A Reason I like John McCain

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their an evil organization.The group of people that are the ones that control world events that happen.They are the likes of The Rockefellers,Henry Kissinger and other extremely evil and corrupted men and women.They are a group of people whos mindset is the people of the world who are not rich powerful and corrupted,if your not like that,then you are the enemy.If your not like that,you cant become a member of the CFR.they are very careful on who they let join their organization.The Clintons,The Bushs,MCcain,and Obama are all members.Obama just became one recently like within the last year or so.Thats why Ron Paul has got to get elected or were screwed.Paul is not a member of the CRF and does not agree at all with the way that organization is run.Thats why you see very little media coverage on paul cause they dont want him in there.
Get yourself some tin foil, a pair of black and white nikes, a glass of kool-aid, and crawl into a hole. That is only place safe for people lke you. You know, the people that know the "truth." Don't worry another comet will be along soon.
 

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CFR Quotes
"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England... (and) ...believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established."
- Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton

CFR Quotes
"Once the ruling members of the CFR shadow government have decided that the U.S. Government should adopt a particular policy, the very substantial research facilities of (the) CFR are put to work to develop arguments, intellectual and emotional, to support the new policy, and to confound and discredit, intellectually and politically, any opposition."
- Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy

CFR Quotes
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government."


The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses... This little coterie...run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen...seizes...our executive officers...legislative bodies...schools...
courts...newspapers and every agency ceated for the public protection.”

N.Y. Mayor, John Hylan

The CFR and the American News/Media
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FPAQlbmlSc
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Get yourself some tin foil, a pair of black and white nikes, a glass of kool-aid, and crawl into a hole. That is only place safe for people lke you. You know, the people that know the "truth." Don't worry another comet will be along soon.
 

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This applies to you as well:

Get yourself some tin foil, a pair of black and white nikes, a glass of kool-aid, and crawl into a hole. That is only place safe for people lke you. You know, the people that know the "truth." Don't worry another comet will be along soon.
Now you have done it, Eots will pollute this thread with long ass quotes that do not mean what he claims they mean by people that probably are not even aware that paranoid delusionals are twisting their words.
 

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It's not so much him being an asshole as it is him being quite liberal in MA.

I'm assuming you were looking for a conservative to vote for, and you did well to not choose either of those 2.
Actually, I am looking for someone logical and reasonable to vote for. I don't vote party lines. If you read my posts here you would assume I am the biggest commie leftist this side of Venezuela...but I am more moderate than assumed by most.

I am radical in my beliefs in equality, fairness, defeat of tyranny, and the greater good. And for that I am labeled a commie, a socialist, a liberal and so on.

I hated Romney because he was ultra-conservative. He passed laws here that violate the Constitution, ethical standards, and were pro-business to the extent of harming the working class.

He is an asshole.
 

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I don't think he has said he was ever considering MCcain and Romney.
Actually, my posts stated that McCain lost my vote. I was considering him over all the others. My other radical friends were rooting for Paulson.

I am in the Obama camp now.
 

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No the President does NOT have the final say, Congress does. Or have you forgotten the override of a veto power Congress has?

The President does not make bills, including money bills. He does not Vote on them. All he can do is sign them or veto them, which then Congress can override. The final word rests with Congress. Always has and probably always will.
Except in the case we saw in Bush's first term, when Congress was heavily Republican and both Congress & the White House were very partisan. At that time, Bush did not veto any bills that came through because the pro-business GOP majority made sure to filter out any legislation that did not contain pork or may have helped the working class & poor.

Now that the Democrats are the majority we are seeing more vetoes...such as the health care bill that would have helped to insure thousand of working class families (who could not afford it otherwise).
 

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Except in the case we saw in Bush's first term, when Congress was heavily Republican and both Congress & the White House were very partisan. At that time, Bush did not veto any bills that came through because the pro-business GOP majority made sure to filter out any legislation that did not contain pork or may have helped the working class & poor.

Now that the Democrats are the majority we are seeing more vetoes...such as the health care bill that would have helped to insure thousand of working class families (who could not afford it otherwise).
And again for the slow, the system is set up so that Congress has the last word. No matter how you cut it, Congress not the President has the final say on the Budget and on EVERYTHING.
 

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And again for the slow, the system is set up so that Congress has the last word. No matter how you cut it, Congress not the President has the final say on the Budget and on EVERYTHING.
I am no longer so sure. It seems that the White House has more power over Congress these days.
 

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This from a man who posts some of the most foolish things and refuses to back up his claims?
So remind me, HOW does our Government work? I am incorrect when I point out that only congress can pass bills and that even if the President veto's them can over rule his veto?

Come on tell us all how it REALLY works. I am dying to be educated on this matter by you.
 

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So remind me, HOW does our Government work? I am incorrect when I point out that only congress can pass bills and that even if the President veto's them can over rule his veto?

Come on tell us all how it REALLY works. I am dying to be educated on this matter by you.
I wish you were just dying
 

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No, just wish you would die so there would be one less asshole in the world.
The only asshole here is you and your constant refrain that anyone that disagrees with you are morons and thugs. I sure hope your stupid ass never needs those armed thugs in the Army or National Guard to help you out. I mean since all they do is kill people and all.

Ohh and I am STILL waiting for you to explain how the President has the last word on the Budget? Congress has the power to override his Veto. THEY have the final say.
 
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My post was mostly just meant to demonstrate how people in either party can appreciate the decency and good intent of those on the other side of the party, regardless of how you may feel about their politics. Consider it the anti-anti-Obama thread. It didn't really turn out as I had hoped.
 

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My post was mostly just meant to demonstrate how people in either party can appreciate the decency and good intent of those on the other side of the party, regardless of how you may feel about their politics. Consider it the anti-anti-Obama thread. It didn't really turn out as I had hoped.
It's the thought that counts. :cool:
 

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The only asshole here is you and your constant refrain that anyone that disagrees with you are morons and thugs. I sure hope your stupid ass never needs those armed thugs in the Army or National Guard to help you out. I mean since all they do is kill people and all.

Ohh and I am STILL waiting for you to explain how the President has the last word on the Budget? Congress has the power to override his Veto. THEY have the final say.
First of all, I don't attack everyone who disagrees with me. That is just a lie. You attack me on a regular basis and I usually respond in kind. And you have yet to back up any of your claims. I guess with senility comes a disregard for truth.

Secondly, I never said that the law works one way or another. I stated that is seems as though the president has gained power over legislation beyond what the Constitution allows...but it is more partisan corruption than anything.

It is okay for us to have opinions about how things seem without having to prove something. When one speaks as though they are speaking as an authority (as you do) they should be able to prove their point with citations and links (which you never do).

When I do state facts, I back them up. When I state opinion, that is different. Do you understand now?

Go back and read my post again. Try and not be so against the fact that it was me who posted it and read what I actually said. Your problem is that you see the person who posted before you see the post and you have already formed a bias. Then you do not fully read it, you simply read as far you feel you need to read to attack that person. And it is not just me you do this to.

I truly pity you old man.
 

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