Zone1 Abortion and Transgender is Demonic

[Trickster]

Gods views differ from men who live in darkness, ruled by satan's will. God knows one prior to their birth, thus are a living breathing being in his view, abortion is murder. Mans justice is corrupt to the core. Did you not hear-Satan is the ruler of this world, the god of this system of things. He has had 99% minimum mislead all through mankind's history.

I do not know who these mystical creatures you refer to are supposed to be and if you are again just speakingin metaphores, I still do not get what you are trying to say.

What js clear, however, is that it is your view of justice that is not just corrupted, but also perverted as you believe rights pertain to that which does not yet exist.

Your God sounds stupid.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Naive Understanding For Claims Of An Image "

* Telling Of Truth With Many Lies *

His image= the ability to love, reason, and things like that.

Only all the good things , too perfect .

By analogy , assume each hue mammon ape is an image from a specification of its creator , then the specification would be of a goad that eats meals and sets on a porcelain throne , of a goad that asserts nihilism through a vengeful disposition ; its proponents call it tough love .

* Beyond Conjectural Definition Of An Image *

Consider a contemporary understanding for an image from computer science .

A build artifact is created from a specification , such an artifact could be an image for a container ; further more , a pod can be deployed with one or more containers for some applicable service .

Is it reasonable for theists to believe of theists , or of atheists , or of apatheists , do not appreciate homeostasis ?

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Ignores Genetic Religions And Gets All Histrionic About Deviations From Uniform Fetish That Quells Anxiety Of Mortality "

* Mocking Haughty Claims Of Those Ignoring A Literal Meaning For An After Life *

The universe popping into existence freaks out atheists as well it should.

Following foundations of pure reason , a basis for existence of nature is a'priori .

From an evaluation of an irrational number , a quality of infinitude can be described as that of being and of becoming through some transition ; and , a method of transition for becoming has not been identified .

A universe popping into existence does not freak anyone out , except freaks claiming others are freaked out ; and , theists have plenty of such freaks devising schemes to implement a myriad of dictates for absurd expectations .

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Basically? What do you mean "baaically"? Murder is a very specific or at least it has to be if you want objective law and a functional justice system.

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If a pregnant woman is murdered, there are places where the perpetrator can be charged with two murders. Killing a child in utero is murder..

 

[Trickster]

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If a pregnant woman is murdered, there are places where the perpetrator can be charged with two murders. Killing a child in utero is murder..

Yes because the standard is the pregnant woman's will. Framing it as two murders is wrong in my opinion, but the non-consensual termination of a pregnancy should be a crime.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Non Sequitur "

* False Claims Of Fetal Rite To Life Based On Legal Jargon Unchallenged As Non Consequential *

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If a pregnant woman is murdered, there are places where the perpetrator can be charged with two murders. Killing a child in utero is murder..

The killing of a fetus is an offense against the mother whom has constitutional protections , and the punishment for the offense can be appropriate for the extent of wrong , which may include a penalty expected for that of murder .

Note that fetal protection law specifies that a death penalty is not allowed , and the reason is because the fetus does not have constitutional protections , whereby a perpetrator would forfeit their constitutional rite to life by removing a rite to life of another .

A positive law is a law that was put in place by writ , which asserts there is not a necessary correlation between morality and the written law .

A law exits because there is an entity capable of and issuing a retort for violations of some legal construct , therefore there is not a law of nature against killing , thus there is no law of nature whereby killing could be considered murder .

Zone1 Thread 'Why Do Zealots Justify Violence Because Their Goad Will Not Do It ?'

Jan 19, 2025

" How Do Zealots Justify Violence Because Their Goad Will Not Do It ? "

* Invocation Of Violence To Justify Ineptitude Of A Purported Omnipotent *

The author of the qurayn named surah 47 after itself and asserts the following :

47:5 So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if God had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed...

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[kjw47]

I do not know who these mystical creatures you refer to are supposed to be and if you are again just speakingin metaphores, I still do not get what you are trying to say.

What js clear, however, is that it is your view of justice that is not just corrupted, but also perverted as you believe rights pertain to that which does not yet exist.

Your God sounds stupid.

Imagine that one who can't even create a single blade of grass calls the one who created all creation stupid, is this the comedy hour?

 

[kjw47]

" Naive Understanding For Claims Of An Image "

* Telling Of Truth With Many Lies *

Only all the good things , too perfect .

By analogy , assume each hue mammon ape is an image from a specification of its creator , then the specification would be of a goad that eats meals and sets on a porcelain throne , of a goad that asserts nihilism through a vengeful disposition ; its proponents call it tough love .

* Beyond Conjectural Definition Of An Image *

Consider a contemporary understanding for an image from computer science .

A build artifact is created from a specification , such an artifact could be an image for a container ; further more , a pod can be deployed with one or more containers for some applicable service .

Is it reasonable for theists to believe of theists , or of atheists , or of apatheists , do not appreciate homeostasis ?

God warned all mankind he will not accept sin. He owns every iota of creation he has 100% right to say what goes and what doesn't.

 

[ding]

I am honestly not at all scared of death. Seems like a silly thing to fear.

And yet the survival instinct is prevalent in all life forms. But religion isn't about death, it's about how to live.

 

[ding]

...is that it is your view of justice...

Seems like you are making a fairness argument. Ever wonder why every argument you make is a moral argument?

 

[ding]

Yes because the standard is the pregnant woman's will. Framing it as two murders is wrong in my opinion, but the non-consensual termination of a pregnancy should be a crime.

Is that the standard? If we are talking about murder the standard is the premeditated killing of a human being by another human being. What you are describing is more like an exception to the standard like war is an exception to the standard.

But make no mistake, the standard and the exceptions are based upon arguments of fairness. No matter how convoluted the argument for the exception.

 

[ding]

" Ignores Genetic Religions And Gets All Histrionic About Deviations From Uniform Fetish That Quells Anxiety Of Mortality "

* Mocking Haughty Claims Of Those Ignoring A Literal Meaning For An After Life *

Following foundations of pure reason , a basis for existence of nature is a'priori .

From an evaluation of an irrational number , a quality of infinitude can be described as that of being and of becoming through some transition ; and , a method of transition for becoming has not been identified .

A universe popping into existence does not freak anyone out , except freaks claiming others are freaked out ; and , theists have plenty of such freaks devising schemes to implement a myriad of dictates for absurd expectations .

The universe popping into existence most certainly freaks out atheists, especially the militant ones like yourself.

 

[ding]

a basis for existence of nature is a'priori

Yes, everything which preceded the universe popping into existence is a theoretical deduction or philosophy. The universe popping into existence isn't though. That is based upon empirical evidence of the CMB and red shift which are physical observations. So while the existence of nature prior to the creation of space and time is an apriori, the theoretical deduction honors the physical observations.

 

[Trickster]

And yet the survival instinct is prevalent in all life forms. But religion isn't about death, it's about how to live.

Religion is definitely about death because all you live fkr is the "afterlife".

 

[Trickster]

Seems like you are making a fairness argument. Ever wonder why every argument you make is a moral argument?

Because I take morality seriously.

 

[ding]

Because I take morality seriously.

More like because you were hardwired for it. As was pretty much everyone else. So much so, that when they violate it, they rationalize they didn't violate it. That's how ingrained it is in us. We can't stand being seen by others as being unfair or immoral.

 

[Trickster]

Is that the standard? If we are talking about murder the standard is the premeditated killing of a human being by another human being. What you are describing is more like an exception to the standard like war is an exception to the standard.

But make no mistake, the standard and the exceptions are based upon arguments of fairness. No matter how convoluted the argument for the exception.

We are talking about abortion here where an unwillingly pregnant woman chooses to terminate her pregnancy. There is no murder there.

You view women as less of individuals than zygotes and thereforedemand she sacrifices herself for it. By implication you also view motherhood as a punishment and want children to grow up with parent(s) who do not want them.

It is disgusting.

Women are not breeding stock.

 

[ding]

Because I take morality seriously.

Wouldn't it be great if you could just say, "the hell with your invisible code of common decency?" Why not just say, "I don't care if I am being unfair. I am only concerned with meeting my material needs and satisfying my primitive impulses?"

Because that is exactly what atheism is predicated upon.

 

[ding]

We are talking about abortion here where an unwillingly pregnany woman chooses to terminate her pregnancy. There is no murder there.

By the strict definition of murder, there is. Abortion is premeditated and it does kill a human being even if you refuse to recognize them as human beings.

 

[Trickster]

By the strict definition of murder, there is. Abortion is premeditated and it does kill a human being even if you refuse to recognize them as human beings.

Wrong.

ZEFs are not human beings. They are only potential human beings and rights only pertain to the actual. Potentials do not have rights and the only actjal human being involved in the decision is the unwillingly pregnant woman.