AB-1461 Voter registration: California New Motor Voter Program

[The Original Tree]

You also cannot transport an illegal anywhere in the United States or help them obtain transportation.

This includes giving them Driver Licenses

8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens

 

[Faun]

The California law is for rubes.

There is no ID required to vote. No ID required to register. Therefore it doesn't matter if the DMV is registering them or not. They go to the website and can register in less than 30 seconds.

That is the point, imbecile.

That is not at all true. You shouldn’t try to speak as an authority on a subject you know nothing about.

Do I need a California ID to vote? Where is my Polling Place? The SDFP Quick and Easy Guide to Election Day

Read your link dumb ass.

California does not require an ID or proof of citizenship to register to vote. You simply show a utility bill or a paycheck and ATTEST that you are a citizen. It's the voting equivalent of a "Gun Free Zone".

California does not require proof of ID at the time you vote. They ask you your name and address. That's it. If your name is on the list (the one where you "attest" you are legal) and your address matches the one you used to register, you vote.

California requires proof of presence in order to get registered to vote. You've been shown this any denying it or acting stupid (assuming you're acting) to avoid accepting it is not going to save you.

Proof of "presence" is not ID. Try boarding an airplane with "presence"...

Ask her about our new Motor Voter law that kicks in in April.

Who's "her?" Does my avatar look female to you?

As far as the motor voter law, I've already proven that it excludes illegal aliens.

 

[Geaux4it]

California needs one good, strong, earthquake.. And I mean a strong one

-Geaux

 

[Syriusly]

counties like Los Angeles has gotten to the point where anyone who doesnt speak a word of english, can walk into a precinct and register.

Wow- so Los Angeles doesn't put stop voters from registering to vote if they are legal to register- but don't speak English?

How very American of Los Angeles.

 

[Syriusly]

California needs one good, strong, earthquake.. And I mean a strong one

-Geaux

Yeah- another Conservative who dreams of the death and destruction of America.

 

[Faun]

Go to the DMV site for California, follow the links for non citizens wanting to get a driver's licence ....it explains the process for them, and documentation needed...... the US Real I'D act initiated after 9/11 that all states must abide by, also forces states to give different drivers licences to non citizens, with restrictions tied to them....like not being able to vote......

Darlin please I LIVE here, read the Law.

Moron, here's what you posted but don't understand...

(d) The department shall not electronically provide records of a person who applies for or is issued a driver’s license pursuant to Section 12801.9 of the Vehicle Code because he or she is unable to submit satisfactory proof that his or her presence in the United States is authorized under federal law.​

How do you not understand the law you posted does not apply to people with an AB-60 driver's license?? It's in the very bill you cited. Exactly how rightarded are you? You actually posted the proof that illegals can't get registered to vote while you're bitching and moaning to the contrary.

 

[Faun]

Darlin please I LIVE here

And yet, you don't seem to know the law.....

Projection son. It's all there for you to see, do you need some help?

Yes, the law is here for you to see. So how come you still don't get it?

(d) The department shall not electronically provide records of a person who applies for or is issued a driver’s license pursuant to Section 12801.9 of the Vehicle Code because he or she is unable to submit satisfactory proof that his or her presence in the United States is authorized under federal law.​

 

[Faun]

ID is not required to register or to vote in CA.

To register you only need a utility bill or a pay stub, and you "attest" you are a citizen.

What could go wrong?

You're still lying. Proof of legal presence in the U.S. is required.

Not true. No ID is required to vote in CA. Just need to state your address. They do NOT confirm

-Geaux

Describe how......

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Voter Fraud is a Voting Rights violation because it denies another person's Right to Vote
The Democrats are against the Right to Vote.
The Democrats are not just wrong, they are bad.

 

[Geaux4it]

ID is not required to register or to vote in CA.

To register you only need a utility bill or a pay stub, and you "attest" you are a citizen.

What could go wrong?

You're still lying. Proof of legal presence in the U.S. is required.

Not true. No ID is required to vote in CA. Just need to state your address. They do NOT confirm

-Geaux

Describe how......

Describe how what?

-Geaux

 

[Faun]

ID is not required to register or to vote in CA.

To register you only need a utility bill or a pay stub, and you "attest" you are a citizen.

What could go wrong?

You're still lying. Proof of legal presence in the U.S. is required.

Not true. No ID is required to vote in CA. Just need to state your address. They do NOT confirm

-Geaux

Describe how......

Describe how what?

-Geaux

Describe what you claimed.... describe the process for how an individual votes in California with no ID....

 

[Zander]

ID is not required to register or to vote in CA.

To register you only need a utility bill or a pay stub, and you "attest" you are a citizen.

What could go wrong?

You're still lying. Proof of legal presence in the U.S. is required.

You're truly beyond stupid.

Nothing in California law requires proof of citizenship to register to vote. You attest. They take your word.

 

[Zander]

ID is not required to register or to vote in CA.

To register you only need a utility bill or a pay stub, and you "attest" you are a citizen.

What could go wrong?

You're still lying. Proof of legal presence in the U.S. is required.

Not true. No ID is required to vote in CA. Just need to state your address. They do NOT confirm

-Geaux

Describe how......

Describe how what?

-Geaux

Describe what you claimed.... describe the process for how an individual votes in California with no ID....

I've already done it, several times, and provided a link to online registration. But since you are apparently very slow.....

You register by mail. Fill the form out and leave the part that asks for your California ID, DL, or last 4 of your social security number blank. You attest that you are legally entitled to vote, sign the form and mail it in.

Then you show up on election day and vote. If they ask for ID (because you didn't fill out the ID section of the registration) all that is required is a utility bill or paystub with your name and address on it and VIOLA!! You can vote. That's it!

No identification is required at any of these steps. A utility bill is not an ID. A paycheck stub is not an ID.

Straight from the states website.....Where and How to Vote | California Secretary of State

Will I need to bring identification?
In most cases, California voters are not required to show identification at their polling place. However, it is a good idea to bring identification with you when you vote for the first time. A poll worker may ask to see your identification if you mailed your voter registration application and did not include your driver license number, California identification number, or the last four digits of your Social Security number.

A copy of a recent utility bill, the county Voter Information Guide you received from your county elections office, or another document sent to you by a government agency are examples of acceptable forms of identification. Other examples include your passport, driver license, official California identification card, or student identification card.​

 

[Faun]

ID is not required to register or to vote in CA.

To register you only need a utility bill or a pay stub, and you "attest" you are a citizen.

What could go wrong?

You're still lying. Proof of legal presence in the U.S. is required.

You're truly beyond stupid.

Nothing in California law requires proof of citizenship to register to vote. You attest. They take your word.

No, they don’t. Prove your claim...

 

[Zander]

ID is not required to register or to vote in CA.

To register you only need a utility bill or a pay stub, and you "attest" you are a citizen.

What could go wrong?

You're still lying. Proof of legal presence in the U.S. is required.

You're truly beyond stupid.

Nothing in California law requires proof of citizenship to register to vote. You attest. They take your word.

No, they don’t. Prove your claim...

See above, ignorant fool......

 

[Faun]

You're still lying. Proof of legal presence in the U.S. is required.

Not true. No ID is required to vote in CA. Just need to state your address. They do NOT confirm

-Geaux

Describe how......

Describe how what?

-Geaux

Describe what you claimed.... describe the process for how an individual votes in California with no ID....

I've already done it, several times, and provided a link to online registration. But since you are apparently very slow.....

You register by mail. Fill the form out and leave the part that asks for your California ID, DL, or last 4 of your social security number blank. You attest that you are legally entitled to vote, sign the form and mail it in.

Then you show up on election day and vote. If they ask for ID (because you didn't fill out the ID section of the registration) all that is required is a utility bill or paystub with your name and address on it and VIOLA!! You can vote. That's it!

No identification is required at any of these steps. A utility bill is not an ID. A paycheck stub is not an ID.

Straight from the states website.....Where and How to Vote | California Secretary of State

Will I need to bring identification?
In most cases, California voters are not required to show identification at their polling place. However, it is a good idea to bring identification with you when you vote for the first time. A poll worker may ask to see your identification if you mailed your voter registration application and did not include your driver license number, California identification number, or the last four digits of your Social Security number.

A copy of a recent utility bill, the county Voter Information Guide you received from your county elections office, or another document sent to you by a government agency are examples of acceptable forms of identification. Other examples include your passport, driver license, official California identification card, or student identification card.​

What the **** is wrong with you? Can’t you read??

On your link, it starts with, ”Any registered voter in California...”

You have to be registered to vote and illegal aliens can’t register.

You cons are dumber than dog shit. I sometimes wonder how natural selection hasn’t fixed this.

 

[Zander]

Not true. No ID is required to vote in CA. Just need to state your address. They do NOT confirm

-Geaux

Describe how......

Describe how what?

-Geaux

Describe what you claimed.... describe the process for how an individual votes in California with no ID....

I've already done it, several times, and provided a link to online registration. But since you are apparently very slow.....

You register by mail. Fill the form out and leave the part that asks for your California ID, DL, or last 4 of your social security number blank. You attest that you are legally entitled to vote, sign the form and mail it in.

Then you show up on election day and vote. If they ask for ID (because you didn't fill out the ID section of the registration) all that is required is a utility bill or paystub with your name and address on it and VIOLA!! You can vote. That's it!

No identification is required at any of these steps. A utility bill is not an ID. A paycheck stub is not an ID.

Straight from the states website.....Where and How to Vote | California Secretary of State

Will I need to bring identification?
In most cases, California voters are not required to show identification at their polling place. However, it is a good idea to bring identification with you when you vote for the first time. A poll worker may ask to see your identification if you mailed your voter registration application and did not include your driver license number, California identification number, or the last four digits of your Social Security number.

A copy of a recent utility bill, the county Voter Information Guide you received from your county elections office, or another document sent to you by a government agency are examples of acceptable forms of identification. Other examples include your passport, driver license, official California identification card, or student identification card.​

What the **** is wrong with you? Can’t you read??

On your link, it starts with, ”Any registered voter in California...”

You have to be registered to vote and illegal aliens can’t register.

You cons are dumber than dog shit. I sometimes wonder how natural selection hasn’t fixed this.

You're probably the dumbest person I've ever engaged with on this forum, and that says a lot.

 

[Faun]

Describe how......

Describe how what?

-Geaux

Describe what you claimed.... describe the process for how an individual votes in California with no ID....

I've already done it, several times, and provided a link to online registration. But since you are apparently very slow.....

You register by mail. Fill the form out and leave the part that asks for your California ID, DL, or last 4 of your social security number blank. You attest that you are legally entitled to vote, sign the form and mail it in.

Then you show up on election day and vote. If they ask for ID (because you didn't fill out the ID section of the registration) all that is required is a utility bill or paystub with your name and address on it and VIOLA!! You can vote. That's it!

No identification is required at any of these steps. A utility bill is not an ID. A paycheck stub is not an ID.

Straight from the states website.....Where and How to Vote | California Secretary of State

Will I need to bring identification?
In most cases, California voters are not required to show identification at their polling place. However, it is a good idea to bring identification with you when you vote for the first time. A poll worker may ask to see your identification if you mailed your voter registration application and did not include your driver license number, California identification number, or the last four digits of your Social Security number.

A copy of a recent utility bill, the county Voter Information Guide you received from your county elections office, or another document sent to you by a government agency are examples of acceptable forms of identification. Other examples include your passport, driver license, official California identification card, or student identification card.​

What the **** is wrong with you? Can’t you read??

On your link, it starts with, ”Any registered voter in California...”

You have to be registered to vote and illegal aliens can’t register.

You cons are dumber than dog shit. I sometimes wonder how natural selection hasn’t fixed this.

You're probably the dumbest person I've ever engaged with on this forum, and that says a lot.

Spits the idiot says illegal aliens can vote after posting a link showing "registered voters" can vote in a state where illegal aliens can't get registered to vote.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

What else do I have you ask?

"This bill would provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of the California New Motor Voter Program in the absence of a violation by that person of the crime described above, that person’s registration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person."

"The bill would also provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of this program, and that person votes or attempts to vote in an election held after the effective date of the person’s registration, that person shall be presumed to have acted with official authorization and is not guilty of fraudulently voting or attempting to vote, unless that person willfully votes or attempts to vote knowing that he or she is not entitled to vote.

No, no "cheating" here.

FYI
A California drivers licence for anyone undocumented or from a foreign nation, has a separate process to go through to get a license, with A special documentation process and can not get a driver's licence by simply standing in the line for citizens at the DMV.....they must make an appointment for their licences.....AND MOST importantly, are not automatically registered to vote....as With citizens.

Certain citizens can not get a license because of crime. Then why should a person that comes to the counter that is for illegals be allowed to garner a license that is set-up for illegals who by nature are criminals?

-Geaux

illegals who by nature are criminals?

Illegals are guilty of exactly one misdemeanor count of inhabiting space in this country without express permission.

Your feeble mind may label them as criminals but they really are no more criminal than you at any given time.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

counties like Los Angeles has gotten to the point where anyone who doesnt speak a word of english, can walk into a precinct and register.

Wow- so Los Angeles doesn't put stop voters from registering to vote if they are legal to register- but don't speak English?

How very American of Los Angeles.

There is no requirement for all to be English speaking.