A Temporary “State of Emergency”

[BoSoxGal]

Everybody ought to recognize that the actions to restrict temporarily Trump’s social media access, to remove him from power by the Cabinet or via Impeachment, are essentially emergency measures being taken by various private and public authorities. We are living through an exceptional situation where the President has shown he may not only refuse to leave the White House, but he may use his podium to encourage his followers to create a situation where the passing of power to the new President-Elect is impossible. Trump still formally controls the army and many levers of power. He certainly may repeat his call for a mass demonstration to “Stop the Steal” on Jan. 20th.

After the Orange disgrace is safely out of the White House, and while prosecutions continue of every damn violent invader of the U.S. Congress Building that can be identified, a relaxation of private social media controls should occur.

In any case private “social media” cannot long seriously restrict Conservative and Republican opinions, since in any case new social media will evolve to fill any need. Serious negotiations about restricting Section 230 for anti-trust purposes should occur. The left and right were moving in this direction earlier.

But like the attack on 9/11, this pathetic and illegal Trumpster “insurrection” has potentially thrown us more deeply into the control of a “Security State.” This is not good ultimately for those of us (on the left) who are fighting against our government “of the corporations, by the corporations and for the corporations.”

Will the procesutor also look for the Capitol police who opened the front door for the Antifa guys?

They’re being investigated, fired and arrested as we speak.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Republicans should resurrect the House of Unamerican Activities and start prosecuting communists.

 

[whitehall]

Public and private authorities? What role did we give anonymous "private" authorities in the removal of the President of the United States?

 

[HenryBHough]

I do believe that when President Trump leaves The (once) White House he is unlikely to strip away the furnishing as did Clinton and Obama.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Public and private authorities? What role did we give anonymous "private" authorities in the removal of the President of the United States?

They, like every citizen, are entitled to act when they see our democracy and Republican institutions threatened by a President who threatens to refuse to leave office after a legal and 50-state-joint-Congressional-Session-confirmed electoral defeat.

 

[OldLady]

Everybody ought to recognize that the actions to restrict temporarily Trump’s social media access, to remove him from power by the Cabinet or via Impeachment, are essentially emergency measures being taken by various private and public authorities. We are living through an exceptional situation where the President has shown he may not only refuse to leave the White House, but he may use his podium to encourage his followers to create a situation where the passing of power to the new President-Elect is impossible. Trump still formally controls the army and many levers of power. He certainly may repeat his call for a mass demonstration to “Stop the Steal” on Jan. 20th.

After the Orange disgrace is safely out of the White House, and while prosecutions continue of every damn violent invader of the U.S. Congress Building that can be identified, a relaxation of private social media controls should occur.

In any case private “social media” cannot long seriously restrict Conservative and Republican opinions, since in any case new social media will evolve to fill any need. Serious negotiations about restricting Section 230 for anti-trust purposes should occur. The left and right were moving in this direction earlier.

But like the attack on 9/11, this pathetic and illegal Trumpster “insurrection” has potentially thrown us more deeply into the control of a “Security State.” This is not good ultimately for those of us (on the left) who are fighting against our government “of the corporations, by the corporations and for the corporations.”

Checkmate.

JUST IN - President Trump declares an emergency exists in the District of Columbia in DC. pic.twitter.com/7Blq0vHRNJ
— Disclose.tv \uD83D\uDEA8 (@disclosetv) January 12, 2021

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"President Donald J. Trump Approves District of Columbia Emergency Declaration
January 11, 2021
Today, President Donald J. Trump declared that an emergency exists in the District of Columbia and ordered Federal assistance to supplement the District’s response efforts due to the emergency conditions resulting from the 59th Presidential Inauguration from January 11 to January 24, 2021.

The President’s action authorizes the Department of Homeland Security, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), to coordinate all disaster relief efforts which have the purpose of alleviating the hardship and suffering caused by the emergency on the local population, and to provide appropriate assistance for required emergency measures, authorized under Title V of the Stafford Act, to save lives and to protect property and public health and safety, and to lessen or avert the threat of a catastrophe in the District of Columbia.

Specifically, FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency. Emergency protective measures, limited to direct Federal assistance, will be provided at 100 percent Federal funding.

Pete Gaynor, Administrator, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), Department of Homeland Security, named Thomas J. Fargione as the Federal Coordinating Officer for Federal recovery operations in the affected area."

It's a precaution that allows Homeland Security to help out if there is another riot. They're not going to get caught with their pants down again.

Trump declares state of emergency in D.C. ahead of inauguration

The order, stemming from last week’s deadly riots at the Capitol, allows DHS and FEMA to assist the city in any emergency response.

www.politico.com

Uh......just how in the fuck can you say that when we've seen riots all over the country the last year?
If this is sedition how are they going to know where the next attack will be?

FYI, Biden was prepping for this shit a couple of weeks ago by tearing down the viewing stand for the inauguration parade.

So what do you think it's for?

 

[mudwhistle]

Everybody ought to recognize that the actions to restrict temporarily Trump’s social media access, to remove him from power by the Cabinet or via Impeachment, are essentially emergency measures being taken by various private and public authorities. We are living through an exceptional situation where the President has shown he may not only refuse to leave the White House, but he may use his podium to encourage his followers to create a situation where the passing of power to the new President-Elect is impossible. Trump still formally controls the army and many levers of power. He certainly may repeat his call for a mass demonstration to “Stop the Steal” on Jan. 20th.

After the Orange disgrace is safely out of the White House, and while prosecutions continue of every damn violent invader of the U.S. Congress Building that can be identified, a relaxation of private social media controls should occur.

In any case private “social media” cannot long seriously restrict Conservative and Republican opinions, since in any case new social media will evolve to fill any need. Serious negotiations about restricting Section 230 for anti-trust purposes should occur. The left and right were moving in this direction earlier.

But like the attack on 9/11, this pathetic and illegal Trumpster “insurrection” has potentially thrown us more deeply into the control of a “Security State.” This is not good ultimately for those of us (on the left) who are fighting against our government “of the corporations, by the corporations and for the corporations.”

Checkmate.

JUST IN - President Trump declares an emergency exists in the District of Columbia in DC. pic.twitter.com/7Blq0vHRNJ
— Disclose.tv \uD83D\uDEA8 (@disclosetv) January 12, 2021

View attachment 441494

"President Donald J. Trump Approves District of Columbia Emergency Declaration
January 11, 2021
Today, President Donald J. Trump declared that an emergency exists in the District of Columbia and ordered Federal assistance to supplement the District’s response efforts due to the emergency conditions resulting from the 59th Presidential Inauguration from January 11 to January 24, 2021.

The President’s action authorizes the Department of Homeland Security, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), to coordinate all disaster relief efforts which have the purpose of alleviating the hardship and suffering caused by the emergency on the local population, and to provide appropriate assistance for required emergency measures, authorized under Title V of the Stafford Act, to save lives and to protect property and public health and safety, and to lessen or avert the threat of a catastrophe in the District of Columbia.

Specifically, FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency. Emergency protective measures, limited to direct Federal assistance, will be provided at 100 percent Federal funding.

Pete Gaynor, Administrator, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), Department of Homeland Security, named Thomas J. Fargione as the Federal Coordinating Officer for Federal recovery operations in the affected area."

It's a precaution that allows Homeland Security to help out if there is another riot. They're not going to get caught with their pants down again.

Trump declares state of emergency in D.C. ahead of inauguration

The order, stemming from last week’s deadly riots at the Capitol, allows DHS and FEMA to assist the city in any emergency response.

www.politico.com

Uh......just how in the fuck can you say that when we've seen riots all over the country the last year?
If this is sedition how are they going to know where the next attack will be?

FYI, Biden was prepping for this shit a couple of weeks ago by tearing down the viewing stand for the inauguration parade.

So what do you think it's for?

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[OldLady]

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Mud, I said the Emergency was to get more LE on board, and you said, "Uh......just how in the fuck can you say that when we've seen riots all over the country the last year?"

So, what do you think it was for, if not to bring more LE on board?

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

The danger remains, not only in small groups of well-armed militia or domestic terrorists backed potentially by much greater numbers of deluded “Stop the Steal!” Trump cultists, but of course also in the possibility that a new “Patriot Act” or calls for direct government censorship and control of social media may arise. All must be opposed vigorously.

I found this critical political view of mainstream liberals from a younger writer of an anti-imperialist civil liberties journal specializing in Latin America very much to the point:

“Even if Trump wanted to gracefully bow out of public life – an unlikely outcome – liberals would keep on flogging his dead horse, for Trump has been their greatest asset. And well the liberals need to hold on to the ghost of Trump, as being ‘not-Trump’ ... is their defining character. Their agenda consists of simply carrying forward the same basic program of neoliberalism at home (but with diversity) and imperialism abroad (but with responsibility to protect) as Trump ... only with more finesse.”