Abortion

[SmokeALib]

These libtards love killing unborn babies. And here I thought you were supposed to be a compassionate bunch.

But babies tase good. It's too bad that is not what is aborted.

Tell that to the supreme court - who nine years ago declared "late term" abortions illegal. So even they believe the fetus in the womb is a human being.
You, on the other hand, should feel fortunate that your mother decided not to slaughter your libtard, brainwashed ass.

 

[owebo]

According to a study by the Guttmacher Institute, "Almost three-quarters of women obtaining abortions in 2008 reported a religious affiliation. The largest proportion were Protestant (37 percent), and most of the rest said that they were Catholic (28 percent) or that they had no religious affiliation (27 percent). One in five abortion patients identified themselves as born-again, evangelical, charismatic or fundamentalist; 75 percent of these were Protestant.”

This is why abortion will not be overturned in the US. It is because many so called "Christians" have no moral fiber and view their faith as nothing more as a convenience, not a commitment.

Murder is murder...

 

[Votto]

According to a study by the Guttmacher Institute, "Almost three-quarters of women obtaining abortions in 2008 reported a religious affiliation. The largest proportion were Protestant (37 percent), and most of the rest said that they were Catholic (28 percent) or that they had no religious affiliation (27 percent). One in five abortion patients identified themselves as born-again, evangelical, charismatic or fundamentalist; 75 percent of these were Protestant.”

This is why abortion will not be overturned in the US. It is because many so called "Christians" have no moral fiber and view their faith as nothing more as a convenience, not a commitment.

Murder is murder...

If indeed abortion is murder and there is a just God, America is about to be judged.

(Enters Trump and Hillary)

 

[Dana7360]

It comes as no surprise, of course, that conservatives seek only to increase the size and authority of government at the expense of individual liberty: more government, more government intruding into our personal lives.

The authoritarian right advocates compelling women to give birth against their will through force of law in violation of the 14th Amendment, but they do nothing to pursue actual solutions to the problem of abortion.

Everyone is pro-life, everyone wishes to end the practice of abortion, in this regard there is no conflict or disagreement.

The conflict and disagreement manifest when conservatives facilitate ‘solutions’ to ‘end’ abortion that fail to comport with the Constitution and its case law.

Clearly you have no idea what the 14th Amendment states as it is the exact opposite of your idiotic interpretation.

The 14th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified on July 9, 1868, and granted citizenship to “all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” which included former slaves recently freed. In addition, it forbids states from denying any person "life, liberty or property, without due process of law" or to "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” By directly mentioning the role of the states, the 14th Amendment greatly expanded the protection of civil rights to all Americans and is cited in more litigation than any other amendment.

You just affirmed the baby's right to life and the unconstitutionality of Roe vs. Wade.

You need to actually read and comprehend what you just posted. It clearly says anyone BORN or naturalized in the United States. A fetus isn't born or naturalized while it's still inside the woman's body. Therefore your argument is worthless and you shows you don't understand the meaning of words in the english language. I do and so do most intelligent people. You, not so much.

You're reading comprehension is either that of a kindergartener or you're a typical disingenuous liberal. There are multiple clauses in the 14th Amendment. That's why it says "in addition". The first clause - the one you cited - is regarding citizenship. It then shifts gears. "In addition, it forbids states from denying any person life...."

That was an epic fail on your part. Weak. Very weak. You have to do better than that.

Your problem is that it's not a legal person when it's inside the woman's body.

Which is why you people keep trying to pass those unconstitutional and stupid personhood bills.

The laws aren't on your side in this.

The 14th amendment doesn't apply to a zygote or blastocyst or an embryo or a fetus because our LAWS rightly don't recognize that it's a person.

If it was, it would have a birth certificate, a social security number. It would breathe air through it's nose, eat food through it's mouth, walk around, make sound, and all the other things actual people do and a clump of cells in a uterus can't do.

It doesn't even have a brain, a heart, central nervous system, no arms or legs. No face or anything that resembles a human being.

You can argue with unsubstantiated facts all you want but you will never be correct with the law. And guess what?

What you think or want doesn't matter to our legal system.

What does matter is the law and it's not on your side because you choose to lie about what is or isn't a living person.

 

[owebo]

It comes as no surprise, of course, that conservatives seek only to increase the size and authority of government at the expense of individual liberty: more government, more government intruding into our personal lives.

The authoritarian right advocates compelling women to give birth against their will through force of law in violation of the 14th Amendment, but they do nothing to pursue actual solutions to the problem of abortion.

Everyone is pro-life, everyone wishes to end the practice of abortion, in this regard there is no conflict or disagreement.

The conflict and disagreement manifest when conservatives facilitate ‘solutions’ to ‘end’ abortion that fail to comport with the Constitution and its case law.

Clearly you have no idea what the 14th Amendment states as it is the exact opposite of your idiotic interpretation.

The 14th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified on July 9, 1868, and granted citizenship to “all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” which included former slaves recently freed. In addition, it forbids states from denying any person "life, liberty or property, without due process of law" or to "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” By directly mentioning the role of the states, the 14th Amendment greatly expanded the protection of civil rights to all Americans and is cited in more litigation than any other amendment.

You just affirmed the baby's right to life and the unconstitutionality of Roe vs. Wade.

You need to actually read and comprehend what you just posted. It clearly says anyone BORN or naturalized in the United States. A fetus isn't born or naturalized while it's still inside the woman's body. Therefore your argument is worthless and you shows you don't understand the meaning of words in the english language. I do and so do most intelligent people. You, not so much.

You're reading comprehension is either that of a kindergartener or you're a typical disingenuous liberal. There are multiple clauses in the 14th Amendment. That's why it says "in addition". The first clause - the one you cited - is regarding citizenship. It then shifts gears. "In addition, it forbids states from denying any person life...."

That was an epic fail on your part. Weak. Very weak. You have to do better than that.

Your problem is that it's not a legal person when it's inside the woman's body.

Which is why you people keep trying to pass those unconstitutional and stupid personhood bills.

The laws aren't on your side in this.

The 14th amendment doesn't apply to a zygote or blastocyst or an embryo or a fetus because our LAWS rightly don't recognize that it's a person.

If it was, it would have a birth certificate, a social security number. It would breathe air through it's nose, eat food through it's mouth, walk around, make sound, and all the other things actual people do and a clump of cells in a uterus can't do.

It doesn't even have a brain, a heart, central nervous system, no arms or legs. No face or anything that resembles a human being.

You can argue with unsubstantiated facts all you want but you will never be correct with the law. And guess what?

What you think or want doesn't matter to our legal system.

What does matter is the law and it's not on your side because you choose to lie about what is or isn't a living person.

So you're admitting the baby is a person....

 

[NYcarbineer]

It comes as no surprise, of course, that conservatives seek only to increase the size and authority of government at the expense of individual liberty: more government, more government intruding into our personal lives.

The authoritarian right advocates compelling women to give birth against their will through force of law in violation of the 14th Amendment, but they do nothing to pursue actual solutions to the problem of abortion.

Everyone is pro-life, everyone wishes to end the practice of abortion, in this regard there is no conflict or disagreement.

The conflict and disagreement manifest when conservatives facilitate ‘solutions’ to ‘end’ abortion that fail to comport with the Constitution and its case law.

Clearly you have no idea what the 14th Amendment states as it is the exact opposite of your idiotic interpretation.

The 14th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified on July 9, 1868, and granted citizenship to “all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” which included former slaves recently freed. In addition, it forbids states from denying any person "life, liberty or property, without due process of law" or to "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” By directly mentioning the role of the states, the 14th Amendment greatly expanded the protection of civil rights to all Americans and is cited in more litigation than any other amendment.

You just affirmed the baby's right to life and the unconstitutionality of Roe vs. Wade.

You need to actually read and comprehend what you just posted. It clearly says anyone BORN or naturalized in the United States. A fetus isn't born or naturalized while it's still inside the woman's body. Therefore your argument is worthless and you shows you don't understand the meaning of words in the english language. I do and so do most intelligent people. You, not so much.

You're reading comprehension is either that of a kindergartener or you're a typical disingenuous liberal. There are multiple clauses in the 14th Amendment. That's why it says "in addition". The first clause - the one you cited - is regarding citizenship. It then shifts gears. "In addition, it forbids states from denying any person life...."

That was an epic fail on your part. Weak. Very weak. You have to do better than that.

Your problem is that it's not a legal person when it's inside the woman's body.

Which is why you people keep trying to pass those unconstitutional and stupid personhood bills.

The laws aren't on your side in this.

The 14th amendment doesn't apply to a zygote or blastocyst or an embryo or a fetus because our LAWS rightly don't recognize that it's a person.

If it was, it would have a birth certificate, a social security number. It would breathe air through it's nose, eat food through it's mouth, walk around, make sound, and all the other things actual people do and a clump of cells in a uterus can't do.

It doesn't even have a brain, a heart, central nervous system, no arms or legs. No face or anything that resembles a human being.

You can argue with unsubstantiated facts all you want but you will never be correct with the law. And guess what?

What you think or want doesn't matter to our legal system.

What does matter is the law and it's not on your side because you choose to lie about what is or isn't a living person.

So you're admitting the baby is a person....

When are you going to claim that? You think the fetus is something other than a person, because you don't want to prosecute the woman who aborts it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

According to a study by the Guttmacher Institute, "Almost three-quarters of women obtaining abortions in 2008 reported a religious affiliation. The largest proportion were Protestant (37 percent), and most of the rest said that they were Catholic (28 percent) or that they had no religious affiliation (27 percent). One in five abortion patients identified themselves as born-again, evangelical, charismatic or fundamentalist; 75 percent of these were Protestant.”

This is why abortion will not be overturned in the US. It is because many so called "Christians" have no moral fiber and view their faith as nothing more as a convenience, not a commitment.

Murder is murder...

So life in prison would be an appropriate punishment for a woman who has an abortion?

 

[owebo]

According to a study by the Guttmacher Institute, "Almost three-quarters of women obtaining abortions in 2008 reported a religious affiliation. The largest proportion were Protestant (37 percent), and most of the rest said that they were Catholic (28 percent) or that they had no religious affiliation (27 percent). One in five abortion patients identified themselves as born-again, evangelical, charismatic or fundamentalist; 75 percent of these were Protestant.”

This is why abortion will not be overturned in the US. It is because many so called "Christians" have no moral fiber and view their faith as nothing more as a convenience, not a commitment.

Murder is murder...

So life in prison would be an appropriate punishment for a woman who has an abortion?

Or the death penalty....depends on the state...

 

[Votto]

According to a study by the Guttmacher Institute, "Almost three-quarters of women obtaining abortions in 2008 reported a religious affiliation. The largest proportion were Protestant (37 percent), and most of the rest said that they were Catholic (28 percent) or that they had no religious affiliation (27 percent). One in five abortion patients identified themselves as born-again, evangelical, charismatic or fundamentalist; 75 percent of these were Protestant.”

This is why abortion will not be overturned in the US. It is because many so called "Christians" have no moral fiber and view their faith as nothing more as a convenience, not a commitment.

Murder is murder...

So life in prison would be an appropriate punishment for a woman who has an abortion?

Here is a story of a woman getting a life term for killing her baby as soon as it was born.

Ex-student gets life term for killing baby at sorority house | Fox News

So how is abortion any different?

But relax, most Americans have blindly accepted that the unborn seconds before birth is not as human as the baby passing out of the birth canal. Even those who say they are against abortion will vote for abortionists.

 

[owebo]

Clearly you have no idea what the 14th Amendment states as it is the exact opposite of your idiotic interpretation.

The 14th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified on July 9, 1868, and granted citizenship to “all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” which included former slaves recently freed. In addition, it forbids states from denying any person "life, liberty or property, without due process of law" or to "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” By directly mentioning the role of the states, the 14th Amendment greatly expanded the protection of civil rights to all Americans and is cited in more litigation than any other amendment.

You just affirmed the baby's right to life and the unconstitutionality of Roe vs. Wade.

You need to actually read and comprehend what you just posted. It clearly says anyone BORN or naturalized in the United States. A fetus isn't born or naturalized while it's still inside the woman's body. Therefore your argument is worthless and you shows you don't understand the meaning of words in the english language. I do and so do most intelligent people. You, not so much.

You're reading comprehension is either that of a kindergartener or you're a typical disingenuous liberal. There are multiple clauses in the 14th Amendment. That's why it says "in addition". The first clause - the one you cited - is regarding citizenship. It then shifts gears. "In addition, it forbids states from denying any person life...."

That was an epic fail on your part. Weak. Very weak. You have to do better than that.

Your problem is that it's not a legal person when it's inside the woman's body.

Which is why you people keep trying to pass those unconstitutional and stupid personhood bills.

The laws aren't on your side in this.

The 14th amendment doesn't apply to a zygote or blastocyst or an embryo or a fetus because our LAWS rightly don't recognize that it's a person.

If it was, it would have a birth certificate, a social security number. It would breathe air through it's nose, eat food through it's mouth, walk around, make sound, and all the other things actual people do and a clump of cells in a uterus can't do.

It doesn't even have a brain, a heart, central nervous system, no arms or legs. No face or anything that resembles a human being.

You can argue with unsubstantiated facts all you want but you will never be correct with the law. And guess what?

What you think or want doesn't matter to our legal system.

What does matter is the law and it's not on your side because you choose to lie about what is or isn't a living person.

So you're admitting the baby is a person....

When are you going to claim that? You think the fetus is something other than a person, because you don't want to prosecute the woman who aborts it.

No.

 

[Dana7360]

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Do you know that the t is redundant in your name? Your name should be p@riot. That would have been much more clever.

Better question would be why don't I kill you?

Well I'm not the one who claims that life isn't precious. You are. If your life isn't precious and you feel we're over populated, why do you refuse to be part of the solution? Are you selfish? If so - your actions prove that you feel life (at the very least - your life) is precious. Otherwise you would absolutely kill yourself.

Typical liberal. Can't put their money where the mouth is - contradicts their own position.

Are you really saying every woman who gets an abortion is a murderer? We have a lot of murderers in America. I didn't realize. But a lot of them seem to move on and even later go on to be great parents to kids they have when they are ready.

How are all these murderers living among us? It's scary. I used to be afraid of black men but now I realize women are the murderers. We need more prisons. If a fetus is life we need to save them! Retards

Are you saying the baby is not alive? What is it then? An Amstel light bottle?

The fetus is living tissue that a woman might rightfully choose to have removed.

The fetus has no constitutional protection as a person, and no chance of getting it.

Actually it's your definition of fetus that's wrong.

I looked up the Latin definition of that word and it doesn't even refer to a human in Latin. It's a word that is used in regard to plants and fruit:

Latin Definition for: fetus, fetus (ID: 20561) - Latin Dictionary and Grammar Resources - Latdict


The fact that you're very unintelligent isn't the only reason why you don't know the real meaning of that word.

The main reason is because you don't speak that language. Nor does anyone else.

Here in America English is the language that's used. Which I believe is something you conservatives scream about. You insist that EVERYONE speaks that language. Not the language from another nation.

Here in America the word fetus has nothing to do with plants or food. It has everything to do with a specific stage of the gestational process.

Since you have no clue what that word actually means here in America I'll give you a link to the definition.

Fetus | Definition of Fetus by Merriam-Webster

You can't redefine the meaning of words. They really do have meaning and when you use it incorrectly, you only end up making a fool of yourself to all of us who are intelligent and actually know the meaning of words in the English language.

 

[Dana7360]

It comes as no surprise, of course, that conservatives seek only to increase the size and authority of government at the expense of individual liberty: more government, more government intruding into our personal lives.

The authoritarian right advocates compelling women to give birth against their will through force of law in violation of the 14th Amendment, but they do nothing to pursue actual solutions to the problem of abortion.

Everyone is pro-life, everyone wishes to end the practice of abortion, in this regard there is no conflict or disagreement.

The conflict and disagreement manifest when conservatives facilitate ‘solutions’ to ‘end’ abortion that fail to comport with the Constitution and its case law.

Clearly you have no idea what the 14th Amendment states as it is the exact opposite of your idiotic interpretation.

The 14th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified on July 9, 1868, and granted citizenship to “all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” which included former slaves recently freed. In addition, it forbids states from denying any person "life, liberty or property, without due process of law" or to "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” By directly mentioning the role of the states, the 14th Amendment greatly expanded the protection of civil rights to all Americans and is cited in more litigation than any other amendment.

You just affirmed the baby's right to life and the unconstitutionality of Roe vs. Wade.

You need to actually read and comprehend what you just posted. It clearly says anyone BORN or naturalized in the United States. A fetus isn't born or naturalized while it's still inside the woman's body. Therefore your argument is worthless and you shows you don't understand the meaning of words in the english language. I do and so do most intelligent people. You, not so much.

You're reading comprehension is either that of a kindergartener or you're a typical disingenuous liberal. There are multiple clauses in the 14th Amendment. That's why it says "in addition". The first clause - the one you cited - is regarding citizenship. It then shifts gears. "In addition, it forbids states from denying any person life...."

That was an epic fail on your part. Weak. Very weak. You have to do better than that.

Your problem is that it's not a legal person when it's inside the woman's body.

Which is why you people keep trying to pass those unconstitutional and stupid personhood bills.

The laws aren't on your side in this.

The 14th amendment doesn't apply to a zygote or blastocyst or an embryo or a fetus because our LAWS rightly don't recognize that it's a person.

If it was, it would have a birth certificate, a social security number. It would breathe air through it's nose, eat food through it's mouth, walk around, make sound, and all the other things actual people do and a clump of cells in a uterus can't do.

It doesn't even have a brain, a heart, central nervous system, no arms or legs. No face or anything that resembles a human being.

You can argue with unsubstantiated facts all you want but you will never be correct with the law. And guess what?

What you think or want doesn't matter to our legal system.

What does matter is the law and it's not on your side because you choose to lie about what is or isn't a living person.

So you're admitting the baby is a person....

No I'm not admitting a fetus or a zygote or an embryo or a blastocyst is a person.

It's not a person until it's born. Which is why we have different words to define the gestational process.

Notice women who carry a pregnancy to term don't say they have a baby. They say they're going to have a baby. Which the two things are different. She's saying she will have a baby 9 months later when it's born. She's not saying she has a baby right now while she's pregnant.

However if you want to go by your definition:
Is someone who is dead a person?

My mom died last year. Did she stop being a person because she was no longer alive?

 

[BluesLegend]

Liberals rejoice in killing babies.

Really? And you know for a fact and can prove that no republican women have abortion?

If you can't PROVE what I said above, **** off.

You abortion loving baby killers just don't like being called out on this.

 

[sealybobo]

Are you really saying every woman who gets an abortion is a murderer?

What do you call someone who takes a life?

How many people do you know refer to their born child as their 'fetus'?

They are hopeful. If they miscarriage how many of them say they had a child but it died? Where is the tombstone? How much did the funeral cost? Did the government give you $ for the funeral?

 

[P@triot]

They are hopeful. If they miscarriage how many of them say they had a child but it died? Where is the tombstone? How much did the funeral cost?

Um.....pretty much 100% of them. I've never met a woman yet who did not say "I lost a child" if they miscarried. What world do you live in???

 

[P@triot]

You can't redefine the meaning of words. They really do have meaning and when you use it incorrectly, you only end up making a fool of yourself to all of us who are intelligent and actually know the meaning of words in the English language.

That is astounding coming from liberals who have tried to strip meaning from words for about 100 years now. Like when they tell us that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" means that only a member of a militia may carry a firearm.

Or like when they ignorantly claim that "the General Welfare" means that the federal government has unlimited power to do what they want when in fact the founders were extremely clear that the general welfare clause explicitly applied to the 18 enumerated powers delegated to the federal government in the U.S. Constitution and nothing beyond that.

Just yet another example of a liberal contradicting themselves...

 

[P@triot]

No I'm not admitting a fetus or a zygote or an embryo or a blastocyst is a person. It's not a person until it's born. Which is why we have different words to define the gestational process.

So logically you would agree then that the law was violated in a major way and people like Scott Peterson and John Welden were brought up on insane charges of murder for destroying a fetus? I'd say "kill" - but if something is not alive - it can't be killed, now can it?

 

[P@triot]

Women perceive the Republican party as being oppressive to them, and they won't vote for anyone that doesn't believe their lives are worth saving.

It was women who ran from the GOP and handed Barack Obama a 2nd term and it was because you made your platform about a 45 year ago U.S. Supreme Court already decided decision, (something no politician or President can change anyway) and you ran with it.

You're getting your ass kicked on this one Oreo. All these women aren't "running from the GOP" they are running for the GOP to throw the Dumbocrats out of office and end the liberal war on women.

We appreciate you war on women keeping all the ladies voting conservative!

3 Women Fight Obama’s Bathroom Mandate

 

[oreo]

Women perceive the Republican party as being oppressive to them, and they won't vote for anyone that doesn't believe their lives are worth saving.

It was women who ran from the GOP and handed Barack Obama a 2nd term and it was because you made your platform about a 45 year ago U.S. Supreme Court already decided decision, (something no politician or President can change anyway) and you ran with it.

You're getting your ass kicked on this one Oreo. All these women aren't "running from the GOP" they are running for the GOP to throw the Dumbocrats out of office and end the liberal war on women.

We appreciate you war on women keeping all the ladies voting conservative!

3 Women Fight Obama’s Bathroom Mandate

So now you've gone into bathrooms--and you think the bathroom issue somehow rolls over to support for Reich wing abortion extremism.

Well the stats are against you.
Gender Gap in 2012 Vote Is Largest in Gallup's History
Why Romney Lost And Republicans Keep Losing
The GOP's woman problem goes beyond Trump

"And if another Republican man says anything about rape other than it is a horrific, violent crime, I want to personally cut out his tongue. The college-age daughters of many of my friends voted for Obama because they were completely turned off by Neanderthal comments like the suggestion of “legitimate rape.”
Karen Hughes 2012--adviser to G.W. Bush

Again this is what turning an already settled, 45 year old U.S. Supreme Court decision into politics did for the Republican party in 2012.

And it appears that the 2016 baby parts video, and the right wing attack on Planned Parenthood has also backfired on the Republican Party.
A Year After 'Baby Parts' Videos, Planned Parenthood Is Taking Its Victory Lap

 

[P@triot]

Women perceive the Republican party as being oppressive to them, and they won't vote for anyone that doesn't believe their lives are worth saving.

It was women who ran from the GOP and handed Barack Obama a 2nd term and it was because you made your platform about a 45 year ago U.S. Supreme Court already decided decision, (something no politician or President can change anyway) and you ran with it.

You're getting your ass kicked on this one Oreo. All these women aren't "running from the GOP" they are running for the GOP to throw the Dumbocrats out of office and end the liberal war on women.

We appreciate you war on women keeping all the ladies voting conservative!

3 Women Fight Obama’s Bathroom Mandate

So now you've gone into bathrooms--and you think the bathroom issue somehow rolls over to support for Reich wing abortion extremism.

Not at all. The bathroom issue simply illustrates your absurd comments that women are running away from the Republican Party. I've provided multiple links now that shows the exact opposite. Intelligent and decent women are running like hell from the Dumbocrat Party. The party that cheats on their wives 24x7 (JFK, Bill Clinton, etc.), facilitates them becoming victims in public facilities, and rapes them at Occupy Wall Street and other protests.