Abbas Will Oppose Official Recognition of Jewish State

[docmauser1]

We are not friends. We are being used.

Palistanians have always been used, of course.

 

[georgephillip]

We are not friends. We are being used.

Palistanians have always been used, of course.

Did Winnie know?
(Of course!)

 

[docmauser1]

Where do you plan on "resettling" the indigenous Arabs of Palestine?

Are there any?

 

[Indeependent]

Where do you plan on "resettling" the indigenous Arabs of Palestine?

Are there any?

I think these "Palestine" posters have been watching too many Cecil B DeMille movies.

 

[docmauser1]

How is any agreement, accidental or otherwise, going to survive without NATO peacekeepers under US officers in the Jordan Valley for at least the next generation?

What? The casa blanca doesn't have an answer?

 

[docmauser1]

We are not friends. We are being used.

Palistanians have always been used, of course.

Did Winnie know?

Of course, not - there were no palistanians back then.

 

[georgephillip]

Where do you plan on "resettling" the indigenous Arabs of Palestine?

Are there any?

"The Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS) estimated Palestinians at mid year 2009 as 10.7 million persons as follows: 3.9 million in the Palestinian Territory (36.6%), 1.2 million (11.5%) in Israel; 5.0 million in Arab countries (46.2%), 0.6 million in foreign countries (5.7%).[6]

"According to an article in Guardian (2008) using PCBS census figures, the Palestinian territories have one of the fastest growing populations in the world, with numbers surging 30% in the past decade (2008). There was 3.76 million Palestinians in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem, up from 2.89 million 10 years earlier.[7]

"According to the U.S. Census population growth mid-1990-2008 in Gaza and West Bank was 106% from 1.9 million (1990) to 3.9 million persons.[8]"

Are you ready for your BATH, Drivel

Demographics of the Palestinian territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Indeependent]

Where do you plan on "resettling" the indigenous Arabs of Palestine?

Are there any?

"The Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS) estimated Palestinians at mid year 2009 as 10.7 million persons as follows: 3.9 million in the Palestinian Territory (36.6%), 1.2 million (11.5%) in Israel; 5.0 million in Arab countries (46.2%), 0.6 million in foreign countries (5.7%).[6]

"According to an article in Guardian (2008) using PCBS census figures, the Palestinian territories have one of the fastest growing populations in the world, with numbers surging 30% in the past decade (2008). There was 3.76 million Palestinians in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem, up from 2.89 million 10 years earlier.[7]

"According to the U.S. Census population growth mid-1990-2008 in Gaza and West Bank was 106% from 1.9 million (1990) to 3.9 million persons.[8]"

Are you ready for your BATH, Drivel

Demographics of the Palestinian territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For a people who are always starving to death and being exterminated by the Israeli aggressors they sure do multiply.

 

[docmauser1]

Where do you plan on "resettling" the indigenous Arabs of Palestine?

Are there any?

"The Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS) estimated Palestinians at mid year 2009 as 10.7 million persons as follows: 3.9 million in the Palestinian Territory (36.6%), 1.2 million (11.5%) in Israel; 5.0 million in Arab countries (46.2%), 0.6 million in foreign countries (5.7%).[6] "According to an article in Guardian (2008) using PCBS census figures, the Palestinian territories have one of the fastest growing populations in the world, with numbers surging 30% in the past decade (2008). There was 3.76 million Palestinians in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem, up from 2.89 million 10 years earlier.[7]"According to the U.S. Census population growth mid-1990-2008 in Gaza and West Bank was 106% from 1.9 million (1990) to 3.9 million persons.[8]"

The palisturdian statistics bureau is just inflating birth data by 25% to 40%, of course. Funny that there're jackasses buying their forgery.

Are you ready for your BATH, Drivel

Non sequitur drivel.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The neo-conservatives, not Obama, have "lost all credibility." Their "promises and guarantees are worthless both domestically and internationally" since the debacles of Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[Warrior102]

Did someone say ABBA ????

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unfzfe8f9NI"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unfzfe8f9NI[/ame]

 

[RoccoR]

georgephillip, et al,

No, --- This is wrong. First, the US should not get involved, under any circumstances; or for any reason.

How is any agreement, accidental or otherwise, going to survive without NATO peacekeepers under US officers in the Jordan Valley for at least the next generation?

(COMMENT)

If, for any reason, UN Peacekeepers are needed - to be deployed, they should be either Russian [Special Forces (Spetsnaz)] or Chinese (People's Liberation Army Special Operations Forces); definitely not American. Neither the Chinese or the Russians will take any disrespect or place themselves in a position in which the Palestinians can manipulate them. They have the ability to quietly and firmly send a message to the Palestinian Leadership in ways that the Palestinians could only appreciate.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

georgephillip, et al,

No, --- This is wrong. First, the US should not get involved, under any circumstances; or for any reason.

How is any agreement, accidental or otherwise, going to survive without NATO peacekeepers under US officers in the Jordan Valley for at least the next generation?

(COMMENT)

If, for any reason, UN Peacekeepers are needed - to be deployed, they should be either Russian [Special Forces (Spetsnaz)] or Chinese (People's Liberation Army Special Operations Forces); definitely not American. Neither the Chinese or the Russians will take any disrespect or place themselves in a position in which the Palestinians can manipulate them. They have the ability to quietly and firmly send a message to the Palestinian Leadership in ways that the Palestinians could only appreciate.

Most Respectfully,
R

Israel just wants to keep the occupation but call it something else.

Israel never misses the opportunity to make a shit offer.

 

[P F Tinmore]

et al,

I'm not sure that we all understand what is going on here. This is very strange.

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas presented his terms for the acceptance of a U.S.-backed framework agreement with Israel to the Arab League over the weekend in Cairo, Ma’an News Agency reported on Monday. Among Abbas’ conditions, there is to be no recognition of Israel as a Jewish State.



SOURCES: Abbas Will Oppose Official Recognition of Jewish State
DECEMBER 23, 2013

(COMMENT)

The "Jewish" State, as recognized by the UN in General Resolution 181(II), can do what it wants. It is part of their "right to self-determination." But I find it odd that the Arab-Palestinian doesn't use this blackmail option for something more substantial.

The Palestinian can demand that Israel call itself the Purple State, but that would not change the historical fact to what the world originally recognized it as.

What Purpose does this serve?

I think this establishes whether or not the Palestinians came in good faith to the Peace Talks.

Most Respectfully,
R

"Yet the offer points to what is likely the unspoken reality, that both sides have given up on the latest round of talks and are now just making offers 'meant to be rejected' so they can blame the other side for the failure. Still if both sides keep trying to trump the other with elaborate offers they might just stumble into agreement somewhere down the road."

PLO Official Offers Trade: Recognition of Israel as ?Jewish State? for 1967 Borders -- News from Antiwar.com

How is any agreement, accidental or otherwise, going to survive without NATO peacekeepers under US officers in the Jordan Valley for at least the next generation?

The peace process has always been fake. There was never any intention of making peace.

 

[Roudy]

The neo-conservatives, not Obama, have "lost all credibility." Their "promises and guarantees are worthless both domestically and internationally" since the debacles of Iraq and Afghanistan.

You mean Obama has done a great job with the economy! Obamacare, and international policy?

I think he's been shameful and a disaster in every respect. By the time he's done, Obama is going to make Bush look like an angel, and that's hard to do.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The neo-conservatives, not Obama, have "lost all credibility." Their "promises and guarantees are worthless both domestically and internationally" since the debacles of Iraq and Afghanistan.

You mean Obama has done a great job with the economy! Obamacare, and international policy?

I think he's been shameful and a disaster in every respect. By the time he's done, Obama is going to make Bush look like an angel, and that's hard to do.

Obama is owned by the same people who own Bush. How could he be any different?

 

[Roudy]

et al,

I'm not sure that we all understand what is going on here. This is very strange.


(COMMENT)

The "Jewish" State, as recognized by the UN in General Resolution 181(II), can do what it wants. It is part of their "right to self-determination." But I find it odd that the Arab-Palestinian doesn't use this blackmail option for something more substantial.

The Palestinian can demand that Israel call itself the Purple State, but that would not change the historical fact to what the world originally recognized it as.

What Purpose does this serve?

I think this establishes whether or not the Palestinians came in good faith to the Peace Talks.

Most Respectfully,
R

"Yet the offer points to what is likely the unspoken reality, that both sides have given up on the latest round of talks and are now just making offers 'meant to be rejected' so they can blame the other side for the failure. Still if both sides keep trying to trump the other with elaborate offers they might just stumble into agreement somewhere down the road."

PLO Official Offers Trade: Recognition of Israel as ?Jewish State? for 1967 Borders -- News from Antiwar.com

How is any agreement, accidental or otherwise, going to survive without NATO peacekeepers under US officers in the Jordan Valley for at least the next generation?

The peace process has always been fake. There was never any intention of making peace.

Yes, certainly there has never been any good intention on the Palestinian side. It's always been this dream of destroying the Jewish state and replacing it with an Arab Islamic Khalifate of Palestine. Keep wanking yourself off to that.

 

[Roudy]

The neo-conservatives, not Obama, have "lost all credibility." Their "promises and guarantees are worthless both domestically and internationally" since the debacles of Iraq and Afghanistan.

You mean Obama has done a great job with the economy! Obamacare, and international policy?

I think he's been shameful and a disaster in every respect. By the time he's done, Obama is going to make Bush look like an angel, and that's hard to do.

Obama is owned by the same people who own Bush. How could he be any different?

You mean the Saudi own Obama? Oh wait, let me guess. You're about to tell us that ZOG owns Obama, right? Ha ha ha.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"Yet the offer points to what is likely the unspoken reality, that both sides have given up on the latest round of talks and are now just making offers 'meant to be rejected' so they can blame the other side for the failure. Still if both sides keep trying to trump the other with elaborate offers they might just stumble into agreement somewhere down the road."

PLO Official Offers Trade: Recognition of Israel as ?Jewish State? for 1967 Borders -- News from Antiwar.com

How is any agreement, accidental or otherwise, going to survive without NATO peacekeepers under US officers in the Jordan Valley for at least the next generation?

The peace process has always been fake. There was never any intention of making peace.

Yes, certainly there has never been any good intention on the Palestinian side. It's always been this dream of destroying the Jewish state and replacing it with an Arab Islamic Khalifate of Palestine. Keep wanking yourself off to that.

Maybe Israel needs to stop making shit offers.

 

[georgephillip]

georgephillip, et al,

No, --- This is wrong. First, the US should not get involved, under any circumstances; or for any reason.

How is any agreement, accidental or otherwise, going to survive without NATO peacekeepers under US officers in the Jordan Valley for at least the next generation?

(COMMENT)

If, for any reason, UN Peacekeepers are needed - to be deployed, they should be either Russian [Special Forces (Spetsnaz)] or Chinese (People's Liberation Army Special Operations Forces); definitely not American. Neither the Chinese or the Russians will take any disrespect or place themselves in a position in which the Palestinians can manipulate them. They have the ability to quietly and firmly send a message to the Palestinian Leadership in ways that the Palestinians could only appreciate.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco...it seems like the US is already deeply involved in the quagmire and bears far more responsibility for its current state than either Russia or China. There's also an issue raised by Jonathon Cook lately referring to 2007's Annapolis meetings:

"The main sticking point is the Jordan Valley, an area that was expected to comprise nearly a quarter of a future Palestinian state.

"Gen Allen has indulged an Israeli demand that it be allowed to continue a long-term “military presence” in the Jordan Valley, with a reassessment by the US in 10-15 years’ time.

"That is a retreat from Washington’s earlier commitment at the Annapolis talks of 2007 that no Israeli soldiers would be stationed in the West Bank following an agreement.

"Security guarantees were to be provided instead by Nato troops, under US command.

"The new proposal should be a deal-breaker.

"The valley is a vital resource for the Palestinians, one they have been effectively stripped of for decades by Israel’s exaggerated 'security needs'”.

The US plan makes a viable Palestinian state untenable | Jonathan Cook: the View from Nazareth

I actually like your idea of UNSC peacekeepers in the Jordan Valley, but I think China should have the option of sub-contracting some of its responsibilities to the North Koreans, just to keep the Jews honest.

If we add the US military to the mix, I'm pretty sure there could be some huge pay-per-view revenues from cage fights featuring the best empty-handed fighters from all the peacekeepers with the IDF waiting for the winner in Bethlehem. (maybe next Christmas?)