'Abortion' and religious strawmen

[eots]

Being forced to bear an unwanted fetus is one of the most beautiful magical aspects of life?

And spare me your phony pity. LOL! You have no true compassion for real, existing people. Just for imagined future beings.

no really I do pity you....

I guess I'll have to humor you. I mean with a face like that, I should cut you some slack.

lets see you post yer face lol...this face and my roguish charm have landed me some of the most attractive woman one could hope for...don't pretend

 

[JBeukema]

So, anguille ignores my points and attacks etos' appearance in order to defend its position?

 

[AllieBaba]

Huge flaw, the abortion issue isn't fully religious and never was.

It largely is, and the abortion industry loves to paint it as such. As Eots says

the media likes to focus on the extremes

-and most Americans only 'know' what the MSM tells them

The abortion industry is funded and powered by liberals and Planned Parenthood. And like most of the propaganda they spread, the religiosity of those who oppose abortion is at best an exaggeration, at worst a lie, and the purpose is to continue a HUGE money making industry.

That makes its money slaughtering the most vulnerable and innocent.

 

[AllieBaba]

I'm so confused....is JB against abortion? Or for it? ???

I'd feel really bad if I called him a retard and neg repped him when he was agreeing with me.

Well, not that bad.

 

[eots]

So, anguille ignores my points and attacks etos' appearance in order to defend its position?

the years have taught me thats a sure sign of her repressed sexual desires and denial of her natural womanhood...she is just experiencing a certain self loathing and confusion with simultaneously being repulsed and attracted to the eots ...it happens all the tiime..in real life it has always been a sure sign I'm going to get some ...if i have them either laughing there ass off or insulting my appearance it means.. I'm in

 

[Father Time]

So you agree that Del's post is bullshit?

No just your idiotic claim that keeping abortion legal is somehow forcing morality onto people since they don't have to actually get one nor do they have to concern themselves with people who do.

-yet it's legal to stab someone in the pull, rip their head open, and suck their brains out? It's legal to literally pull someone apart limb by limb, poison them, starve them to death, or suffocate them?

What restaurants are you eating at?

And do try to address the original point instead of going on about how you feel a fetus is equal to that of a born person (which to me is stupid but that's beside the point).

You're a ******* moron. Murder can never be legal, you twit. Get a dictionary\

Semantics are we? Tsk tsk. Fine, if shooting someone for no reason was legal

could then murder or rob you and it would be ok, you see to murder or rob you involve your non-consent

First off, that's not necessarily true.

Secondly- I take it then that you have a sign ed form giving consent from the child to kill it?

So you want me to use the legal definition of murder then say I should have written consent from a fetus which is legally (and physically) impossible? Can you at least try to be consistent?

 

[JBeukema]

So the idiotic allie neg reps and attacks me for a typographical error (a problem common with spellcheck) and for- saying the exact thing that it says in its attack against me?

 

[JBeukema]

So you agree that Del's post is bullshit?

No just your idiotic claim that keeping abortion legal is somehow forcing morality onto people since they don't have to actually get one nor do they have to concern themselves with people who do.

What you fail to grasp is that the arguments for abortion- 'forcing' a woman to bear a child, an 'invasion of her body', restricting 'her right to choose' are moral arguments. They are arguing from their morality, same as the other side. Just ask them why it is 'good' to 'protect' her 'right to choose' or why 'violating' her body or 'infringing her rights' is 'bad'.

Clearly you're not smart enough to see that, so I'll thank you to excuse yourself from intelligent discussion.

What restaurants are you eating at?

And do try to address the original point

I have, and I have also shown their arguments to be contradictory, illogical, and self-refuting

Semantics are we?

Illiterate, are you? How can a person be semantics?

So you want me to use the legal definition of murder then say I should have written consent from a fetus which is legally (and physically) impossible? Can you at least try to be consistent?

I am. It is you who said that the reason theft, rape, etc are wrong is because of a lack of consent. You said that consent= justifiable homicide (assisted suicide) while non-consent= unjustifiable homicide. So, now apply your argument and demonstrate the consent of the unborn to be slain.

 

[AllieBaba]

tell you what.
you obsess about other people's choices all you want.
i don't give flying **** how you waste your time, but don't accuse me of calling you a ****, dumbo, unless you can back it up.

get it?

Obsess about other people choices to kill and mutilate babies? hmmmm call it what you wish. I am passionate about it. I give a flying **** how you choose to use my tax money to fund abortions around the world against my freewill got it guy?

how many kids have you adopted? ten? twelve? more?

but let's get back to me allegedly calling you a ****, dumbo.

prove it or shut the **** up.

How does one prove cuntism?

 

[JBeukema]

Obsess about other people choices to kill and mutilate babies? hmmmm call it what you wish. I am passionate about it. I give a flying **** how you choose to use my tax money to fund abortions around the world against my freewill got it guy?

how many kids have you adopted? ten? twelve? more?

but let's get back to me allegedly calling you a ****, dumbo.

prove it or shut the **** up.

How does one prove cuntism?

Let's have a look...

 

[AllieBaba]

I'll pass.

FT, one wonders if you award the present of "persondom" to those who are disabled, diminished capacity, or ugly?

Do we get to kill all those we find offensive? Because I have a list.....

 

[Luissa]

Eots and I have refuted all of your moronic posts. You've made no points or arguments. All you've done is shriek 'have you had a baby, fascist' over and over

I asked you once if you have ever been pregnant and I wasn't even the one to call you a fascist in the first place. I just pointed how you are fascist but didn't know it because you have no idea what fascism is. YOu know what they say about denial.
And I see you responded just the way I expected you too.

 

[eots]

Eots and I have refuted all of your moronic posts. You've made no points or arguments. All you've done is shriek 'have you had a baby, fascist' over and over

I asked you once if you have ever been pregnant and I wasn't even the one to call you a fascist in the first place. I just pointed how you are fascist but didn't know it because you have no idea what fascism is. YOu know what they say about denial.
And I see you responded just the way I expected you too.

blah blah blah yammer yammer fascist blah blah fascism...huh what ?

 

[JBeukema]

I wasn't even the one to call you a fascist in the first place. I just pointed how you are fascist

*facepam*

you have no idea what fascism is.

*lol*

Really? Do feel free to enlighten us, then- after you address the points made.

 

[AllieBaba]

Eots and I have refuted all of your moronic posts. You've made no points or arguments. All you've done is shriek 'have you had a baby, fascist' over and over

I asked you once if you have ever been pregnant and I wasn't even the one to call you a fascist in the first place. I just pointed how you are fascist but didn't know it because you have no idea what fascism is. YOu know what they say about denial.
And I see you responded just the way I expected you too.

blah blah blah yammer yammer fascist blah blah fascism...huh what ?

Here, let's dumb it down for you:

She SAID (this is a paraphrase. That's when you say something in a simple way that the village idiot can comprehend):

"Have you given birth?"
"The topic of 'fascism" came up and I said you probably didn't realize you were one."

Is that better?

 

[AllieBaba]

I wasn't even the one to call you a fascist in the first place. I just pointed how you are fascist

*facepam*

you have no idea what fascism is.

*lol*

Really? Do feel free to enlighten us, then- after you address the points made.

I will pass on "facepam". Is that a typo, a made-up word, or just a weird interspeak phrase. Or perhaps misspelled?

But here, since you don't know the definition, I'll enlighten you per request:

1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Let's see..I need to paraphrase for the second village idiot now...
Fascism is putting entities above humans. For example, the entity of government, or racial purity, or a master intellectual race, or a group of people..is considered more important than any single person.

Therefore, those who don't agree with the favored entity can be persecuted with impunity.

For example, killing babies. They aren't a part of the plan for a highly intellectual society. So we don't give a shit if they're killed.

Or creating laws which limit personal freedom...after all, the people come second to whatever group is currently in style. Right now, that would be environmental, city dwelling, conscienless, progressive and non-religious folk.

Did that make sense to you? Because we can make it simpler if you need that...

 

[JBeukema]

But here, since you don't know the definition, I'll enlighten you per request:

evidently that went right over your head, since the point was that the fools who kept throwing the words 'rape' and 'fascism' around have no idea what they mean



You're not smart enough to be a smartass

 

[AllieBaba]

Oh, no, it didn't fly over my head. However, my application did over yours..so I will dumb it down even more for you in the future.

It will be difficult, but I'm pretty sure I'm up for the task.

 

[Father Time]

So you agree that Del's post is bullshit?

No just your idiotic claim that keeping abortion legal is somehow forcing morality onto people since they don't have to actually get one nor do they have to concern themselves with people who do.

What you fail to grasp is that the arguments for abortion- 'forcing' a woman to bear a child, an 'invasion of her body', restricting 'her right to choose' are moral arguments. They are arguing from their morality, same as the other side. Just ask them why it is 'good' to 'protect' her 'right to choose' or why 'violating' her body or 'infringing her rights' is 'bad'.

Clearly you're not smart enough to see that, so I'll thank you to excuse yourself from intelligent discussion.

Quit trying to change their subject. I was refuting your bone-headed idea that legalized abortion somehow forces morality onto those who don't like it. If it's legal you can still follow the idea that it's wrong and immoral and choose to not do it, same as pornography, or racist jokes. Nobody's forcing your hand nor forcing you to live with the mentality that abortion's ok. You're just trying to play a 'the other side is so evil' card which is quite pathetic.


What restaurants are you eating at?

I have, and I have also shown their arguments to be contradictory, illogical, and self-refuting

You act like I'm arguing about abortion in general rather than your one point. Please stop with the straw men.

Semantics are we?

Illiterate, are you? How can a person be semantics?

You said murder could never be legal because by it's very definition it's illegal. That's arguing semantics and a quite obvious deflection but great job in showing us you can't follow an argument for more than 2 posts.

So you want me to use the legal definition of murder then say I should have written consent from a fetus which is legally (and physically) impossible? Can you at least try to be consistent?

I am. It is you who said that the reason theft, rape, etc are wrong is because of a lack of consent. You said that consent= justifiable homicide (assisted suicide) while non-consent= unjustifiable homicide. So, now apply your argument and demonstrate the consent of the unborn to be slain.

FETUSES CANNOT CONSENT. Not legally, not physically either, just like animals.

Although the whole reason for responding to you was the whole dumb idea that pro-choicers are somehow forcing morality onto you by keeping abortion illegal.

 

[JW Frogen]

If Neitchze's mother had aborted him would God have lived?