A while back I started a thread asking the question, "when do the resignations begin?"

[berg80]

I looked for it but couldn't find it. Perhaps it was naive to think many people would quit given the time and effort P 2025 put in to find unwavering loyalists to serve under Don. But I'm still astonished at the lack of high profile people in the trump government refusing to go along with the immoral, illegal, unconstitutional actions it has taken.

Then I saw this. It was encouraging and disturbing at the same time.

Two-thirds of the DOJ unit defending Trump policies in court have quit​

WASHINGTON, July 14 (Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department unit charged with defending against legal challenges to signature Trump administration policies - such as restricting birthright citizenship and slashing funding to Harvard University - has lost nearly two-thirds of its staff, according to a list seen by Reuters.
Sixty-nine of the roughly 110 lawyers in the Federal Programs Branch have voluntarily left the unit since President Donald Trump's election in November or have announced plans to leave, according to the list compiled by former Justice Department lawyers and reviewed by Reuters.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/two-thirds-doj-unit-defending-trump-policies-court-have-quit-2025-07-14/

Basically, there are two ways to interpret this turn of events. One, the lawyers who resigned (in all likelihood ones who were employed by the DoJ pre-trump) could not in good conscience defend trump policies and maintain any degree personal integrity or fidelity to the Constitution. Two, good riddance to those deep state traitors who refused to do as they were told.

Those disparate views are representative of the divide between the two sides we find ourselves dealing with every day. And while I agree no organization can function efficiently with insubordinate employees refusing to obey instructions, I submit the problem isn't the disobedience but rather the instructions. Ethical attorneys with an allegiance to the rule of law are exactly the kind of people we want working for us. Their absence will make the country weaker, not better. As will the absence of the other members of the FBI and DoJ fired in a purge of officials who obeyed instructions to investigate criminals. One of whom happens to be the prez.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

‘Reuters spoke to four former lawyers in the unit and three other people familiar with the departures who said some staffers had grown demoralized and exhausted defending an onslaught of lawsuits against Trump's administration.

"Many of these people came to work at Federal Programs to defend aspects of our constitutional system," said one lawyer who left the unit during Trump's second term. "How could they participate in the project of tearing it down?"

Critics have accused the Trump administration of flouting the law in its aggressive use of executive power, including by retaliating against perceived enemies and dismantling agencies created by Congress.’ ibid

And as more good, honest people leave, it will become easier for Trump to tear down our Constitutional system, retaliate against perceived enemies, and dismantle agencies created by Congress.

It will take years to fix the damage caused by Trump, much of it irreparable.

 

[kyzr]

I looked for it but couldn't find it. Perhaps it was naive to think many people would quit given the time and effort P 2025 put in to find unwavering loyalists to serve under Don. But I'm still astonished at the lack of high profile people in the trump government refusing to go along with the immoral, illegal, unconstitutional actions it has taken. Then I saw this. It was encouraging and disturbing at the same time.

Two-thirds of the DOJ unit defending Trump policies in court have quit​

WASHINGTON, July 14 (Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department unit charged with defending against legal challenges to signature Trump administration policies - such as restricting birthright citizenship and slashing funding to Harvard University - has lost nearly two-thirds of its staff, according to a list seen by Reuters.
Sixty-nine of the roughly 110 lawyers in the Federal Programs Branch have voluntarily left the unit since President Donald Trump's election in November or have announced plans to leave, according to the list compiled by former Justice Department lawyers and reviewed by Reuters.

Basically, there are two ways to interpret this turn of events. One, the lawyers who resigned (in all likelihood ones who were employed by the DoJ pre-trump) could not in good conscience defend trump policies and maintain any degree personal integrity or fidelity to the Constitution. Two, good riddance to those deep state traitors who refused to do as they were told.

Those disparate views are representative of the divide between the two sides we find ourselves dealing with every day. And while I agree the no organization can function efficiently with insubordinate employees refusing to obey instructions, I submit the problem isn't the disobedience but rather the instructions. Ethical attorneys with an allegiance to the rule of law are exactly the kind of people we want working for us. Their absence will make the country weaker, not better. As will the absence of the other members of the FBI and DoJ fired in a purge of officials who obeyed instructions to investigate criminals. One of whom happens to be the prez.

Not surprising that the leftist lawyers would rather quit than carry the ball for Republican policies.

I'm sure there are many lawyers who would be glad to take their place.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

One of Trump's appointments gets in criminal trouble, he simply pardons them, and s/he continues in office.

 

[berg80]

And as more good, honest people leave, it will become easier for Trump to tear down our Constitutional system, retaliate against perceived enemies, and dismantle agencies created by Congress.

That is why I found the article to be disturbing. The more good people leave government service the larger the opportunity for trump to further corrupt the government with loyalist hacks in servitude to him........not the rule of law.

The task of the next prez to re-staff government agencies with people loyal to the country will be monumental in its scope.

 

[berg80]

Not surprising that the leftist lawyers would rather quit than carry the ball for Republican policies.

Your fallacious assumptions being all the lawyers who quit are "leftists" and the policies they objected to are "Republican" and not illegal.........though these days there is very little distinction to be made between the two.

 

[Darkwind]

It is amusing that the OP believes that the left are good people.

 

[kyzr]

Your fallacious assumptions being all the lawyers who quit are "leftists" and the policies they objected to are "Republican" and not illegal.........though these days there is very little distinction to be made between the two.

Any "illegal" policies would be stopped by the courts. Stop making excuses for unpopular democrat policies.
At a 19% approval rating democrats like you are preaching to the walls, not the voters.

 

[Mack The Finger]

Then I saw this. It was encouraging and disturbing at the same time.

Two-thirds of the DOJ unit defending Trump policies in court have quit​

It is a sad thing that I did read a few names of hacks that got shit can'd.

I'm sure there will be more in the future.

 

[berg80]

It is amusing that the OP believes that the left are good people.

I have no idea what the politics of the people who resigned are and neither do you. Their decisions appear to be based less on politics and more on trump's attempted violations of constitutional law.

 

[berg80]

Any "illegal" policies would be stopped by the courts. Stop making excuses for unpopular democrat policies.
At a 19% approval rating democrats like you are preaching to the walls, not the voters.

Don't be naive. trump has the conservatives on the SC backing him up.

 

[Darkwind]

I have no idea what the politics of the people who resigned are and neither do you. Their decisions appear to be based less on politics and more on trump's attempted violations of constitutional law.

Except that Trump has not violated anything and their reaction is a flashing sign that they are leftists.

Children too, by their actions.

Adults don't quiet and go home when they don't get their way.

 

[berg80]

democrats like you are preaching to the walls, not the voters.

I'm not preaching to anyone. I'm pointing out how many DoJ lawyers have quit in an act of rejection to the regime's illegality.

 

[kyzr]

Don't be naive. trump has the conservatives on the SC backing him up.

The ultimate arbiters of the "real LAW" is the USSC, not the bullshit "lawfare" democrats are using with hack judges.

 

[berg80]

Except that Trump has not violated anything and their reaction is a flashing sign that they are leftists.

Spoken like a blindly loyal trumple.

 

[kyzr]

I'm not preaching to anyone. I'm pointing out how many DoJ lawyers have quit in an act of rejection to the regime's illegality.

What "illegality"?

 

[berg80]

"Any sanctimonious career bureaucrat expressing faux outrage over the President’s policies while sitting idly by during the rank weaponization by the previous administration has no grounds to stand on," White House spokesperson Harrison Fields said in a statement.

That fits nicely under the heading of another thread I started, "the disorienting nature of gaslighting." There was no weaponization under the prior admin. There was prosecution of criminal acts committed by criminals.

 

[Darkwind]

Spoken like a blindly loyal trumple.

Too funny.

How long has it been that you've been blindly loyal to the evil and failed ideology?

 

[berg80]

What "illegality"?

Well, one example is the violation of Boasberg's court order regarding the deportation of immigrants to El Salvador. Which leads me to mention trump's corruption of the judicial system as evidenced by two of his hack lackeys throwing out Boasberg's contempt citation for said violation.

“The order forces a coequal branch to choose between capitulating to an unlawful judicial order and subjecting its officials to a dubious prosecution,” wrote U.S. Circuit Judge Neomi Rao, who was in the majority.

Rao was joined by U.S. Circuit Judge Gregory Katsas, both Trump appointees.

https://thehill.com/homenews/5443128-appeals-court-scraps-trump-contempt/

 

[kyzr]

Well, one example is the violation of Boasberg's court order regarding the deportation of immigrants to El Salvador. Which leads me to mention trump's corruption of the judicial system as evidenced by two of his hack lackeys throwing out Boasberg's contempt citation for said violation.
“The order forces a coequal branch to choose between capitulating to an unlawful judicial order and subjecting its officials to a dubious prosecution,” wrote U.S. Circuit Judge Neomi Rao, who was in the majority.
Rao was joined by U.S. Circuit Judge Gregory Katsas, both Trump appointees.

All you have are lies. Boasberg's illegal order was "quashed" by real judges

MSN

www.msn.com

Appeals court panel quashes Judge Boasberg’s contempt proceedings over Alien Enemies Act deportations​

So you have ZERO ILLEGALITIES