Abortion

[P@triot]

Liberals rejoice in killing babies.

Correction.....

Liberals rejoice in the profits from killing babies.....

I rejoice in The freedom to decide for myself. People who shouldn't be having kids not having kids.

Then don't get pregnant. And if an accident happens - give it up for adoption. Plenty of options that don't include a heinous murder.

 

[P@triot]

The Evangelical right wing of the party has chased off the largest voting block in this country (women) by offending their intelligence and their integrity.

Lila Rose and her legion of followers are laughing at you right now.

 

[sealybobo]

Liberals rejoice in killing babies.

Correction.....

Liberals rejoice in the profits from killing babies.....

I rejoice in

The freedom to decide for myself.

People who shouldn't be having kids not having kids.

Liberals rejoice in killing babies.

Correction.....

Liberals rejoice in the profits from killing babies.....

I rejoice in The freedom to decide for myself. People who shouldn't be having kids not having kids.

Then don't get pregnant. And if an accident happens - give it up for adoption. Plenty of options that don't include a heinous murder.

Abortion is an appropriate legal option that should always be an option.

It's not murder. But I know you and trump would make it illegal.

 

[P@triot]

And of course we can't forget about Mr. Talent on Loan from Gaaawwdd--d that just had to put his two cents in, on the cost of birth control pills.

Rush Limbaugh went into a 30 minute rant over the cost of birth control pills, and ended up calling a woman a slut on his national program in 2012 prior to the election. He immediately elevated a woman (we would have never heard about) to National media attention. She even ended up giving a speech at the Democrat National Convention. The DNC also put out advertisements with her the star of the ad.

And? An absolute nobody got up and spoke at the Democrat National Convention. Woooooo... A person that nobody cares about spoke at a convention nobody cares about.

How did Sandra Fluke being the face of the party work out for the Democrats? Oh that's right - they got slaughtered.

 

[P@triot]

Then don't get pregnant. And if an accident happens - give it up for adoption. Plenty of options that don't include a heinous murder.

It's not murder. But I know you and trump would make it illegal.

It's not? Then perhaps you could help me to understand this? I'm just a lowly conservative. I'm not one of highly "enlightened" liberals so perhaps you would be kind enough to assist me here... You see - here are two people charged with murder (one of which who utilized the legally approved, FDA approved method for abortions).

Scott Peterson was charged with a double homicide. One for Lacy Peterson and one for the baby in her womb.

Scott Peterson Trial Fast Facts - CNN.com

And John Welden was charged with murder when he slipped his girlfriend an abortion pill that terminated her pregnancy:

Man tricks pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion pill - CNN.com

Oops...

 

[P@triot]

I rejoice in The freedom to decide for myself. People who shouldn't be having kids not having kids.

Is there a reason you don't rejoice in a child's freedom to choose for themself?

 

[Clementine]

Hillary's husband paraded his usual victims out on the stage when he vetoed the bill that would have outlawed so-called late term or partial birth abortion. The women claimed that a medical condition caused them to opt for partial birth abortion and it saved their lives but there is no medical reason that could possibly justify turning a full term baby in the womb, in what has to be a painful procedure itself, to cause a breach birth. There is no medical reason in the world that justifies stabbing a full term baby in the back of the head and sucking it's brain out with a frankenstein machine. In a civilized society a woman who is having medical problems severe enough in the late term of pregnancy would opt for a cesarian procedure or drugs that would induce delivery and they would try to save the baby. The partial birth abortion procedure is designed specifically to "legally" kill a full term unborn baby. Once society faces that fact it would end the horrific procedure....maybe.

I have tried explaining this to the left to no avail. Partial birth abortion just extends the delivery because they have to stop and kill the baby before it's completely out of the womb. That just increases the danger to the mother. There have been medical people who saw one partial birth abortion and could never help with one again because it was too disturbing. C-sections are generally done when there is a problem or inducing labor. They worry about the mother first, but do try to save the baby. Only reason for late term is to kill baby. Period.

The left is all about population control. That means they want abortion pills readily available and then if the woman doesn't want an abortion immediately, they want plenty of time to talk her into it. They want all bases covered so they have more opportunity to prevent babies from being born. On the other end of life, Obamacare is apt to approve pain meds in lieu of treatment to ensure the elderly make as hasty an exit as possible.

Population control is the goal. The name, Planned Parenthood, belies it's true function, as is typical with liberal organizations.

It's just easy to convince people that they are about freedom of choice. As long as you choose what they want, it's all good. Try to choose to keep more of your earnings or practice Christianity, even in your own business, and you'll find that they do not believe in freedom at all.

 

[P@triot]

Hillary's husband paraded his usual victims out on the stage when he vetoed the bill that would have outlawed so-called late term or partial birth abortion. The women claimed that a medical condition caused them to opt for partial birth abortion and it saved their lives but there is no medical reason that could possibly justify turning a full term baby in the womb, in what has to be a painful procedure itself, to cause a breach birth. There is no medical reason in the world that justifies stabbing a full term baby in the back of the head and sucking it's brain out with a frankenstein machine. In a civilized society a woman who is having medical problems severe enough in the late term of pregnancy would opt for a cesarian procedure or drugs that would induce delivery and they would try to save the baby. The partial birth abortion procedure is designed specifically to "legally" kill a full term unborn baby. Once society faces that fact it would end the horrific procedure....maybe.

I have tried explaining this to the left to no avail. Partial birth abortion just extends the delivery because they have to stop and kill the baby before it's completely out of the womb. That just increases the danger to the mother. There have been medical people who saw one partial birth abortion and could never help with one again because it was too disturbing. C-sections are generally done when there is a problem or inducing labor. They worry about the mother first, but do try to save the baby. Only reason for late term is to kill baby. Period.

The left is all about population control. That means they want abortion pills readily available and then if the woman doesn't want an abortion immediately, they want plenty of time to talk her into it. They want all bases covered so they have more opportunity to prevent babies from being born. On the other end of life, Obamacare is apt to approve pain meds in lieu of treatment to ensure the elderly make as hasty an exit as possible.

Population control is the goal. The name, Planned Parenthood, belies it's true function, as is typical with liberal organizations.

It's just easy to convince people that they are about freedom of choice. As long as you choose what they want, it's all good. Try to choose to keep more of your earnings or practice Christianity, even in your own business, and you'll find that they do not believe in freedom at all.

 

[sealybobo]

Then don't get pregnant. And if an accident happens - give it up for adoption. Plenty of options that don't include a heinous murder.

It's not murder. But I know you and trump would make it illegal.

It's not? Then perhaps you could help me to understand this? I'm just a lowly conservative. I'm not one of highly "enlightened" liberals so perhaps you would be kind enough to assist me here... You see - here are two people charged with murder (one of which who utilized the legally approved, FDA approved method for abortions).

Scott Peterson was charged with a double homicide. One for Lacy Peterson and one for the baby in her womb.

Scott Peterson Trial Fast Facts - CNN.com

And John Welden was charged with murder when he slipped his girlfriend an abortion pill that terminated her pregnancy:

Man tricks pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion pill - CNN.com

Oops...

God doesn't murder babies, does he?

God sometimes causes abortions by cursing unfaithful wives.

The Bible places no value on fetuses or infants less than one month old.



And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. -- Leviticus 27:6


Fetuses and infants less than one month old are not considered persons.


Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them. And Moses numbered them according to the word of the LORD. -- Numbers 3:15-16


Republicans want to make women who get abortions also purchase funerals and cemetary plots. You guys are sick and wrong. Beyelzebob

 

[sealybobo]

I rejoice in The freedom to decide for myself. People who shouldn't be having kids not having kids.

Is there a reason you don't rejoice in a child's freedom to choose for themself?

Not a child a fetus.

 

[owebo]

Then don't get pregnant. And if an accident happens - give it up for adoption. Plenty of options that don't include a heinous murder.

It's not murder. But I know you and trump would make it illegal.

It's not? Then perhaps you could help me to understand this? I'm just a lowly conservative. I'm not one of highly "enlightened" liberals so perhaps you would be kind enough to assist me here... You see - here are two people charged with murder (one of which who utilized the legally approved, FDA approved method for abortions).

Scott Peterson was charged with a double homicide. One for Lacy Peterson and one for the baby in her womb.

Scott Peterson Trial Fast Facts - CNN.com

And John Welden was charged with murder when he slipped his girlfriend an abortion pill that terminated her pregnancy:

Man tricks pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion pill - CNN.com

Oops...

God doesn't murder babies, does he?

God sometimes causes abortions by cursing unfaithful wives.

The Bible places no value on fetuses or infants less than one month old.



And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. -- Leviticus 27:6


Fetuses and infants less than one month old are not considered persons.


Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them. And Moses numbered them according to the word of the LORD. -- Numbers 3:15-16


Republicans want to make women who get abortions also purchase funerals and cemetary plots. You guys are sick and wrong. Beyelzebob

Liberals do...you ashamed?

 

[owebo]

I rejoice in The freedom to decide for myself. People who shouldn't be having kids not having kids.

Is there a reason you don't rejoice in a child's freedom to choose for themself?

Not a child a fetus.

So it will be what? A horse?

 

[Dana7360]

You republicans are all pro death penalty . You lose the moral high ground !

That's insanely irrational. That's like saying "liberals agree that rapists should go to prison so they have no right to expect freedom for themselves".

Someone receiving the death penalty committed a heinous crime you buffoon. They are receiving a punishment. A baby is both innocent and harmless. It's as completely different in believing a rapist should go to prison while a law abiding citizen deserves freedom.

You conservatives and your big government nanny parent complex is getting out of control.

Prison is for rehabilitation, if the person can be rehabilitated or it's to remove a very dangerous person from the streets of our nation so they won't harm anyone else.

The government's job isn't to be our parents and punish us when we're bad.

 

[Dana7360]

It comes as no surprise, of course, that conservatives seek only to increase the size and authority of government at the expense of individual liberty: more government, more government intruding into our personal lives.

The authoritarian right advocates compelling women to give birth against their will through force of law in violation of the 14th Amendment, but they do nothing to pursue actual solutions to the problem of abortion.

Everyone is pro-life, everyone wishes to end the practice of abortion, in this regard there is no conflict or disagreement.

The conflict and disagreement manifest when conservatives facilitate ‘solutions’ to ‘end’ abortion that fail to comport with the Constitution and its case law.

Clearly you have no idea what the 14th Amendment states as it is the exact opposite of your idiotic interpretation.

The 14th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified on July 9, 1868, and granted citizenship to “all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” which included former slaves recently freed. In addition, it forbids states from denying any person "life, liberty or property, without due process of law" or to "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” By directly mentioning the role of the states, the 14th Amendment greatly expanded the protection of civil rights to all Americans and is cited in more litigation than any other amendment.

You just affirmed the baby's right to life and the unconstitutionality of Roe vs. Wade.

You need to actually read and comprehend what you just posted.

It clearly says anyone BORN or naturalized in the United States.

A fetus isn't born or naturalized while it's still inside the woman's body.

Therefore your argument is worthless and you shows you don't understand the meaning of words in the english language.

I do and so do most intelligent people.

You, not so much.

 

[owebo]

It comes as no surprise, of course, that conservatives seek only to increase the size and authority of government at the expense of individual liberty: more government, more government intruding into our personal lives.

The authoritarian right advocates compelling women to give birth against their will through force of law in violation of the 14th Amendment, but they do nothing to pursue actual solutions to the problem of abortion.

Everyone is pro-life, everyone wishes to end the practice of abortion, in this regard there is no conflict or disagreement.

The conflict and disagreement manifest when conservatives facilitate ‘solutions’ to ‘end’ abortion that fail to comport with the Constitution and its case law.

Clearly you have no idea what the 14th Amendment states as it is the exact opposite of your idiotic interpretation.

The 14th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified on July 9, 1868, and granted citizenship to “all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” which included former slaves recently freed. In addition, it forbids states from denying any person "life, liberty or property, without due process of law" or to "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” By directly mentioning the role of the states, the 14th Amendment greatly expanded the protection of civil rights to all Americans and is cited in more litigation than any other amendment.

You just affirmed the baby's right to life and the unconstitutionality of Roe vs. Wade.

You need to actually read and comprehend what you just posted.

It clearly says anyone BORN or naturalized in the United States.

A fetus isn't born or naturalized while it's still inside the woman's body.

Therefore your argument is worthless and you shows you don't understand the meaning of words in the english language.

I do and so do most intelligent people.

You, not so much.

You mean the baby?

 

[NYcarbineer]

I rejoice in The freedom to decide for myself. People who shouldn't be having kids not having kids.

Is there a reason you don't rejoice in a child's freedom to choose for themself?

Not a child a fetus.

So it will be what? A horse?

Apparently a horse's ass in some cases.

 

[owebo]

I rejoice in The freedom to decide for myself. People who shouldn't be having kids not having kids.

Is there a reason you don't rejoice in a child's freedom to choose for themself?

Not a child a fetus.

So it will be what? A horse?

Apparently a horse's ass in some cases.

Really, so the baby will be a horse?

 

[P@triot]

Then don't get pregnant. And if an accident happens - give it up for adoption. Plenty of options that don't include a heinous murder.

It's not murder. But I know you and trump would make it illegal.

It's not? Then perhaps you could help me to understand this? I'm just a lowly conservative. I'm not one of highly "enlightened" liberals so perhaps you would be kind enough to assist me here... You see - here are two people charged with murder (one of which who utilized the legally approved, FDA approved method for abortions).

Scott Peterson was charged with a double homicide. One for Lacy Peterson and one for the baby in her womb.

Scott Peterson Trial Fast Facts - CNN.com

And John Welden was charged with murder when he slipped his girlfriend an abortion pill that terminated her pregnancy:

Man tricks pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion pill - CNN.com

Oops...

God doesn't murder babies, does he? God sometimes causes abortions by cursing unfaithful wives. The Bible places no value on fetuses or infants less than one month old. And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. -- Leviticus 27:6


Fetuses and infants less than one month old are not considered persons.

Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them. And Moses numbered them according to the word of the LORD. -- Numbers 3:15-16

Republicans want to make women who get abortions also purchase funerals and cemetary plots. You guys are sick and wrong. Beyelzebob

I have to say.....that was one of the more bizarre rants I've seen on USMB. It's almost as if you are paralyzed with fear by the facts and my simple question.

So I will ask it again - if a fetus is not a person, how is it that people have been charged with murder for killing the fetus?

 

[P@triot]

I rejoice in The freedom to decide for myself. People who shouldn't be having kids not having kids.

Is there a reason you don't rejoice in a child's freedom to choose for themself?

Not a child a fetus.

Is there a reason you don't rejoice in a fetus's freedom to choose for themself?

 

[P@triot]

I rejoice in The freedom to decide for myself. People who shouldn't be having kids not having kids.

Is there a reason you don't rejoice in a child's freedom to choose for themself?

Not a child a fetus.

So it will be what? A horse?

Apparently a horse's ass in some cases.

Really, so the baby will be a horse?

I love when libtards come to the realization that they can't answer that simple question