A Utah State currency and preventing the 2026 to 2036 Bear Market?

Could a Utah State "Volunteerism Dollar" be used to prevent Bear Market 2026 to 2036?

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There is a rather old Latter day Saint prediction that I believe could be useful over the coming decade in preventing a Bear Market as well as the "Dystopian Nightmare" predicted by the rather brilliant Mo Gawdat?


Could a Utah State Volunteerism Dollar and - or a Utah State Volunteerism Hour alternative currency note be used to flip Wall Street and the T. S. E. away from Pessimism and toward Optimism?


President Trump may not like this idea though because Mr. Mitt Romney and him have NOT been on the best of terms but it is obvious that President Donald J. Trump is in a position to pass a script to Mr. Mitt Romney, [and Mr. Romney is not exactly in a great position to turn down the President of the United States if President Trump and his advisors tend to like this general idea?

Judith Freeman

Will Mitt Romney fulfill a Mormon ‘prophecy’ and save the Constitution?​




“One day,” we were told, “the Constitution of the United States will hang by a thread and a Mormon, or group of Mormons, will save the nation.”

This was not a casual statement. It was repeated over and over, year after year, in Mormon congregations across the land; it wasn’t only Mitt and I who heard it. It didn’t matter if you grew up like Mitt, the privileged son of the governor of Michigan; or like me, the daughter of a shoe salesman in Ogden, Utah; or like my friend Rae, the child of ranchers moving sheep around the West. This is what we were all taught — that one day the U.S. Constitution, revered by Mormons as a document inspired by God, would become so deeply endangered and torn asunder that it would also tear the nation apart, and it would be up to Mormons in powerful positions to save us.

This prediction had a name, the White Horse Prophecy, and it was supposedly uttered by the founding prophet of the church, Joseph Smith, in 1843, words he was said to have pronounced while he stood before a copy of the apocalyptic painting “Death on a Pale Horse” by the artist Benjamin West.

While the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints officially distances itself from the prediction, it can’t be disputed that for years it was repeated by bishops, prophets and leading Mormon politicians, including Ezra Taft Benson, Eisenhower’s secretary of Agriculture and later president of the church. Even Utah’s Orrin Hatch, now retired but the longest serving Republican senator in U.S. history, has referred to it in the past.



Mitt Romney’s father, George, said in 1967, when he was a U.S. presidential candidate, that “the question of whether we are going to proceed on the basis of the Constitution would arise and at this point government leaders who were Mormons would be involved in answering the question.”

Mitt Romney must be thinking about Mormons and threads at this extremely dangerous moment in our country’s history. I don’t see how he could help it. The White Horse Prophecy is not the sort of thing you forget, even if, like me, you have long since left the faith. Romney, after all, is the most recognized Mormon on the planet, who also happens to hold a seat in the U.S. Senate where an impeachment trial would be held, a position of power foretold.



Here is what we are all up against and I do not believe that any of us should turn down assistance from Latter day Saints who were known to be astonishingly generous and helpful to the survivors of Hurrican Katrina, [and every other natural or not so natural disaster that the United States has experienced in these last five decades]!




"Ex-Google Exec (WARNING): The Next 15 Years Will Be Hell Before We Get To Heaven! - Mo Gawdat"

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Mo Gawdat sounded the alarm on AI, and now he’s back with an even bigger warning: AI will cause global collapse, destroy jobs, and launch us into a 15-year dystopia that will change everything. Mo Gawdat is back!

Mo Gawdat is the former Chief Business Officer at Google X and one of the world’s leading voices on AI, happiness, and the future of humanity. In 2017, he launched ‘One Billion Happy’, a global campaign to teach 1 billion people how to become happier using science and emotional tools. He is also the bestselling author of books such as, ‘Scary Smart, Solve for Happy’.

He explains:

▫️Why we need to start preparing today for AI
▫️How all jobs will be gone by 2037
▫️Why we must replace world leaders with AI
▫️How AI will destroy capitalism
▫️The one belief system that could save humanity from dystopia


I should let you all know about this man, Christian author Rick Joyner who, although he is not a Latter day Saint, he takes that Mormon prophecy very seriously.


 
One of the extremely interesting predictions that I have heard over these past few years is that there is astonishing technology hidden underground in the State of Utah that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus wants released so that we will soon understand that inventor Nikola Tesla was correct about his theories.

I do believe that it is the will of our Creator that we even have the updated Stanley Meyer hydrogen fuel dune buggy that has been taken to a whole other level than what inventor Stanley Meyer had accomplished before he was murdered.

A hydrogen fuel dune buggy being used in nations with lots of desert would naturally tend to increase humidity in desert regions so that the deserts would turn green. Stanley Meyer's hydrogen fuel dune buggy got about a hundred miles per gallon on TAP WATER and the exhaust was steam, [which would be so helpful in every nation with lots of desert].

I believe that the God of Abraham allowed Mr. Charlie Kirk to be martyred in Utah, so that the people of Utah could mourn over Charlie Kirk, as if he had been a fellow Latter day Saint.

I suspect that this will be a symbolic fulfillment of something that will soon happen in the nation of Israel over the latter day "Christian Political Cyrus."


Mourning over Moshiach ben Yosef stems from Jewish tradition, where he is a figure who will be killed in battle before the full redemption is achieved. This death is the subject of great sorrow, described in the Talmud (Sukkah 52a) as a "great eulogy in Jerusalem" and as mourning for an "only child". The mourning signifies that both the spiritual and material aspects of the nation will recognize the need to be united, as the division between them is a cause for his tragic death




I believe that Latter day Saints and former Latter day Saints will have a special ability to understand the following insight on Isaiah chapter forty five by a near death experiencer from Uganda?


Eporu Ronald Alfred

Kakira Deliverance Church,
P.O. Box 3191, Kakira, Jinja, Uganda

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Dear brethren,
I salute you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!

RE: SHARING NEW DISCOVERIES OF THE TRUTH IN BIBLE PROPHECY CONCERNING THE IMMINENT HEALING AND UNITY OF THE CHURCH

I am mesmerized by the truth in bible prophecy that the Spirit of God has been revealing over the recent years. Secret things belong to God and those that are revealed belong to us and our children... (Deut 29: 29).

1. King Cyrus the great ruled his country 555 years Before Christ i.e. from 576 BC to 530 BC and authorised the rebuilding of the second temple in Jerusalem. Cyrus of the Old Testament is hence associated with the number 555 and is the shadow figure of incoming Cyrus II of the New Testament. You may learn more about his history from the internet and scriptures. This new truth enables us to identify the leadership of the world that will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem as prophesied in book of Isaiah before the rise of antichrist. Cyrus II is coming to revive the evangelical/Pentecostal church in Jerusalem and restore the headquarters of the church in same city where the church was born. He is set to strip Babylon of the vessels of the temple and the name of the Lord God and transfer that crown back to Jerusalem thus leaving Babylon naked. Cyrus will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem in fulfilment of the prophecy of Jesus as written in the book of John 2:18-23 and the prophecy of Isaiah as written in chapters 40, 41, 45 and 47 of the book of Isaiah. Jesus regarded the temple as the symbol of his own body while saying that he had the power to lay it down on the first day (1st millennium) and rebuild or raise it up on the 3rd day (3rd millennium). Remember that one day in the eyes of God is the same as one thousand years (millennium) as stated in book of 2 Peter 3:8. Rebuilding of the temple is thus associated with unification of the church.

Cyrus II will rebuild the temple in honour of our lord Jesus Christ. The temple will be the unifying (rallying) point of the world wide evangelical church as the original headquarters of the church. Psalms133 denotes that there is such a powerful anointing that comes along with unity among brethren. Unification of the whole body of Jesus Christ will make the church so powerful that she will overrun the world within a short time before the return of our lord Jesus Christ. A divided church is a powerless church whereas a united church is a powerful church. The church can only be able to fulfil her ultimate mission of revealing Jesus to the world once we get united as one body of Jesus Christ following his last prayer for his disciples as written in John 17:20-23.

Cyrus II will erase that false image of Jesus that the counterfeit and Idolatrous state church of Babylon has been projecting around the world and revive the original church that projects the true brilliant image of Jesus Christ. Haggai 2:9 says that the glory of the latter church (temple) will be greater than the glory of the former church (temple).The rise of Cyrus will also usher in the ultimate fulfilment of the prophecy of Joel 2:28 where God intends to pour out His Spirit on all flesh in these last days. The era of Cyrus brings the gentile period of grace to its close and leads to the restoration of the Jewish period of grace and salvation.




2. King Manasseh was the shadow figure (forerunner) of the antichrist in the Old Testament who ruled over Jerusalem exactly 666 years Before Christ i.e. from 697 BC to 642 BC. (2 chronicle 33: 1-2 and 2 kings 21: 1-17). Antichrist is associated with the number 666 as written in the book of Revelation 13:18. Manasseh was the most evil king to have ever ruled over the city of Jerusalem and kingdom of Judah.

Manasseh is reported to have killed so many innocent people in Jerusalem that the streets of Jerusalem were flowing with blood; he worshiped pagan idols and stars; he built pagan alters for idols and stars in the very courtyards of the temple; he sacrificed his sons to idols; he consulted diviners and mediums; he even set up an abominable pagan image at the temple that causes desolation just as the incoming antichrist will do. It was on that basis that God decided to have that first temple destroyed completely since Manasseh had desecrated it.



3. Prophet Jonah was the shadow figure (forerunner) of Jesus Christ in the Old Testament who undertook his prophetic ministry around 777 B.C. Prophet Jonah is hence associated with the number 777. He arose from the shadow and demise of Prophet Elisha. His preaching radiated such great power and authority that turned the city of Nineveh as the rising super power of that time up side down within 3 days only (read the book of Jonah). Jonah was the prophetic force behind the restoration of the lost territories of Israel in the reign of King Jeroboam II of Israel between 782 BC and 741 BC as written in II Kings 14:25. Jonah related with God more or less as his own father and God loved him more or less as His own son. He volunteered to die save occupants of the ship and was raised to life after three days just like Jesus Christ. Jesus compared himself with Jonah as his forerunner in the Old Testament as far as his earthly ministry, death and resurrection was concerned in Mathew 12; 38-41, Luke 11; 29-32. Jesus will also oversee the restoration of the lost territories of Israel just like prophet Jonah when he comes to rule as the king of kings and Lord of Lords. We can therefore correctly associate Jesus Christ with the number 777 just like Jonah as our commander-in-chief, Lord of the Sabbath and fountain of life.

The more we know where we came from the more we know where we are going. You are cordially invited to visit my face book home page for more information and messages. Feel free to share this truth with other brethren just as I received it free of charge from God.

Your brother in Christ

Eporu Ronald
Scientist & Minister of Bible Prophecy


I believe that Mr. Mitt Romney is supposed to assist President Trump to complete certain missions that some of President Trump's advisors may not be ready to handle yet.


If Mitt Romney will repent for being so competitive toward President Trump he will come to understand what was shown to the gifted Mark Taylor way back in 2011.







Mr. Mark Taylor :
4-28-11 Commander in Chief

The Spirit of God says, I have chosen this man, Donald Trump, for such a time as this. For as Benjamin Netanyahu is to lsrael, so shall this man be to the United States of America! For I will use this man to bring honor, respect and restoration to America. America will be respected once again as the most powerful and prosperous nation on earth, (other than lsrael). The dollar will be the strongest it has ever been in the history of the United States, and will once again be the currency by which all others are judged.


The Spirit of God says, the enemy will quake and shake and fear this man I have anointed. They will even quake and shake when he announces he is running for president, it will be like the shot heard across the world. The enemy will say what shall we do now? This man knows all our tricks and schemes. We have been robbing America for decades, what shall we do to stop this? The Spirit says HA! No one shall stop this that lhave started! Forthe enemy has stolen from America fordecades and it stops now! For I will use this man to reap the harvest that the United States has sown for and plunder from the enemy what he has stolen and return it 7 fold back to the United States. The enemy will say lsrael, lsrael, what about lsrael? For lsrael will be protected by America once again. The spirit says yes! America will once again stand hand and hand with lsrael, and the two shall be as one. For the ties between lsrael and America will be stronger than ever, and lsrael will flourish like never before.


The Spirit of God says, I will protect America and lsrael, for this next president will be a man of his word, when he speaks the world will listen and know that there is something greater in him than all the others before him. This man's word is his bond and the world and America will know this and the enemy will fear this, for this man will be fearless. The Spirit says, when the financial harvest begins so shall it parallel in the spiritual for America.


The Spirit of God says, in this next election they will spend billions to keep this president in; it will be like flushing their money down the toilet. Let them waist their money, for it comes from and it is being used by evil forces at work, but they will not succeed, for this next election will be a clean sweep for the man I have chosen. They will say things about this man (the enemy), but it will not affect him, and they shall say it rolls off of him like the duck, for as the feathers of a duck protect it, so shall my feathers protect this next president. Even mainstream news media will be captivated by this man and the abilities that I have gifted him with, and they will even begin to agree with him says the Spirit of God." (Mr. Mark Taylor, April 28, 2011)


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Here is a song that can stir the hearts of everybody living in Utah, or originally from Utah, no matter where they have moved to later on in life.





Here is a website that will help the residents of Utah make an interesting connection to the CHEROKEE PEOPLE!




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Intensified attention to the subject took place in the 17th century in England. It was all due to the writings of Manasseh Ben Israel, an Amsterdam Rabbi, who convinced Oliver Cromwell to allow the Jews to Return to England after their banishment from that country four centuries previously.

Manasseh was fully convinced of the authenticity of the Sambatyon legend. He wrote in his book that all think that the Ten Tribes dwelled beyond this Sabbatical river. He cites many authorities in support of his belief including the statement of Josephus that Titus himself had seen the river. Later on, after his meetings with a remarkable missionary, the Marrano Jew (Jew who was forced to convert to Christianity in Spain and Portugal), Antonio de Montezinus, he became fully convinced that the American Indians constituted some of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel.

Manasseh heard a very remarkable thing from Montezinus that in 1642 when Montezinus was deep into the mountainous wilderness of Ecuador, he met with four Indians who greeted him with "Shema Israel" which is the traditional creed of Israelites beginning with "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one!" (Deuteronomy 6:4). He claimed that he spoke with them in Hebrew and claimed they were from the Lost Tribe of Reuben and Levi.

Through the conversation with Montezinus, Rabbi Manase Ben Israel was convinced that the American Indians were from several tribes of the Lost Tribes of Israel. He wrote on Dec. 23, 1649, in a letter to John Drury, the Puritan divine, "I think the Ten Tribes lived not only there in America, but also in other lands scattered everywhere, these never did come back to the second temple, and they keep to this day still the Jewish religion seeing that all the prophecies which speak of the bringing back into their native soil must be fulfilled."

Menorah Was Found in South America

As for the Indians in South America and the Lost Tribes of Israel, there was an interesting article in a newspaper published in Israel (Maariv, Dec 31, 1974) as follows:

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In 1587, a Jesuit Nicholas Delttsu was sent to South America by the king of Spain to convert the Indians. In Argentina, he found a tribe with Hebrew names, Abraham, David, Moshe, etc.. When he asked them if they were circumcised, they answered, "Yes, just as our ancestors." In the same area were found knives of stone used for circumcision. Sharpened stone knives are cited in the Bible as used for circumcision.

Of equal interest is the recent find of a tribe in Argentina related to the Incas of Peru. On a stone tablet were found 3 commandments - "Do not steal." "Do not lie." and "Do not murder." Scholars concluded that these commandments come from the Ten Commandments of Moses but existed hundreds of years before the Spaniards arrived.

And in 1974 in the same area, round stones were found with Hebrew Menorah (candlestick with 7 arms of ancient Israel) on the stone, and on the side is written in Aramaic, Pascha (Passover). Aramaic is an ancient language which ancient Israelites used and this itself means very old.
A few meters away was found a long stone in the shape of a brick with an engraving of a boat (the emblem of Zevulun is ship) with the word Tzipora (the same name as the wife of Moses and one of names of Israelites. The name of the ship?) written on it. Does this mean that they came here on boat? Scholars believe it is 3000 years old.
 
Near death experiencer Robert Mendelson only seems to have one major weakness in his ability to debate with me. He is gifted and he thinks that he knows what I am saying because he has heard other people make similar statements to what I make.......
but.... he is incorect.....
What I am advocating is not exactly like what any other writer that he knows of is actually advocating or calling for.......
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"God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land by near death experiencer Robert Mendelson has already been translated into both Arabic as well as Hebrew from the original English.

I have spoken to Robert by phone and he speaks and writes like somebody who has multiple doctoral degrees. For example he could debate History, Economics, Spirituality, Philosophy and the subject of bringing Shalom to the Middle East with doctoral level professionals in all of those fields."

 
If my theory has some validity that the vastly improved Stanley Meyer hydrogen fuel dune buggy technology is hidden underground in UTAH.... then Utah has the technology that can turn the deserts of North Africa and the Middle East GREEN with trees and plants!



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But the whole thing got really complicated by the time that Mr. Al Gore's film "An Inconvenient Truth" set the stage for Mr. Bill Gates to do his rather infamous lecture "Innovating to zero" in 2010.

A down to earth and practical solution to preventing ocean levels from rising, such as deliberately turning deserts green, COULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO BE UNDERSTOOD, if The Eruv Rav, The High Cabal, The Neo-Malthusians were to succeed in their goals to save the world's environment from overly productive Americans and Canadians and Australians and Brits.. and... and... and... and ... and!

I have reason to believe that the Stanley Meyer hydrogen fuel dune buggy has been perfected and if it were to be made public, the exhaust from the new and improved Stanley Meyer dune buggy, could turn the deserts of the Islamic world green BECAUSE STANLEY MEYER'S DUNE BUGGY GOT ONE HUNDRED MILES PER GALLON ON TAP WATER, AND H2O GAS WAS THE EXHAUST!

Adding a lot of H2O gas to the atmosphere of North Africa and the Middle East would soon TURN THE DESERTS OF THE ISLAMIC WORLD GREEN!


It is a really good thing that I put this discussion in the "Conspiracy Forum" because I have reason to believe that the vastly improved Stanley Meyer technology is hidden in massive underground facilities in UTAH!

Satan was allowed to "Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk" in UTAH for many, many, many, many positive reasons!"

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