Abolish the ‘Undemocratic’ Electoral College?

[TroglocratsRdumb]

MSN

Senate Democrats are moving to try to abolish the Electoral College after their party suffered defeats up and down the ballot in November’s elections.

Democratic members of the Senate Judiciary Committee released the S.J. Res. 121 on Dec. 12, which proposes a Constitutional amendment to do away with the Electoral College system altogether and replace it with a simple national popular vote system. Senate Democrats Brian Schatz of Hawaii, Dick Durbin of Illinois and Peter Welch of Vermont sponsored the resolution.

Comment:
The Democrats are cheaters.
They can't win fairly so they want to change the rules.
It would take a constitutional amendment to abolish the electoral college.
That will never happen.

 

[Thunk]

Abolish the undemocratic democrats!

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

A popular vote election system would disenfranchise millions of voters.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The Democrats are defending "democracy" kind of like Madonna is defending virginity.
They are ******* the hell out of it.

 

[Rambunctious]

If we ever did abolish the electoral college the end of the UNITED States would begin... States would eventually separate and fight for their own Sovereignty... the electoral college was the most genius part of our founding... it is what has kept us together...

 

[alang1216]

A popular vote election system would disenfranchise millions of voters.

The EC already disenfranchises millions of voters so that is hardly a valid argument.

 

[alang1216]

MSN

Senate Democrats are moving to try to abolish the Electoral College after their party suffered defeats up and down the ballot in November’s elections.

Democratic members of the Senate Judiciary Committee released the S.J. Res. 121 on Dec. 12, which proposes a Constitutional amendment to do away with the Electoral College system altogether and replace it with a simple national popular vote system. Senate Democrats Brian Schatz of Hawaii, Dick Durbin of Illinois and Peter Welch of Vermont sponsored the resolution.

Comment:
The Democrats are cheaters.
They can't win fairly so they want to change the rules.
It would take a constitutional amendment to abolish the electoral college.
That will never happen.

There are things we can do to tweak the EC without giving more power to either party. One that comes to mind is to remove the winner-take-all aspect. This has the effect of making a few swing states decide the election. If California were not winner-take-all, Republicans would campaign there and likely get plenty of EC votes that would have gone to the Dems.

 

[Crepitus]

Abolish the ‘Undemocratic’ Electoral College?​

Works for me, why are you against it?

Afraid you can't win in a straight up fight?

Yu probably golf with a handicap too.

 

[Crepitus]

A popular vote election system would disenfranchise millions of voters.

How?

 

[OKTexas]

MSN

Senate Democrats are moving to try to abolish the Electoral College after their party suffered defeats up and down the ballot in November’s elections.

Democratic members of the Senate Judiciary Committee released the S.J. Res. 121 on Dec. 12, which proposes a Constitutional amendment to do away with the Electoral College system altogether and replace it with a simple national popular vote system. Senate Democrats Brian Schatz of Hawaii, Dick Durbin of Illinois and Peter Welch of Vermont sponsored the resolution.

Comment:
The Democrats are cheaters.
They can't win fairly so they want to change the rules.
It would take a constitutional amendment to abolish the electoral college.
That will never happen.

They would never get a 2/3rds majority in either house to even propose an amendment, so this is all moot.

.

 

[elektra]

Changing our election system will not change the failure of the democrat party. This proposal simply shows how stupid democrats are. Instead of looking as to what they can do for us the democrats disagree with our Constitution and wish to change what type of country the USA is.

 

[para bellum]

Democratic members of the Senate Judiciary Committee released the S.J. Res. 121 on Dec. 12, which proposes a Constitutional amendment to do away with the Electoral College system altogether and replace it with a simple national popular vote system. Senate Democrats Brian Schatz of Hawaii, Dick Durbin of Illinois and Peter Welch of Vermont sponsored the resolution.

Just more showboating. It would need a 2/3 majority in both houses to move forward, and those votes are not there, not even close.

 

[elektra]

Just more showboating. It would need a 2/3 majority in both houses to move forward, and those votes are not there, not even close.

It would need more than a 2/3 vote. It would require a change to the Constitution which would have to be ratified by the states

 

[para bellum]

They would never get a 2/3rds majority in either house to even propose an amendment, so this is all moot.

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Haha, beat me to it. Yep, no chance of it passing the Congress. Dead before it's even introduced...

 

[para bellum]

It would need more than a 2/3 vote. It would require a change to the Constitution which would have to be ratified by the states

I said to move forward. It would need to pass the Congress first, then it would go to the States.

They can't even make it over the first hurdle, the second one is moot.

 

[elektra]

Haha, beat me to it. Yep, no chance of it passing the Congress. Dead before it's even introduced...

Amendments must be ratified by the states.

 

[para bellum]

Amendments must be ratified by the states.

Ya think?

 

[OKTexas]

There are things we can do to tweak the EC without giving more power to either party. One that comes to mind is to remove the winner-take-all aspect. This has the effect of making a few swing states decide the election. If California were not winner-take-all, Republicans would campaign there and likely get plenty of EC votes that would have gone to the Dems.

That would require an amendment as well, to take the States power to allocate their EC votes away. I don't see that happening either.

.

 

[OKTexas]

Changing our election system will not change the failure of the democrat party. This proposal simply shows how stupid democrats are. Instead of looking as to what they can do for us the democrats disagree with our Constitution and wish to change what type of country the USA is.

Yep, maobamas dream of fundamental transformation. Screw that milk chocolate freak.

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[elektra]

I said to move forward. It would need to pass the Congress first, then it would go to the States.

They can't even make it over the first hurdle, the second one is moot

There are two options under article V, I thought there was only one way. 2/3rds of the states can have a constitutional convention to change the electoral college