A Slow But Steady Genocide

[MJB12741]

How do like that? And here I never even knew that Jacob, Abraham, David and Solomon all converted to Islam. Please excuse me while I go tell all my neighbors. Amazing what we can learn here.


QUOTE=Hossfly;8956907]

Eh Monte, got news for you. The only indigenous Palestinians WERE JEWS. You see Monte, there were no Muslims at all until the 7th century AD, let alone any Muslim Palestinians. And the overwhelming number of today's "Paletinians" are squatters for generations already with no family deeds to the land they stole.

In fairness would you agree that a rational & moral solution to the land issue would be that all inhabitants who hold deeds to the land they reside on can stay & even become Israeli citizens if they have no Palestinian terrorist history & for all the squatters without deeds to the land it's --- so long, goodbye? LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

"Eh Monte, got news for you. The only indigenous Palestinians WERE JEWS. You see Monte, there were no Muslims at all until the 7th century AD, let alone any Muslim Palestinians. And the overwhelming number of today's "Paletinians" are squatters for generations already with no family deeds to the land they stole. "

There you go, posting propaganda.

As historians and DNA confirm, the Muslims and Christians of Palestine are descendants of the people that have lived there for over 2,000 years. At one time during the rule of Byzantium, before the Arab conquest, they were almost all Christians (the state religion) that converted from Judaism, Roman religions and others, and after the Arab conquest a great majority of these Christians converted to Islam, for obvious practical reasons. Some remained Christian and their offspring are the Palestinian Christians of today, mixed in with descendants of Crusader era Christians.

Do you include Jacob, Abraham, David and Solomon with all those people you mention as Muslims, Palestinians and Christians? Hell, those people and religions didn't even exist back in the days of the Elders. What kinds of history books were you taught from?[/QUOTE]

 

[Roudy]

Eh Monte, got news for you. The only indigenous Palestinians WERE JEWS. You see Monte, there were no Muslims at all until the 7th century AD, let alone any Muslim Palestinians. And the overwhelming number of today's "Paletinians" are squatters for generations already with no family deeds to the land they stole.

In fairness would you agree that a rational & moral solution to the land issue would be that all inhabitants who hold deeds to the land they reside on can stay & even become Israeli citizens if they have no Palestinian terrorist history & for all the squatters without deeds to the land it's --- so long, goodbye? LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

Again the Zionist propaganda. The Palestinians (Muslim and Christian) are the indigenous people of Palestine. They are converted descendants of the people that were under Roman rule at the time of Christ and earlier. The Jews on the other hand, are Europeans that began settling in Palestine, many as illegal immigrants, beginning in the late 19th century. So, it is perhaps the Europeans that should be given the right of return to where they came from. LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

"Eh Monte, got news for you. The only indigenous Palestinians WERE JEWS. You see Monte, there were no Muslims at all until the 7th century AD, let alone any Muslim Palestinians. And the overwhelming number of today's "Paletinians" are squatters for generations already with no family deeds to the land they stole. "

There you go, posting propaganda.

As historians and DNA confirm, the Muslims and Christians of Palestine are descendants of the people that have lived there for over 2,000 years. At one time during the rule of Byzantium, before the Arab conquest, they were almost all Christians (the state religion) that converted from Judaism, Roman religions and others, and after the Arab conquest a great majority of these Christians converted to Islam, for obvious practical reasons. Some remained Christian and their offspring are the Palestinian Christians of today, mixed in with descendants of Crusader era Christians.

There you go copying and pasting propaganda crap without having the integrity to post the link you copied from.

 

[Sally]

Well, you can study history or you can study fairy tales.

And then you can have the Muslims view of history. I actually don't care what Muslims believe as long as they aren't out to ham innocent people. Meanwhile, unless you are a Muslim, I don't think that others believe that Abraham actually dragged some huge, huge rock hundreds of miles from his home to Saudi Arabia. To me it is just a meteorte that fell to earth. However, if others want to believe that and pray to it, I have no problem.

Don't forget, Hossfly, that all those religious figures you mention are believed to be actually Muslims, and that we are all Muslims who will revert back to Islam.

What religious figures did I mention? I think you are confusing me with Hoss. I just said that one can study history, or one can believe in fairy tales like the Bible, the Koran etc.

You're right. I apologize. However, I have no problem with anyone believing in their Holy Books as long as they are tolerant to people of other religions and don't try to kill people because of their religious beliefs like we basically see in the Muslim world of today. And please don't deny this. They are not the only ones who have killed people because of there beliefs, but it appears that much of the murders because of religious beliefs are committed by Muslims these days.

 

[Roudy]

So to conclude according to the jokester posting lies and crap, the Arab Muslims are the really Jews with full rights to the ancient homeland of the Jews, and the Jews are fake, with no rights to ancient Israel, OR Arab lands. Do we have this right, Mohomod Latici? Ha ha ha ha.

 

[montelatici]

Eh Monte, got news for you. The only indigenous Palestinians WERE JEWS. You see Monte, there were no Muslims at all until the 7th century AD, let alone any Muslim Palestinians. And the overwhelming number of today's "Paletinians" are squatters for generations already with no family deeds to the land they stole.

In fairness would you agree that a rational & moral solution to the land issue would be that all inhabitants who hold deeds to the land they reside on can stay & even become Israeli citizens if they have no Palestinian terrorist history & for all the squatters without deeds to the land it's --- so long, goodbye? LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

"Eh Monte, got news for you. The only indigenous Palestinians WERE JEWS. You see Monte, there were no Muslims at all until the 7th century AD, let alone any Muslim Palestinians. And the overwhelming number of today's "Paletinians" are squatters for generations already with no family deeds to the land they stole. "

There you go, posting propaganda.

As historians and DNA confirm, the Muslims and Christians of Palestine are descendants of the people that have lived there for over 2,000 years. At one time during the rule of Byzantium, before the Arab conquest, they were almost all Christians (the state religion) that converted from Judaism, Roman religions and others, and after the Arab conquest a great majority of these Christians converted to Islam, for obvious practical reasons. Some remained Christian and their offspring are the Palestinian Christians of today, mixed in with descendants of Crusader era Christians.

There you copying and pasting propaganda crap without having the integrity to post the link you copied from.

I didn't copy it. I wrote it. The historical record is easy to Google, nearly all historians agree. The DNA evidence is in long and boring papers, but here is a synthesis:

"What they revealed was that Arabs and Jews are essentially a single population, and that Palestinians are slap bang in the middle of the different Jewish populations....Well, this basic story has been known for the best part of a decade now. But, perhaps unsurprisingly, it hasn't lead to the warring sides laying down their weapons and engaging in a group hug. This is a religious conflict, not a genetic one."


Epiphenom: The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

 

[Roudy]

"Eh Monte, got news for you. The only indigenous Palestinians WERE JEWS. You see Monte, there were no Muslims at all until the 7th century AD, let alone any Muslim Palestinians. And the overwhelming number of today's "Paletinians" are squatters for generations already with no family deeds to the land they stole. "

There you go, posting propaganda.

As historians and DNA confirm, the Muslims and Christians of Palestine are descendants of the people that have lived there for over 2,000 years. At one time during the rule of Byzantium, before the Arab conquest, they were almost all Christians (the state religion) that converted from Judaism, Roman religions and others, and after the Arab conquest a great majority of these Christians converted to Islam, for obvious practical reasons. Some remained Christian and their offspring are the Palestinian Christians of today, mixed in with descendants of Crusader era Christians.

There you copying and pasting propaganda crap without having the integrity to post the link you copied from.

I didn't copy it. I wrote it. The historical record is easy to Google, nearly all historians agree. The DNA evidence is in long and boring papers, but here is a synthesis:

"What they revealed was that Arabs and Jews are essentially a single population, and that Palestinians are slap bang in the middle of the different Jewish populations....Well, this basic story has been known for the best part of a decade now. But, perhaps unsurprisingly, it hasn't lead to the warring sides laying down their weapons and engaging in a group hug. This is a religious conflict, not a genetic one."


Epiphenom: The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

So your source is unreliable bullshit propaganda, and even contradicts your own claims, no wonder you didn't post it initially:

"The overall conclusion is that the female Jewish line deviates a lot more from the Palestinian heritage than the male line, but the heritage is still there."

OOOOPS! Ha ha ha ha.

 

[montelatici]

There you copying and pasting propaganda crap without having the integrity to post the link you copied from.

I didn't copy it. I wrote it. The historical record is easy to Google, nearly all historians agree. The DNA evidence is in long and boring papers, but here is a synthesis:

"What they revealed was that Arabs and Jews are essentially a single population, and that Palestinians are slap bang in the middle of the different Jewish populations....Well, this basic story has been known for the best part of a decade now. But, perhaps unsurprisingly, it hasn't lead to the warring sides laying down their weapons and engaging in a group hug. This is a religious conflict, not a genetic one."


Epiphenom: The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

So your source is unreliable bullshit propaganda, and even contradicts your own claims, no wonder you didn't post it initially:

"The overall conclusion is that the female Jewish line deviates a lot more from the Palestinian heritage than the male line, but the heritage is still there."

OOOOPS! Ha ha ha ha.

Bullshit? Hebrew University does bullshit research?

"The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

The Times recently carried this unusual report on an Israeli Jew (Tsvi Misinai, a retired computer expert) who's hoping to prove that Palestinians are descended from Jews. Apparently, he thinks that proving this will help to stop the bloodshed. His idea is that modern Jews are descended from emigration in the first few centuries of the Christian era. The Jews who stayed put in Palestine converted to Islam, and became Palestinian Arabs. There's hope that genetic tests might be able to prove this.

Well, there is good news and bad news on that score.

The good news is that the genetics of Arabs and Jews have been pretty extensively researched. The classic study dates to 2000, from a team lead by Michael Hammer of University of Arizona. They looked at Y-chromosome haplotypes - this is the genetic material passed from father to son down the generations.

What they revealed was that Arabs and Jews are essentially a single population, and that Palestinians are slap bang in the middle of the different Jewish populations (as shown in this figure).

Another team, lead by Almut Nebel at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem, took a closer look in 2001. They found that Jewish lineages essentially bracket Muslim Kurds, but they were also very closely related to Palestinians. In fact, what their analysis suggested was that Palestinians were identical to Jews, but with a small mix of Arab genes - what you would expect if they were originally from the same stock, but that Palestinians had mixed a little with Arab immigrants. They conclude:
We propose that the Y chromosomes in Palestinian Arabs and Bedouin represent, to a large extent, early lineages derived from the Neolithic inhabitants of the area and additional lineages from more-recent population movements. The early lineages are part of the common chromosome pool shared with Jews (Nebel et al. 2000). According to our working model, the more-recent migrations were mostly from the Arabian Peninsula...
So, as far as male lineage goes, the genetic story is very clear. Palestinians and Jews are virtually indistinguishable.

Epiphenom: The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

 

[montelatici]

There you copying and pasting propaganda crap without having the integrity to post the link you copied from.

I didn't copy it. I wrote it. The historical record is easy to Google, nearly all historians agree. The DNA evidence is in long and boring papers, but here is a synthesis:

"What they revealed was that Arabs and Jews are essentially a single population, and that Palestinians are slap bang in the middle of the different Jewish populations....Well, this basic story has been known for the best part of a decade now. But, perhaps unsurprisingly, it hasn't lead to the warring sides laying down their weapons and engaging in a group hug. This is a religious conflict, not a genetic one."


Epiphenom: The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

So your source is unreliable bullshit propaganda, and even contradicts your own claims, no wonder you didn't post it initially:

"The overall conclusion is that the female Jewish line deviates a lot more from the Palestinian heritage than the male line, but the heritage is still there."

OOOOPS! Ha ha ha ha.

Well there is a very good reason why the female Jewish line deviates. I am so sorry,
I really didn't want to do this to you, but since you brought it up, you have a way shooting yourself in the foot. Maybe you should think before you respond to me especially.


Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts


"maternal lineages did not originate in the Near or Middle East or the Khazarian Caucasus but rather, for the most part, within Mediterranean Europe. Another twist in the findings: Jewish women may have been assimilated in Europe as far back as 2,000 years ago—earlier than most other studies have projected. The researchers believe the DNA could trace back to the early Roman Empire, when as much as 10 percent of the population practiced Judaism, many of them converts. Overall, they claim, at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe while 8 percent originated in the Near East, with the rest uncertain."

Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts | Genetic Literacy Project

 

[Roudy]

I didn't copy it. I wrote it. The historical record is easy to Google, nearly all historians agree. The DNA evidence is in long and boring papers, but here is a synthesis:

"What they revealed was that Arabs and Jews are essentially a single population, and that Palestinians are slap bang in the middle of the different Jewish populations....Well, this basic story has been known for the best part of a decade now. But, perhaps unsurprisingly, it hasn't lead to the warring sides laying down their weapons and engaging in a group hug. This is a religious conflict, not a genetic one."


Epiphenom: The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

So your source is unreliable bullshit propaganda, and even contradicts your own claims, no wonder you didn't post it initially:

"The overall conclusion is that the female Jewish line deviates a lot more from the Palestinian heritage than the male line, but the heritage is still there."

OOOOPS! Ha ha ha ha.

Bullshit? Hebrew University does bullshit research?

"The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

The Times recently carried this unusual report on an Israeli Jew (Tsvi Misinai, a retired computer expert) who's hoping to prove that Palestinians are descended from Jews. Apparently, he thinks that proving this will help to stop the bloodshed. His idea is that modern Jews are descended from emigration in the first few centuries of the Christian era. The Jews who stayed put in Palestine converted to Islam, and became Palestinian Arabs. There's hope that genetic tests might be able to prove this.

Well, there is good news and bad news on that score.

The good news is that the genetics of Arabs and Jews have been pretty extensively researched. The classic study dates to 2000, from a team lead by Michael Hammer of University of Arizona. They looked at Y-chromosome haplotypes - this is the genetic material passed from father to son down the generations.

What they revealed was that Arabs and Jews are essentially a single population, and that Palestinians are slap bang in the middle of the different Jewish populations (as shown in this figure).

Another team, lead by Almut Nebel at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem, took a closer look in 2001. They found that Jewish lineages essentially bracket Muslim Kurds, but they were also very closely related to Palestinians. In fact, what their analysis suggested was that Palestinians were identical to Jews, but with a small mix of Arab genes - what you would expect if they were originally from the same stock, but that Palestinians had mixed a little with Arab immigrants. They conclude:
We propose that the Y chromosomes in Palestinian Arabs and Bedouin represent, to a large extent, early lineages derived from the Neolithic inhabitants of the area and additional lineages from more-recent population movements. The early lineages are part of the common chromosome pool shared with Jews (Nebel et al. 2000). According to our working model, the more-recent migrations were mostly from the Arabian Peninsula...
So, as far as male lineage goes, the genetic story is very clear. Palestinians and Jews are virtually indistinguishable.

Epiphenom: The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

And that's just one stupid article from one stupid blog. Palestinians are Arabs no different than their Arab brethren. If Palestinians are Jews then all the Arab world are Jews. That pig just won't fly, Mohomod. No matter how hard you try. LOL

 

[montelatici]

So your source is unreliable bullshit propaganda, and even contradicts your own claims, no wonder you didn't post it initially:

"The overall conclusion is that the female Jewish line deviates a lot more from the Palestinian heritage than the male line, but the heritage is still there."

OOOOPS! Ha ha ha ha.

Bullshit? Hebrew University does bullshit research?

"The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

The Times recently carried this unusual report on an Israeli Jew (Tsvi Misinai, a retired computer expert) who's hoping to prove that Palestinians are descended from Jews. Apparently, he thinks that proving this will help to stop the bloodshed. His idea is that modern Jews are descended from emigration in the first few centuries of the Christian era. The Jews who stayed put in Palestine converted to Islam, and became Palestinian Arabs. There's hope that genetic tests might be able to prove this.

Well, there is good news and bad news on that score.

The good news is that the genetics of Arabs and Jews have been pretty extensively researched. The classic study dates to 2000, from a team lead by Michael Hammer of University of Arizona. They looked at Y-chromosome haplotypes - this is the genetic material passed from father to son down the generations.

What they revealed was that Arabs and Jews are essentially a single population, and that Palestinians are slap bang in the middle of the different Jewish populations (as shown in this figure).

Another team, lead by Almut Nebel at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem, took a closer look in 2001. They found that Jewish lineages essentially bracket Muslim Kurds, but they were also very closely related to Palestinians. In fact, what their analysis suggested was that Palestinians were identical to Jews, but with a small mix of Arab genes - what you would expect if they were originally from the same stock, but that Palestinians had mixed a little with Arab immigrants. They conclude:
We propose that the Y chromosomes in Palestinian Arabs and Bedouin represent, to a large extent, early lineages derived from the Neolithic inhabitants of the area and additional lineages from more-recent population movements. The early lineages are part of the common chromosome pool shared with Jews (Nebel et al. 2000). According to our working model, the more-recent migrations were mostly from the Arabian Peninsula...
So, as far as male lineage goes, the genetic story is very clear. Palestinians and Jews are virtually indistinguishable.

Epiphenom: The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

And that's just one stupid article from one stupid blog. Palestinians are Arabs no different than their Arab brethren. If Palestinians are Jews then all the Arab world are Jews. That pig just won't fly, Mohomod. No matter how hard you try. LOL

Oh dear. That shooting in the foot thing. It wasn't the blog, it was the Hebrew University DNA research that determined that Palestinians and Jews are the same people DNA wise.

 

[Roudy]

I didn't copy it. I wrote it. The historical record is easy to Google, nearly all historians agree. The DNA evidence is in long and boring papers, but here is a synthesis:

"What they revealed was that Arabs and Jews are essentially a single population, and that Palestinians are slap bang in the middle of the different Jewish populations....Well, this basic story has been known for the best part of a decade now. But, perhaps unsurprisingly, it hasn't lead to the warring sides laying down their weapons and engaging in a group hug. This is a religious conflict, not a genetic one."


Epiphenom: The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

So your source is unreliable bullshit propaganda, and even contradicts your own claims, no wonder you didn't post it initially:

"The overall conclusion is that the female Jewish line deviates a lot more from the Palestinian heritage than the male line, but the heritage is still there."

OOOOPS! Ha ha ha ha.

Well there is a very good reason why the female Jewish line deviates. I am so sorry,
I really didn't want to do this to you, but since you brought it up, you have a way shooting yourself in the foot. Maybe you should think before you respond to me especially.


Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts


"maternal lineages did not originate in the Near or Middle East or the Khazarian Caucasus but rather, for the most part, within Mediterranean Europe. Another twist in the findings: Jewish women may have been assimilated in Europe as far back as 2,000 years ago—earlier than most other studies have projected. The researchers believe the DNA could trace back to the early Roman Empire, when as much as 10 percent of the population practiced Judaism, many of them converts. Overall, they claim, at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe while 8 percent originated in the Near East, with the rest uncertain."

Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts | Genetic Literacy Project

Yeah, so many articles claiming so much bullshit which contradict each other. LOL. One day the Jews are Italian, the next day they're Arab, the next day they're Khazars, and then we're back to being Jewish again. I guess it depends what you morons are arguing at the time. I'll show you ten idiotic articles you and your ilk have posted each reaching a different conclusion.

Problem is you guys can't even keep track of your own bullshit. Ha ha ha.

Like I said Mohomod what don't fly, don't fly.

 

[Roudy]

Bullshit? Hebrew University does bullshit research?

"The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

The Times recently carried this unusual report on an Israeli Jew (Tsvi Misinai, a retired computer expert) who's hoping to prove that Palestinians are descended from Jews. Apparently, he thinks that proving this will help to stop the bloodshed. His idea is that modern Jews are descended from emigration in the first few centuries of the Christian era. The Jews who stayed put in Palestine converted to Islam, and became Palestinian Arabs. There's hope that genetic tests might be able to prove this.

Well, there is good news and bad news on that score.

The good news is that the genetics of Arabs and Jews have been pretty extensively researched. The classic study dates to 2000, from a team lead by Michael Hammer of University of Arizona. They looked at Y-chromosome haplotypes - this is the genetic material passed from father to son down the generations.

What they revealed was that Arabs and Jews are essentially a single population, and that Palestinians are slap bang in the middle of the different Jewish populations (as shown in this figure).

Another team, lead by Almut Nebel at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem, took a closer look in 2001. They found that Jewish lineages essentially bracket Muslim Kurds, but they were also very closely related to Palestinians. In fact, what their analysis suggested was that Palestinians were identical to Jews, but with a small mix of Arab genes - what you would expect if they were originally from the same stock, but that Palestinians had mixed a little with Arab immigrants. They conclude:
We propose that the Y chromosomes in Palestinian Arabs and Bedouin represent, to a large extent, early lineages derived from the Neolithic inhabitants of the area and additional lineages from more-recent population movements. The early lineages are part of the common chromosome pool shared with Jews (Nebel et al. 2000). According to our working model, the more-recent migrations were mostly from the Arabian Peninsula...
So, as far as male lineage goes, the genetic story is very clear. Palestinians and Jews are virtually indistinguishable.

Epiphenom: The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

And that's just one stupid article from one stupid blog. Palestinians are Arabs no different than their Arab brethren. If Palestinians are Jews then all the Arab world are Jews. That pig just won't fly, Mohomod. No matter how hard you try. LOL

Oh dear. That shooting in the foot thing. It wasn't the blog, it was the Hebrew University DNA research that determined that Palestinians and Jews are the same people DNA wise.

No that was a stupid blog all peoples have similarities. This subject has been discussed before in detail and you guys left with your tails between your legs. If you'd like I can embarrass you again. But knowing you have no shame, you will come back and repeat it again, so what the use, with you knuckleheads.

 

[montelatici]

So your source is unreliable bullshit propaganda, and even contradicts your own claims, no wonder you didn't post it initially:

"The overall conclusion is that the female Jewish line deviates a lot more from the Palestinian heritage than the male line, but the heritage is still there."

OOOOPS! Ha ha ha ha.

Well there is a very good reason why the female Jewish line deviates. I am so sorry,
I really didn't want to do this to you, but since you brought it up, you have a way shooting yourself in the foot. Maybe you should think before you respond to me especially.


Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts


"maternal lineages did not originate in the Near or Middle East or the Khazarian Caucasus but rather, for the most part, within Mediterranean Europe. Another twist in the findings: Jewish women may have been assimilated in Europe as far back as 2,000 years ago—earlier than most other studies have projected. The researchers believe the DNA could trace back to the early Roman Empire, when as much as 10 percent of the population practiced Judaism, many of them converts. Overall, they claim, at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe while 8 percent originated in the Near East, with the rest uncertain."

Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts | Genetic Literacy Project

Yeah, so many articles claiming so much bullshit which contradict each other. LOL. One day the Jews are Italian, the next day they're Arab, the next day they're Khazars, and then we're back to being Jewish again. I guess it depends what you morons are arguing at the time. I'll show you ten idiotic articles you and your ilk have posted each reaching a different conclusion.

Problem is you guys can't even keep track of your own bullshit. Ha ha ha.

Like I said Mohomod what don't fly, don't fly.

I see, you accept no serious academic research studies that fly counter to the propaganda you have been fed. It is not surprising, it's a Zionutter trait.

 

[montelatici]

And that's just one stupid article from one stupid blog. Palestinians are Arabs no different than their Arab brethren. If Palestinians are Jews then all the Arab world are Jews. That pig just won't fly, Mohomod. No matter how hard you try. LOL

Oh dear. That shooting in the foot thing. It wasn't the blog, it was the Hebrew University DNA research that determined that Palestinians and Jews are the same people DNA wise.

No that was a stupid blog all peoples have similarities. This subject has been discussed before in detail and you guys left with your tails between your legs. If you'd like I can embarrass you again. But knowing you have no shame, you will come back and repeat it again, so what the use, with you knuckleheads.

You embarrass no one. It is you who are embarrassing. You don't accept scientific research and believe in fairy tale propaganda, grow up.

 

[montelatici]

And that's just one stupid article from one stupid blog. Palestinians are Arabs no different than their Arab brethren. If Palestinians are Jews then all the Arab world are Jews. That pig just won't fly, Mohomod. No matter how hard you try. LOL

Oh dear. That shooting in the foot thing. It wasn't the blog, it was the Hebrew University DNA research that determined that Palestinians and Jews are the same people DNA wise.

No that was a stupid blog all peoples have similarities. This subject has been discussed before in detail and you guys left with your tails between your legs. If you'd like I can embarrass you again. But knowing you have no shame, you will come back and repeat it again, so what the use, with you knuckleheads.

Calling people knuckleheads, by the way. Doesn't change the facts, it's just a personal insult that emanates from those who have no answer to facts.

 

[Sally]

Well there is a very good reason why the female Jewish line deviates. I am so sorry,
I really didn't want to do this to you, but since you brought it up, you have a way shooting yourself in the foot. Maybe you should think before you respond to me especially.


Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts


"maternal lineages did not originate in the Near or Middle East or the Khazarian Caucasus but rather, for the most part, within Mediterranean Europe. Another twist in the findings: Jewish women may have been assimilated in Europe as far back as 2,000 years ago—earlier than most other studies have projected. The researchers believe the DNA could trace back to the early Roman Empire, when as much as 10 percent of the population practiced Judaism, many of them converts. Overall, they claim, at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe while 8 percent originated in the Near East, with the rest uncertain."

Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts | Genetic Literacy Project

Yeah, so many articles claiming so much bullshit which contradict each other. LOL. One day the Jews are Italian, the next day they're Arab, the next day they're Khazars, and then we're back to being Jewish again. I guess it depends what you morons are arguing at the time. I'll show you ten idiotic articles you and your ilk have posted each reaching a different conclusion.

Problem is you guys can't even keep track of your own bullshit. Ha ha ha.

Like I said Mohomod what don't fly, don't fly.

I see, you accept no serious academic research studies that fly counter to the propaganda you have been fed. It is not surprising, it's a Zionutter trait.

Sad how for years Islmonutters have tried to show that the European Jews didn't originate in Israel. Maybe for a change of pace they should start talking about how the Arabs don't belong in the rest of the Middle East countries but actually all belong back on the Saudi Peninsula where they came from in the first place. However, it is an Islamonuitter trait that they believe that the Muslims originated in these countries also.

The bottom line here actually is that the Muslims want to rule the entire Middle East, and it is very galling to them to have the Jews govern a tiny piece of real estate when it should all belong to them. That is why they are trying so hard to delegitimize the Europeans Jews living in Israel.

 

[montelatici]

Yeah, so many articles claiming so much bullshit which contradict each other. LOL. One day the Jews are Italian, the next day they're Arab, the next day they're Khazars, and then we're back to being Jewish again. I guess it depends what you morons are arguing at the time. I'll show you ten idiotic articles you and your ilk have posted each reaching a different conclusion.

Problem is you guys can't even keep track of your own bullshit. Ha ha ha.

Like I said Mohomod what don't fly, don't fly.

I see, you accept no serious academic research studies that fly counter to the propaganda you have been fed. It is not surprising, it's a Zionutter trait.

Sad how for years Islmonutters have tried to show that the European Jews didn't originate in Israel. Maybe for a change of pace they should start talking about how the Arabs don't belong in the rest of the Middle East countries but actually all belong back on the Saudi Peninsula where they came from in the first place. However, it is an Islamonuitter trait that they believe that the Muslims originated in these countries also.

The bottom line here actually is that the Muslims want to rule the entire Middle East, and it is very galling to them to have the Jews govern a tiny piece of real estate when it should all belong to them. That is why they are trying so hard to delegitimize the Europeans Jews living in Israel.

1. The studies are not "Muslim" at all, they are mainly Israeli and American/European universities and researchers.

2. You may be correct in assuming the Muslims want to rule the entire Middle East. Not a good thing I agree, but they are the vast majority there.

3. It is problematic for Europeans to rule in the Middle East, the demographics are just not conducive. It is not a matter of delegitimization. Europeans have been successful in the Americas and Oceania. Not so successful in Africa or the Middle East.

 

[Sally]

I see, you accept no serious academic research studies that fly counter to the propaganda you have been fed. It is not surprising, it's a Zionutter trait.

Sad how for years Islmonutters have tried to show that the European Jews didn't originate in Israel. Maybe for a change of pace they should start talking about how the Arabs don't belong in the rest of the Middle East countries but actually all belong back on the Saudi Peninsula where they came from in the first place. However, it is an Islamonuitter trait that they believe that the Muslims originated in these countries also.

The bottom line here actually is that the Muslims want to rule the entire Middle East, and it is very galling to them to have the Jews govern a tiny piece of real estate when it should all belong to them. That is why they are trying so hard to delegitimize the Europeans Jews living in Israel.

1. The studies are not "Muslim" at all, they are mainly Israeli and American/European universities and researchers.

2. You may be correct in assuming the Muslims want to rule the entire Middle East. Not a good thing I agree, but they are the vast majority there.

3. It is problematic for Europeans to rule in the Middle East, the demographics are just not conducive. It is not a matter of delegitimization. Europeans have been successful in the Americas and Oceania. Not so successful in Africa or the Middle East.

I'll let some genetic experts here in the U.S. get around to giving their take on this. There are many Leftist Jews in Israel and Europe who would like the Israelis to roll over and play dead for the Arabs.

Why should it be such a big problem if the Muslims don't rule every square inch of land in the Middle East. I mentioned her once, and I will mention it again -- a Muslim woman from a Southern state in India wanted 850 million Hindus eradicated just so Islam could rule India. Are the Muslims so greedy that they can't share any part of this planet?

Meanwhile, there used to be a Paki Brit who said that the Muslims were taking over Great Britain because of their high birth rate. Given that the Muslims are flooding into Europe, I wonder if those claiming that the Jews have no right to govern any small piece of land in the Middle East will start complaining about what is happening in Europe. Of course, the Muslims wouldn't be complaining because they would love that, but how about the anti-Semitic Europeans? Will they go for this?

 

[Roudy]

I didn't copy it. I wrote it. The historical record is easy to Google, nearly all historians agree. The DNA evidence is in long and boring papers, but here is a synthesis:

"What they revealed was that Arabs and Jews are essentially a single population, and that Palestinians are slap bang in the middle of the different Jewish populations....Well, this basic story has been known for the best part of a decade now. But, perhaps unsurprisingly, it hasn't lead to the warring sides laying down their weapons and engaging in a group hug. This is a religious conflict, not a genetic one."


Epiphenom: The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

So your source is unreliable bullshit propaganda, and even contradicts your own claims, no wonder you didn't post it initially:

"The overall conclusion is that the female Jewish line deviates a lot more from the Palestinian heritage than the male line, but the heritage is still there."

OOOOPS! Ha ha ha ha.

Well there is a very good reason why the female Jewish line deviates. I am so sorry,
I really didn't want to do this to you, but since you brought it up, you have a way shooting yourself in the foot. Maybe you should think before you respond to me especially.


Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts


"maternal lineages did not originate in the Near or Middle East or the Khazarian Caucasus but rather, for the most part, within Mediterranean Europe. Another twist in the findings: Jewish women may have been assimilated in Europe as far back as 2,000 years ago—earlier than most other studies have projected. The researchers believe the DNA could trace back to the early Roman Empire, when as much as 10 percent of the population practiced Judaism, many of them converts. Overall, they claim, at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe while 8 percent originated in the Near East, with the rest uncertain."

Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts | Genetic Literacy Project

You see, you again posted crap and you didn't even bother reading. Nowhere in this link does it mention a Hebrew university, nowhere does it mention "Palestinians and Jews are the same" the only reference to a university in Israel is THIS STUDY:

"But a subsequent and more extensive study in 2006 by a team based at Technion and Rambam Medical Center in Haifa suggested that Ashkenazi women—40 percent or more—may indeed have had ancient Near and Middle Eastern roots, and may have accompanied their husbands as part of families migrating together."

And if anything it confirms the Jews as wanderers who stayed as Jews, so there goes your argument out the window, MOHOMOD:

Known as the so-called “Rhineland hypothesis,” the consensus research holds that most Ashkenazi Jews, as well as many Jews tracing their lineage to Italy, North Africa, Iraq, Iran, Kurdish regions and Yemen, share common paternal haplotypes also found among many Arabs from Palestine, Lebanon and Syria. Only a small percentage of the Y-DNA of Ashkenazi Jews—less than 25 percent—originated outside of the Near East, presumably as converts.

This historical and genetic mosaic has provided support for the controversial concept of a “Jewish people.” The Law of Return, the Israeli law that established the right of Jews around the world to settle in Israel and which remains in force today, was a central tenet of Zionism. It is invoked by some religious Jews to support territorial claims.

 

[Roudy]

It's interesting how the Palestinians, who called themselves Arabs, Jordanians, Syrians, Egyptians, anything but Palestinians or descendants of the ancient Jews, have suddenly out of thin air turned into these long forgotten "Jewish Palestinians." Who happen to be Muslim Arabs, out of mere coincidence. And, Who are more similar to Jews, than to their Arab neighbors! Ha ha ha ho ho hee hee hee!

That pig sure won't fly.