A Reasonable Solution To The Gay Marriage Debate

[daws101]

Did you go to college? Please tell us exactly HOW these indoctrinations take place. I must have missed being dragged into a dimly lit room and brainwashed into believing a certain way.

Please tell us what these universities are doing, besides giving these young adults information and letting them make their own decisions.

Here is an interesting article, there are hundreds more just like it. Just google the topic:

Systematic Practice of Political Indoctrination at Universities and Colleges - Atlas Shrugs

I think its funny that you try and make the educators out to be the bad guys. Are these students so stupid that they cannot make up their own minds? You obviously don't hold them responsible for their actions. Which is odd, considering the number of times conservatives in this thread have ranted about personal responsibilities. The students you claim are being "indoctrinated" are all old enough to help decide who will run this nation, and old enough to be given serious weapons and put in life or death situations with the military. But they are not responsible for their own actions while at a university? lol

bump!

 

[koshergrl]

Media bias mean anything to you?

The left wing media is biased...but the left wing extremists refuse to afford anything but left wing media credibility.

The left wing media refuses to report findings that show their politics in an unfavorable light..this is why you can't find mainstream media articles on the horrendous activities of Planned Parenthood (except when it's just over the top and they absolutely can't ignore it), or in this instance, the bias of academia. And anyone who does report on it is decried as "Pro-Life! Hisssssss!"

Anyone who complains is necessarily a right wing *whacko* because the left wing media refuses to report on it.

 

[daws101]

Here is an interesting article, there are hundreds more just like it. Just google the topic:

Systematic Practice of Political Indoctrination at Universities and Colleges - Atlas Shrugs

I think its funny that you try and make the educators out to be the bad guys. Are these students so stupid that they cannot make up their own minds? You obviously don't hold them responsible for their actions. Which is odd, considering the number of times conservatives in this thread have ranted about personal responsibilities. The students you claim are being "indoctrinated" are all old enough to help decide who will run this nation, and old enough to be given serious weapons and put in life or death situations with the military. But they are not responsible for their own actions while at a university? lol

As I wrote earlier, the students are "YOUNG MINDS FULL OF MUSH" they are easily indoctrinated. It is a very common practice for the youth to be politically indoctrinated. Hitler was very successful indoctrinating the Youth of Germany. He turned the youth on their own parents.

 

[koshergrl]

Oh, lovely. A well thought out argument, that.

 

[daws101]

Media bias mean anything to you?

The left wing media is biased...but the left wing extremists refuse to afford anything but left wing media credibility.

The left wing media refuses to report findings that show their politics in an unfavorable light..this is why you can't find mainstream media articles on the horrendous activities of Planned Parenthood (except when it's just over the top and they absolutely can't ignore it), or in this instance, the bias of academia. And anyone who does report on it is decried as "Pro-Life! Hisssssss!"

Anyone who complains is necessarily a right wing *whacko* because the left wing media refuses to report on it.

 

[daws101]

Oh, lovely. A well thought out argument, that.

a picture paints a thousand words .

 

[koshergrl]

Not really.

 

[Toro]

Because he believes a promiscuous, diseased, abusive society is an improvement over a functional, healthy one. This is the sort of society that accommodates depraved individuals, and that's why you'll find depraved individuals advocating for it, and pretending it's preferrable to the alternative.

We have a functional, healthy society. The idealized stereotype you seem to pine for never existed. Examples of societies that are dysfunctional are Haiti and Somalia. Old people railing against how society has plunged into moral decay is as old as the hills themselves.

Blacks are no longer second class citizens like they were 50 years ago. Nor are women. It was great to be me, a middle-aged white guy. Kinda sucked to be everyone else. Women knew their place and I never had to be worried about negroes. Yeah, let's go back to that, an uptight, repressive society. That's healthy and functional.

Opponents of integration argued that we couldn't give blacks full rights because they were less civilized, and they would steal all the white women. History will judge the opponents of gay rights the same way we judge the opponents of full suffrage and integration today.

Zimbabwe was functional until things suddenly changed politically, now it is dysfunctional. The same can be said for many nations. The US is in a precarious position.

No it is not.

 

[Vidi]

Media bias mean anything to you?

The left wing media is biased...but the left wing extremists refuse to afford anything but left wing media credibility.

The left wing media refuses to report findings that show their politics in an unfavorable light..this is why you can't find mainstream media articles on the horrendous activities of Planned Parenthood (except when it's just over the top and they absolutely can't ignore it), or in this instance, the bias of academia. And anyone who does report on it is decried as "Pro-Life! Hisssssss!"

Anyone who complains is necessarily a right wing *whacko* because the left wing media refuses to report on it.

a lack of evidence is proof then?

 

[Montrovant]

Yes, in this thread. And in every one of the other threads as well.

You'll note that winterporn determined he would ignore me after I called him on the fact he claimed our only societal issue right now is a slight economic downturn.

Which means he doesn't view increased illegitimate teenaged births, increased abortion, increased child abuse, increased child murder, increased STDs as issues.

Kinda interesting, I think.

Since he said nothing of the sort, this post is nothing but another example of your lies.

What he said is that our society is doing fine, that it is not in a decline. He mentioned the economy as a separate issue.

Care to show us where he said what you claim, or to admit your lies? I find it doubtful.

 

[Gadawg73]

Ridiculous the claims that media bias, college teachers, liberals and such influence folks to be gay.
The most absurd claims I have heard in my 57 years.
Without any facts whatsoever to back those claims up of course.

 

[garyganu]

I kinda doubt we are in the same boat as Zimbabwe.

Ancient Rome and Ancient Greece also fell into dysfunction.

Yes, they did.

But that still does not mean anything where the US is concerned. The idea that allowing gays to marry would cause the collapse of an entire nation is ridiculous.

The conservatives claim that homosexuals make up only 1.5% of the population. There are 311 million people in the country. Even if every single homosexual married, that would still be only 2.3 million weddings.

To put it in persepctive, by the 1.5% claim, there are 4.66 million homosexuals in the USA. The population of New York City is 8.1 million. Do you think if half the peope in NY tried they could destroy the US?

My analogy to Ancient Greece and Rome had nothing to do with homosexuality per se. Both empires were at the height of their wealth, power and influence when they declined and fell, just as the US is today.. Zimbabwe was also doing very well when it declined and fell into poverty and starvation. IMO, today's US is also in a precarious position.

 

[garyganu]

I found info on 5 having it. Brown, Northwestern, Yale, Harvard, and Univ of kentucky.

Unless you have links showing significantly more, your claim to "most" is bogus.

Those are some of the most influential universities in the country.

Totally irrelevant.

First you claimed "most universities". Then you claimed "Most of the major influential universities".

Now you claim that these 5 are some of the most influential? What happened to "most".

Also, since Yale's president cancelled the event, and UK is on no one's list of "most influential universities", you have only 3 left that could be considered seriously influential.

So the list does not include Princeton, William & Mary, Cornell, Dartmouth, MIT, Emory, Tulane, Stanford, and Temple. So I just listed 3 highly influential universities for every one that has a sex week.

My mistake, I should have written many instead of most. My comment was meant to point out a trend in the current morals of our universities. This would have been considered outrageous a few decades ago. Now it is acceptable by some of America's top universities. What will be acceptable 20 years from now?

 

[garyganu]

And you're lying.

The CDC shows EXPONDENTIAL increases in teen pregnancy, abortion, STDS and murder since the advent of the "sexual revolution".

You dishonest pieces of shit keep pretending the slight decrease in the last 10 years negates the fact that for 40 years prior to that, the rates of abortion, child murder, child abuse, divorce, teen pregnancy, and STDs climbed steadily. The last 10 years decrease doesn't represent overall decreases at all.

We have solved the problem of hunger in the US, at least for now. However, that has happened many times in the past. The cycles of feast and famine repeat throughout history.

bullshit! Hunger in America: Key Findings
Hunger in America: Key Findings
•The 37 million Americans served annually by Feeding America include nearly 14 million children and nearly 3 million seniors.
•Each week, approximately 5.7 million people receive emergency food assistance from an agency served by a Feeding America member. This is a 27percent increase over numbers reported in Hunger in America 2006, which reported that 4.5 million people were served each week.
•These numbers are based on surveys conducted at emergency feeding centers, such as soup kitchens and food pantries, but do not factor in many individuals also served at non-emergency locations, such as Kids Cafe programs and senior centers.
Client Households

•76 percent (10 million) of client households served are food insecure, meaning they do not always know where they will find their next meal.
•36 percent of these client households are experiencing food insecurity with hunger, meaning they are sometimes completely without a source of food.
•79 percent (11 million) of households with children served are also food insecure.
•Of the 37 million people the Feeding America network serves:
•70 percent of households have incomes below the federal poverty line.
•The average monthly income for client households is $940.
•36 percent of households have one or more adults who is working.
•10 percent of client households are homeless.
Tough Choices

Many of the client households served by Feeding America food banks report that their household incomes are inadequate to cover their basic household expenses.

•46 percent of client households served report having to choose between paying for utilities or heating fuel and food.
•39 percent of client households said they had to choose between paying for rent or a mortgage and food.
•34 percent of client households report having to choose between paying for medical bills and food.
•35 percent of client households must choose between transportation and food.
One in four client households (24 percent) do not have health insurance and nearly half of our adult clients report that they have unpaid medical and hospital bills.

Thirty percent of households report having at least one member of their household in poor health.

Hunger in America: Key Findings

According to your information, not a single person has starved to death in the US due to lack of food availability. That means that we have solved the problem of starvation in today's America. At least for now.

 

[WinterBorn]

Those are some of the most influential universities in the country.

Totally irrelevant.

First you claimed "most universities". Then you claimed "Most of the major influential universities".

Now you claim that these 5 are some of the most influential? What happened to "most".

Also, since Yale's president cancelled the event, and UK is on no one's list of "most influential universities", you have only 3 left that could be considered seriously influential.

So the list does not include Princeton, William & Mary, Cornell, Dartmouth, MIT, Emory, Tulane, Stanford, and Temple. So I just listed 3 highly influential universities for every one that has a sex week.

My mistake, I should have written many instead of most. My comment was meant to point out a trend in the current morals of our universities. This would have been considered outrageous a few decades ago. Now it is acceptable by some of America's top universities. What will be acceptable 20 years from now?

I don't think 5 would out of 2600 would be considered many. But ok.

In 20 years perhaps freedom won't be so threatening?

 

[daws101]

Ancient Rome and Ancient Greece also fell into dysfunction.

Yes, they did.

But that still does not mean anything where the US is concerned. The idea that allowing gays to marry would cause the collapse of an entire nation is ridiculous.

The conservatives claim that homosexuals make up only 1.5% of the population. There are 311 million people in the country. Even if every single homosexual married, that would still be only 2.3 million weddings.

To put it in persepctive, by the 1.5% claim, there are 4.66 million homosexuals in the USA. The population of New York City is 8.1 million. Do you think if half the peope in NY tried they could destroy the US?

My analogy to Ancient Greece and Rome had nothing to do with homosexuality per se. Both empires were at the height of their wealth, power and influence when they declined and fell, just as the US is today.. Zimbabwe was also doing very well when it declined and fell into poverty and starvation. IMO, today's US is also in a precarious position.

you do realize that most all of the best minds of Greece and Rome were gay.
you know what they say about opinions...

 

[daws101]

We have solved the problem of hunger in the US, at least for now. However, that has happened many times in the past. The cycles of feast and famine repeat throughout history.

bullshit! Hunger in America: Key Findings
Hunger in America: Key Findings
•The 37 million Americans served annually by Feeding America include nearly 14 million children and nearly 3 million seniors.
•Each week, approximately 5.7 million people receive emergency food assistance from an agency served by a Feeding America member. This is a 27percent increase over numbers reported in Hunger in America 2006, which reported that 4.5 million people were served each week.
•These numbers are based on surveys conducted at emergency feeding centers, such as soup kitchens and food pantries, but do not factor in many individuals also served at non-emergency locations, such as Kids Cafe programs and senior centers.
Client Households

•76 percent (10 million) of client households served are food insecure, meaning they do not always know where they will find their next meal.
•36 percent of these client households are experiencing food insecurity with hunger, meaning they are sometimes completely without a source of food.
•79 percent (11 million) of households with children served are also food insecure.
•Of the 37 million people the Feeding America network serves:
•70 percent of households have incomes below the federal poverty line.
•The average monthly income for client households is $940.
•36 percent of households have one or more adults who is working.
•10 percent of client households are homeless.
Tough Choices

Many of the client households served by Feeding America food banks report that their household incomes are inadequate to cover their basic household expenses.

•46 percent of client households served report having to choose between paying for utilities or heating fuel and food.
•39 percent of client households said they had to choose between paying for rent or a mortgage and food.
•34 percent of client households report having to choose between paying for medical bills and food.
•35 percent of client households must choose between transportation and food.
One in four client households (24 percent) do not have health insurance and nearly half of our adult clients report that they have unpaid medical and hospital bills.

Thirty percent of households report having at least one member of their household in poor health.

Hunger in America: Key Findings

According to your information, not a single person has starved to death in the US due to lack of food availability. That means that we have solved the problem of starvation in today's America. At least for now.

I love when you rationalize!
first you said:"We have solved the problem of hunger in the US, at least for now."-GG

then you said"According to your information, not a single person has starved to death in the US due to lack of food availability."-GG

the article never mentions STARVATION! ASSHAT!
moving the goal posts when your ass is in a crack is chicken shit !
kinda kills any credibilty you might have had.
Here's a thought, Pick one line of bullshit and stick with it!

 

[garyganu]

bullshit! Hunger in America: Key Findings
Hunger in America: Key Findings
•The 37 million Americans served annually by Feeding America include nearly 14 million children and nearly 3 million seniors.
•Each week, approximately 5.7 million people receive emergency food assistance from an agency served by a Feeding America member. This is a 27percent increase over numbers reported in Hunger in America 2006, which reported that 4.5 million people were served each week.
•These numbers are based on surveys conducted at emergency feeding centers, such as soup kitchens and food pantries, but do not factor in many individuals also served at non-emergency locations, such as Kids Cafe programs and senior centers.
Client Households

•76 percent (10 million) of client households served are food insecure, meaning they do not always know where they will find their next meal.
•36 percent of these client households are experiencing food insecurity with hunger, meaning they are sometimes completely without a source of food.
•79 percent (11 million) of households with children served are also food insecure.
•Of the 37 million people the Feeding America network serves:
•70 percent of households have incomes below the federal poverty line.
•The average monthly income for client households is $940.
•36 percent of households have one or more adults who is working.
•10 percent of client households are homeless.
Tough Choices

Many of the client households served by Feeding America food banks report that their household incomes are inadequate to cover their basic household expenses.

•46 percent of client households served report having to choose between paying for utilities or heating fuel and food.
•39 percent of client households said they had to choose between paying for rent or a mortgage and food.
•34 percent of client households report having to choose between paying for medical bills and food.
•35 percent of client households must choose between transportation and food.
One in four client households (24 percent) do not have health insurance and nearly half of our adult clients report that they have unpaid medical and hospital bills.

Thirty percent of households report having at least one member of their household in poor health.

Hunger in America: Key Findings

According to your information, not a single person has starved to death in the US due to lack of food availability. That means that we have solved the problem of starvation in today's America. At least for now.

I love when you rationalize!
first you said:"We have solved the problem of hunger in the US, at least for now."-GG

then you said"According to your information, not a single person has starved to death in the US due to lack of food availability."-GG

the article never mentions STARVATION! ASSHAT!
moving the goal posts when your ass is in a crack is chicken shit !
kinda kills any credibilty you might have had.
Here's a thought, Pick one line of bullshit and stick with it!

I like to have passionate debates but I prefer to keep them civil.

IMO, hunger leads to starvation. If there is zero starvation, hunger problems are not severe, therefore, not a major problem in the U.S. IMO.

 

[Vidi]

According to your information, not a single person has starved to death in the US due to lack of food availability. That means that we have solved the problem of starvation in today's America. At least for now.

I love when you rationalize!
first you said:"We have solved the problem of hunger in the US, at least for now."-GG

then you said"According to your information, not a single person has starved to death in the US due to lack of food availability."-GG

the article never mentions STARVATION! ASSHAT!
moving the goal posts when your ass is in a crack is chicken shit !
kinda kills any credibilty you might have had.
Here's a thought, Pick one line of bullshit and stick with it!

I like to have passionate debates but I prefer to keep them civil.

IMO, hunger leads to starvation. If there is zero starvation, hunger problems are not severe, therefore, not a major problem in the U.S. IMO.

Your opinion is ill informed and idiotic.

As many as 17 million children nationwide are struggling with what is known as food insecurity. To put it another way, one in four children in the country is living without consistent access to enough nutritious food to live a healthy life, according to the study, "Map the Meal Child Food Insecurity 2011."

HUNGER HURTS: Millions of American Kids Go Hungry - ABC News

 

[Vidi]

According to your information, not a single person has starved to death in the US due to lack of food availability. That means that we have solved the problem of starvation in today's America. At least for now.

I love when you rationalize!
first you said:"We have solved the problem of hunger in the US, at least for now."-GG

then you said"According to your information, not a single person has starved to death in the US due to lack of food availability."-GG

the article never mentions STARVATION! ASSHAT!
moving the goal posts when your ass is in a crack is chicken shit !
kinda kills any credibilty you might have had.
Here's a thought, Pick one line of bullshit and stick with it!

I like to have passionate debates but I prefer to keep them civil.

IMO, hunger leads to starvation. If there is zero starvation, hunger problems are not severe, therefore, not a major problem in the U.S. IMO.

Your opinion on this subject is ill informed and idiotic.

As many as 17 million children nationwide are struggling with what is known as food insecurity. To put it another way, one in four children in the country is living without consistent access to enough nutritious food to live a healthy life, according to the study, "Map the Meal Child Food Insecurity 2011."

HUNGER HURTS: Millions of American Kids Go Hungry - ABC News