Zone1 Abortion and Transgender is Demonic

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embryonic stage -- i.e not a human being.

Embryology textbooks disagrees with you. Do you have a citation from an embryology textbook to back up your claim?

If it's not a human being what species is it?

 

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You are denying science like a religious nutjob.

You did not even read your own copy-paste. Or you did, but just suffer from terrible reading comprehension.

 

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Embryology textbooks disagrees with you. Do you have a citation from a scientific source to back up your claim? If it's not a human being what species is it?

I do. The one you shared above.

 

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You did not even read your own copy-paste. Or you did, but just suffer from terrible reading comprehension.

Yes, I have. They say at conception a new genetically distinct human being has come into existence. One that has never existed before and will never exist again.

What do you think they said?

 

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I do. The one you shared above.

Quote it. Because you are 100% incorrect.

 

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I do. The one you shared above.

Was this the quote you are referring to?

"An individual human life begins at conception when a sperm cell from the father fuses with an egg cell from the mother, to form a new cell, the zygote, the first embryonic stage. The zygote grows and divides into two daughter cells, each of which grows and divides into two grand-daughter cells, and this cell growth/division process continues on, over and over again. The zygote is the start of a biological continuum that automatically grows and develops, passing gradually and sequentially through the stages we call foetus, baby, child, adult, old person and ending eventually in death. The full genetic instructions to guide the development of the continuum, in interaction with its environment, are present in the zygote. Every stage along the continuum is biologically human and each point along the continuum has the full human properties appropriate to that point."
Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland

 

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Yes, THE FIRST stage, exactly and more exactly, embryonic stage -- i.e not a human being.

But he or she is.

"Every stage along the continuum is biologically human and each point along the continuum has the full human properties appropriate to that point." Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland

 

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Exactly so many, nany, many steps that do not even always happen mind you.

Again...

"Every stage along the continuum is biologically human and each point along the continuum has the full human properties appropriate to that point." Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland

 

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STOP! You just proved my point; foetes =/= child. Thanks.

I don't believe so.

"Every stage along the continuum is biologically human and each point along the continuum has the full human properties appropriate to that point." Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland

 

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Well, yeah. Human as an adjective

Incorrect. Scientific empirical evidence.

"After fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being...[this] is no longer a matter of taste or opinion, it is not a metaphysical contention, it is plain experimental evidence...." - Dr Jerome LeJeune, Professor of Genetics at the University of Descartes, Paris, discoverer of the chromosome pattern of Down's Syndrome, and Nobel Prize Winner, Report, Subcommittee on Separation of Powers to Senate Judiciary Committee S-158, 97th Congress, 1st Session 1981

 

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I don't believe so.

"Every stage along the continuum is biologically human and each point along the continuum has the full human properties appropriate to that point." Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland

You suffer from a cognitive malfunction called religiosity making you incapable of telling apart the potential and the actual drawing youto ridiculous conclusions about abortion.

I will psrdon your biological ignorance because you are not to blame for your parents sending you to a Christian school where there was no sex ed. In your world, a woman has a baby after God says "hocus pocus". What is more worrying is your reading comprehension. The text you shared confirms everything I have said. Science is not on your side.

Science is not really important here though since abortion is a matter of individual rights and your understanding of that is just as poor as your understanding of biology.

I broke down your citation into smaller sections in my reply above tp make itveasier for you to understand your own source.

 

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Incorrect. Scientific empirical evidence.

"After fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being...[this] is no longer a matter of taste or opinion, it is not a metaphysical contention, it is plain experimental evidence...." - Dr Jerome LeJeune, Professor of Genetics at the University of Descartes, Paris, discoverer of the chromosome pattern of Down's Syndrome, and Nobel Prize Winner, Report, Subcommittee on Separation of Powers to Senate Judiciary Committee S-158, 97th Congress, 1st Session 1981

That is incorrected. Notevery fertiilized egg results in pregnancy.

 

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You suffer from a cognitive malfunction called religiosity making you incapable of telling apart the potential and the actual drawing youto ridiculous conclusions about abortion.

I will psrdon your biological ignorance because you are not to blame for your parents sending you to a Christian school where there was no sex ed. In your world, a woman has a baby after God says "hocus pocus". What is more worrying is your reading comprehension. The text you shared confirms everything I have said. Science is not on your side.

Science is not really important here though since abortion is a matter of individual rights and your understanding of that is just as poor as your understanding of biology.

I broke down your citation into smaller sections in my reply above tp make itveasier for you to understand your own source.

I haven't gotten within 100 miles of God. I am making a human right arguments based upon scientific evidence. You are dehumanizing human life so you can sleep better at night. You are delusional if you think you have refuted anything. I could be charged with rape for what I have done to you in this debate.

 

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That is incorrected. Notevery fertiilized egg results in pregnancy.

So what? That has absolutely no bearing on human life beginning at conception.

There's a reason you don't have any scientific citations to support your beliefs, there's no science to back it up.

 

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You suffer from a cognitive malfunction called religiosity making you incapable of telling apart the potential and the actual drawing youto ridiculous conclusions about abortion.

I will psrdon your biological ignorance because you are not to blame for your parents sending you to a Christian school where there was no sex ed. In your world, a woman has a baby after God says "hocus pocus". What is more worrying is your reading comprehension. The text you shared confirms everything I have said. Science is not on your side.

Science is not really important here though since abortion is a matter of individual rights and your understanding of that is just as poor as your understanding of biology.

I broke down your citation into smaller sections in my reply above tp make itveasier for you to understand your own source.

You really are melting down.

 

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I haven't gotten within 100 miles of God. I am making a human right arguments based upon scientific evidence. You are dehumanizing human life so you can sleep better at night. You are delusional if you think you have refuted anything. I could be charged with rape for what I have done to you in this debate.

May I please remind you that your citations are nonsense in this context since our argument is not about DNA, but about rights and you have already agreed rights do not come from DNA. Still you keep posting about DNA.

A ZEF is only a potential newborn and up until birth it is physically attached to the pregmant woman, it lives in and of her and is by definition not an individual and it is only individuals who have rights.

I miss when the religious would just say "because God" to argue against abortion because at least that was honest. This whole schtick of pretending to care about science is pathetic. Keep your stupid Ben Shapiro talking points to yourself.

 

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You really are melting down.

Of course I am. You are saying a woman has no right to life. It is something to be triggered over.

 

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May I please remind you that your citations are nonsense in this context since our argument is not about DNA, but about rights and you have already agreed rights do not come from DNA. Still you keep posting about DNA.

A ZEF is only a potential newborn and up until birth it is physically attached to the pregmant woman, it lives in and of her and is by definition not an individual and it is only individuals who have rights.

I miss when the religious would just say "because God" to argue against abortion because at least that was honest. This whole schtick of pretending to care about science is pathetic. Keep your stupid Ben Shapiro talking points to yourself.

The citations are from embryology textbooks. This is what they teach in universities in embryology classes. I love the fact that the concept of goodness is so ingrained in you that you need to deny science to rationalize abortion is good and just so that you can see yourself as a good person.

A more honest approach would be to say, "to hell with your invisible code of right and wrong." But no, you can't abandon the concept of fairness no matter what. If you are looking for proof of God, look no further than yourself.

 

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Of course I am. You are saying a woman has no right to life. It is something to be triggered over.

That's not what I am saying at all. You can't understand what I am saying because you are so certain you know what I am thinking.

 

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May I please remind you that your citations are nonsense in this context since our argument is not about DNA, but about rights and you have already agreed rights do not come from DNA. Still you keep posting about DNA.

How many times do I have to remind you that DNA is evidence of personhood? You can't have a competing rights argument without determining humanness and personhood. Your strategy is to deny both. My strategy is to show that scientific evidence proves the child in the womb is human and a specific person. That is the starting point for the competing rights argument. You want to skip that step and go straight to the mother is the only person with rights which I disagree with based upon scientific evidence of personhood.