A ten foot poll

[Trakar]

Looks to me like you mean "petrophiles," who would rather die in your own wastes instead of advancing into the twenty-first century.

Hydrocarbons propelled mankind into the modern era and have allowed us to live longer and fuller lives.

You'd rather we ride bicycles? That would make you a pedo-file.

Horses were once the basis of wealth and mobility. Hydrocarbons are going in the same direction.

Coal and petrochemicals, the modern era whale oil.

 

[Mr. H.]

Hydrocarbons propelled mankind into the modern era and have allowed us to live longer and fuller lives.

You'd rather we ride bicycles? That would make you a pedo-file.

Horses were once the basis of wealth and mobility. Hydrocarbons are going in the same direction.

Coal and petrochemicals, the modern era whale oil.

We didn't transition from whale oil or horses by slaughtering all the whales and horses.

Enviro-Libs are out to slaughter hydrocarbons by taxing and regulating it to non-existant status in order to fund technologies that could never replace those hydrocarbons in their entirety.

 

[Trakar]

Horses were once the basis of wealth and mobility. Hydrocarbons are going in the same direction.

Coal and petrochemicals, the modern era whale oil.

We didn't transition from whale oil or horses by slaughtering all the whales and horses.

Enviro-Libs are out to slaughter hydrocarbons by taxing and regulating it to non-existant status in order to fund technologies that could never replace those hydrocarbons in their entirety.

There are still unique uses and opportunities for whale oil, it simply isn't as broadly valuable, for a variety of reasons, once all of its extrenalities have been properly captured and accounted for by regulation and taxation, for the purposes of generating lantern and lamp fuel.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Except for California who allowed enviro idiots, who reeeeeally didn't know anything, to get MTBE added to the gasoline which polluted thousands of water wells throughout the state.

Boy,what a wonderful job they did. Had that been an oil company that did it the fines would be astronomical, butg, as it was done "to make things better" the perps get a free pass even though they did more damage than any oil company ever has.

Fools.

That too was an issue of containment. MTBE was railroaded out of the equation by the very powerful and influential agriculture lobby in order to clear the way for ethanol. Now it is ethanol polluting groundwater along with ag practices of the last several decades.

That's absolutely true. However ethanol will at least oxidise away in a relatively short time, MTBE sticks around for decades at least. Here in Tahoe there are over 100 wells contaminated by MTBE that can't be used till they find a way to get rid of the shit. All the while they talk about Tahoe's clarity they are poisoning the land around it.

Utter idiots who claim to be scientifically literate but every move they make exposes them for the frauds they are.

Current event on MTBE:

CONCORD, N.H.: Testimony begins in MTBE pollution case in NH - Nation Wires - MiamiHerald.com

 

[Old Rocks]

CONCORD, N.H.: Testimony begins in MTBE pollution case in NH - Nation Wires - MiamiHerald.com

CONCORD, N.H. -- Lawyers for the state of New Hampshire and petroleum giants ExxonMobil and Citgo mocked their opponents' evidence and disparaged their witnesses for a second day Tuesday as they prepared jurors for a long, contentious trial over the gasoline additive MTBE

Read more here: CONCORD, N.H.: Testimony begins in MTBE pollution case in NH - Nation Wires - MiamiHerald.com

Now isn't this just amazing. All the fruitloops here blaming the environmentalists for MTBE, and guess who is in court because of it's use, and defending it's use. As usual, our fruitloops lie a lot.

 

[westwall]

CONCORD, N.H.: Testimony begins in MTBE pollution case in NH - Nation Wires - MiamiHerald.com

CONCORD, N.H. -- Lawyers for the state of New Hampshire and petroleum giants ExxonMobil and Citgo mocked their opponents' evidence and disparaged their witnesses for a second day Tuesday as they prepared jurors for a long, contentious trial over the gasoline additive MTBE

Read more here: CONCORD, N.H.: Testimony begins in MTBE pollution case in NH - Nation Wires - MiamiHerald.com

Now isn't this just amazing. All the fruitloops here blaming the environmentalists for MTBE, and guess who is in court because of it's use, and defending it's use. As usual, our fruitloops lie a lot.

Atually, if you look through the prior posts you will find I quite early called out the oil companies for the adding of MTBE to gasoline. First though, they had to convince scientifically illiterate doofi...such as yourself, in the environmental arena, to lobby the CARB so that the CARB would mandate its use as an additive.

Dr. Bill Wattenberg has a very good timeline dealing with the whole fiasco on this site


KILLCARB.ORG - DR. Bill Essay

 

[Old Rocks]

OT ~ Dr. Bill Wattenburg On Quick Build Of Nuclear Power and Oil

The anti-nuclear fanatics and environmental frauds organizations set up this nation to be blackmailed by the oil producing countries. Thirty years ago, they killed all expansion and development of nuclear power in this country by spreading scare stories that are whole cloth lies. And they persist today. There has been only one serious nuclear accident in the U.S. in over forty years, Three Mile Island . It was caused by idiot operators who deliberately shut down the safety equipment in the plant. This caused the plant to be destroyed, but no damage to the surrounding population. The billion-dollar containment dome over the nuclear reactor contained all radioactivity, just as it was designed to do. After Three Mile Island , the anti-nuclear fanatics forced this nation to build hundreds of filthy coal burning power plants to supply this nation’s energy needs. They loaded our atmosphere with billions of tons of greenhouse gases and thousands of tons of radioactive elements from
the coal burning power plants. Much the same environmental fear mongers and frauds als demanded that we put most of our oil resources off limits to drilling and production. This has left us totally dependent on oil from overseas for two-thirds of our needs.

Interesting. Sounds like Dr. Wattenburg has a pretty realistic position on global warming, and the externalities of coal fired generation.

 

[westwall]

OT ~ Dr. Bill Wattenburg On Quick Build Of Nuclear Power and Oil

The anti-nuclear fanatics and environmental frauds organizations set up this nation to be blackmailed by the oil producing countries. Thirty years ago, they killed all expansion and development of nuclear power in this country by spreading scare stories that are whole cloth lies. And they persist today. There has been only one serious nuclear accident in the U.S. in over forty years, Three Mile Island . It was caused by idiot operators who deliberately shut down the safety equipment in the plant. This caused the plant to be destroyed, but no damage to the surrounding population. The billion-dollar containment dome over the nuclear reactor contained all radioactivity, just as it was designed to do. After Three Mile Island , the anti-nuclear fanatics forced this nation to build hundreds of filthy coal burning power plants to supply this nation’s energy needs. They loaded our atmosphere with billions of tons of greenhouse gases and thousands of tons of radioactive elements from
the coal burning power plants. Much the same environmental fear mongers and frauds als demanded that we put most of our oil resources off limits to drilling and production. This has left us totally dependent on oil from overseas for two-thirds of our needs.

Interesting. Sounds like Dr. Wattenburg has a pretty realistic position on global warming, and the externalities of coal fired generation.

Yeah, he's since come over to the sceptic side when he was introduced to CLIMATEGATE.