know nothing about Japanese Quails, but I am sure the study, if you bothered to post it explains why they were chosen as test subjects.
But it is easier to mischaracterize the study and call it a waste of money
 
We need a balanced budget amendment so that the $1.1T interest on the Debt can't go any higher.
The interest on the Debt, at current low interest rates is:
2020 $550b
2021 $550b
2022 $650b
2023 $850b
2024 $1.1T
2025 The US dollar will collapse if we don't fix the deficit.

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If Trump and company are successful in cutting government spending as much as they want to and that is rated a very good thing by most Americans, that balanced budget amendment might be possible.

But as long as Congress persons misuse and abuse their power in EVERY spending bill and continue to hide how much unnecessary, inefficient, ineffective, even corrupt spending they do, that amendment won't happen. Trump and his team are the first to seriously address that since Newt Gingrich and Tim Penny's reformers in the 1990's managed to give us the closest thing to a balanced budget we had seen in the 20th Century.
 
Then enlighten the class. Your OP is all over the map. What point are you trying to make here? That we don't need a debt ceiling limit?
Again if you can't understand the OP that is very much NOT all over the map, you really need that remedial reading comprehension class I recommended.
 
Yeah but Trump ain't in charge yet. Some guy named Joe is allegedly running the government (into the ground?)
 
Again if you can't understand the OP that is very much NOT all over the map, you really need that remedial reading comprehension class I recommended.
So. You have no point to your OP? Pretty much your MO.

BTW, your politically motivated "list" is bullshit. None of it would make the slightest difference.
It's just red meat for the true believers like you who really don't care about reducing the debt/deficit...you just want to be on God's side. :auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg:
 
Since 1960, Congress has raised, extended, or revised the debt limit 78 separate times, of which 49 were under Republican presidents and 29 were under Democratic presidents, according to the Department of Treasury.
 
I don't know what we're supposed to expect, with an electoral "system" that incentivizes and rewards the very worst impulses of its participants.

The top priorities on which these people act are fundraising and getting re-elected, because that's what our "system" dictates.

Until we fix this "system" with ideas like term limits and getting money out of politics, we can just keep bending over and taking it.

The American public just doesn't care enough about this. We deserve what we're getting.
 
So. You have no point to your OP? Pretty much your MO.

BTW, your politically motivated "list" is bullshit. None of it would make the slightest difference.
It's just red meat for the true believers like you who really don't care about reducing the debt/deficit...you just want to be on God's side. :auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg:
Hope you're planning a nice weekend for yourself as you seem to be unable to read or address the point of the OP. Have a lovely afternoon.
 
Cocaine is a dangerous addictive drug. Studying its impacts are important to society. I know nothing about Japanese Quails, but I am sure the study, if you bothered to post it explains why they were chosen as test subjects.
It's kinda like this......give them toot and see if they can get a hardon.

The findings and others like it [e.g., 14, 15] suggest that cocaine and similar psychostimulants may facilitate sexual conditioning and thereby contribute to a drug-facilitated increase in sexual activity.

Several people I knew conducted unscientific testing on Friday nights at the local tavern.

If Trump and company are successful in cutting government spending as much as they want to and that is rated a very good thing by most Americans, that balanced budget amendment might be possible.
Trump had asked for a debt ceiling increase in the coming year so we wouldn't get in the jackpot overspending the current limit, then wants to eliminate it.
 
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