A question for Jewish people

[Ice29]

Hey Ashkenazi, and Sephardi Jewish Communities that are still in Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, Austria and France and Spain etc etc...


What's it like to live in a place that Chopped your people's heads off, gassed your people by the millions...

Enslaved your people into making cars that European Society already had
(and better) with Normal labor...

Exiled your people to America and Israel...

Then tried to starve your people in Israel ?


Cooked up a Fixed bible made of doctrines of many NON Christians of Europe to blame you for the atrocities in that NEVER HAPPENED... because religion period is bullshit.


And gave you Unfair (and illegal) Interrogations, questioning and Trials... over the course of Millennia.

And Continues to this day, to ask you offensive questions that are none of their business even asking, much less having ANY answer to whatsoever ?

lol

 

[Laughing-gas]

Hey Ashkenazi, and Sephardi Jewish Communities that are still in Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, Austria and France and Spain etc etc...


What's it like to live in a place that Chopped your people's heads off, gassed your people by the millions...

Enslaved your people into making cars that European Society already had
(and better) with Normal labor...

Exiled your people to America and Israel...

Then tried to starve your people in Israel ?


Cooked up a Fixed bible made of doctrines of many NON Christians of Europe to blame you for the atrocities in that NEVER HAPPENED... because religion period is bullshit.


And gave you Unfair (and illegal) Interrogations, questioning and Trials... over the course of Millennia.

And Continues to this day, to ask you offensive questions that are none of their business even asking, much less having ANY answer to whatsoever ?

lol

The fact alone that they are still there should give you cause to ponder whether your premise is fucked up in the first place, but I expect that level of astuteness would be asking too much.

 

[Ice29]

Hey Ashkenazi, and Sephardi Jewish Communities that are still in Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, Austria and France and Spain etc etc...


What's it like to live in a place that Chopped your people's heads off, gassed your people by the millions...

Enslaved your people into making cars that European Society already had
(and better) with Normal labor...

Exiled your people to America and Israel...

Then tried to starve your people in Israel ?


Cooked up a Fixed bible made of doctrines of many NON Christians of Europe to blame you for the atrocities in that NEVER HAPPENED... because religion period is bullshit.


And gave you Unfair (and illegal) Interrogations, questioning and Trials... over the course of Millennia.

And Continues to this day, to ask you offensive questions that are none of their business even asking, much less having ANY answer to whatsoever ?

lol

The fact alone that they are still there should give you cause to ponder whether your premise is fucked up in the first place, but I expect that level of astuteness would be asking too much.

They're still there thanks to America, Britain, Canada, Australia / New Zealand and Russia.

 

[Laughing-gas]

Hey Ashkenazi, and Sephardi Jewish Communities that are still in Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, Austria and France and Spain etc etc...


What's it like to live in a place that Chopped your people's heads off, gassed your people by the millions...

Enslaved your people into making cars that European Society already had
(and better) with Normal labor...

Exiled your people to America and Israel...

Then tried to starve your people in Israel ?


Cooked up a Fixed bible made of doctrines of many NON Christians of Europe to blame you for the atrocities in that NEVER HAPPENED... because religion period is bullshit.


And gave you Unfair (and illegal) Interrogations, questioning and Trials... over the course of Millennia.

And Continues to this day, to ask you offensive questions that are none of their business even asking, much less having ANY answer to whatsoever ?

lol

The fact alone that they are still there should give you cause to ponder whether your premise is fucked up in the first place, but I expect that level of astuteness would be asking too much.

They're still there thanks to America, Britain, Canada, Australia / New Zealand and Russia.

I leave you alone to stagger around bewildered while trying to make sense in vain.

 

[Blackrook]

Things got off on the wrong foot between Christians and Jews when the Pharisees tricked the Romans into crucifying Jesus on trumped up charges, and then things got progressively worse when the Pharisees chased the Apostles around the Roman Empire, denouncing them in the synagogues and having them arrested and executed.

The Jews didn't see the long game, which was that one day Christianity would expand to be a vast religion of billions of people, while they would remain small in number and relatively powerless in the world. And everything the Jews did to the early Christians was written into the Bible so it would never be forgotten.

They also didn't forsee that a goat herder named Mohammed would start his own religion, based on false visions and prophesies, telling him that Jews were the ultimate enemy of Allah, and to kill them without mercy wherever they could be found, and that his religion would expand to be another billion people or so.

So really, Jews are in a precarious position, and will always be in a precarious position since their religion never got the numbers that Christianity and Islam got.

But God keeps Jews alive through the millennia, to remain a living proof that the Bible is true, and that his Chosen People remain chosen, even if that means they are chosen for special suffering rather than special reward.

Do they deserve what happens to them? I think at this point the question is irrelevant. There is no doubt that there is something going on we don't know about, some special rule that applies only to them. Any other people who suffered as much as them, and had as many setbacks, would be extinct by now. The Carthaginians, wiped out. The Aztecs, wiped out. The Britons, wiped out. The Neanderthals, an entire species, wiped out. The American Indians, once a vast people that covered a continent, nearly wiped out to the last man, woman and child.

Only the Jews last forever. God allows bad things to happen to them, but he also protects them so that they never go extinct. Here's what St. Teresa of Avila had to say, when she was thrown in a puddle of mud: “God, if this is how you treat your friends, no wonder you have so few.” The Jews could say: "God being your Chosen People is a pretty lousy deal, go choose someone else for awhile."

 

[Ice29]

Things got off on the wrong foot between Christians and Jews when the Pharisees tricked the Romans into crucifying Jesus on trumped up charges, and then things got progressively worse when the Pharisees chased the Apostles around the Roman Empire, denouncing them in the synagogues and having them arrested and executed.

The Jews didn't see the long game, which was that one day Christianity would expand to be a vast religion of billions of people, while they would remain small in number and relatively powerless in the world. And everything the Jews did to the early Christians was written into the Bible so it would never be forgotten.

They also didn't forsee that a goat herder named Mohammed would start his own religion, based on false visions and prophesies, telling him that Jews were the ultimate enemy of Allah, and to kill them without mercy wherever they could be found, and that his religion would expand to be another billion people or so.

So really, Jews are in a precarious position, and will always be in a precarious position since their religion never got the numbers that Christianity and Islam got.

But God keeps Jews alive through the millennia, to remain a living proof that the Bible is true, and that his Chosen People remain chosen, even if that means they are chosen for special suffering rather than special reward.

Do they deserve what happens to them? I think at this point the question is irrelevant. There is no doubt that there is something going on we don't know about, some special rule that applies only to them. Any other people who suffered as much as them, and had as many setbacks, would be extinct by now. The Carthaginians, wiped out. The Aztecs, wiped out. The Britons, wiped out. The Neanderthals, an entire species, wiped out. The American Indians, once a vast people that covered a continent, nearly wiped out to the last man, woman and child.

Only the Jews last forever. God allows bad things to happen to them, but he also protects them so that they never go extinct. Here's what St. Teresa of Avila had to say, when she was thrown in a puddle of mud: “God, if this is how you treat your friends, no wonder you have so few.” The Jews could say: "God being your Chosen People is a pretty lousy deal, go choose someone else for awhile."

Jesus didn't exist and neither does (any) God or any other deity.
"Jewish" people never did anything to Christians.

 

[Blackrook]

Things got off on the wrong foot between Christians and Jews when the Pharisees tricked the Romans into crucifying Jesus on trumped up charges, and then things got progressively worse when the Pharisees chased the Apostles around the Roman Empire, denouncing them in the synagogues and having them arrested and executed.

The Jews didn't see the long game, which was that one day Christianity would expand to be a vast religion of billions of people, while they would remain small in number and relatively powerless in the world. And everything the Jews did to the early Christians was written into the Bible so it would never be forgotten.

They also didn't forsee that a goat herder named Mohammed would start his own religion, based on false visions and prophesies, telling him that Jews were the ultimate enemy of Allah, and to kill them without mercy wherever they could be found, and that his religion would expand to be another billion people or so.

So really, Jews are in a precarious position, and will always be in a precarious position since their religion never got the numbers that Christianity and Islam got.

But God keeps Jews alive through the millennia, to remain a living proof that the Bible is true, and that his Chosen People remain chosen, even if that means they are chosen for special suffering rather than special reward.

Do they deserve what happens to them? I think at this point the question is irrelevant. There is no doubt that there is something going on we don't know about, some special rule that applies only to them. Any other people who suffered as much as them, and had as many setbacks, would be extinct by now. The Carthaginians, wiped out. The Aztecs, wiped out. The Britons, wiped out. The Neanderthals, an entire species, wiped out. The American Indians, once a vast people that covered a continent, nearly wiped out to the last man, woman and child.

Only the Jews last forever. God allows bad things to happen to them, but he also protects them so that they never go extinct. Here's what St. Teresa of Avila had to say, when she was thrown in a puddle of mud: “God, if this is how you treat your friends, no wonder you have so few.” The Jews could say: "God being your Chosen People is a pretty lousy deal, go choose someone else for awhile."

Jesus didn't exist and neither does (any) God or any other deity.
"Jewish" people never did anything to Christians.

Explain. Where did the Jesus story come from if he wasn't real? You must have a theory.

 

[Ice29]

Things got off on the wrong foot between Christians and Jews when the Pharisees tricked the Romans into crucifying Jesus on trumped up charges, and then things got progressively worse when the Pharisees chased the Apostles around the Roman Empire, denouncing them in the synagogues and having them arrested and executed.

The Jews didn't see the long game, which was that one day Christianity would expand to be a vast religion of billions of people, while they would remain small in number and relatively powerless in the world. And everything the Jews did to the early Christians was written into the Bible so it would never be forgotten.

They also didn't forsee that a goat herder named Mohammed would start his own religion, based on false visions and prophesies, telling him that Jews were the ultimate enemy of Allah, and to kill them without mercy wherever they could be found, and that his religion would expand to be another billion people or so.

So really, Jews are in a precarious position, and will always be in a precarious position since their religion never got the numbers that Christianity and Islam got.

But God keeps Jews alive through the millennia, to remain a living proof that the Bible is true, and that his Chosen People remain chosen, even if that means they are chosen for special suffering rather than special reward.

Do they deserve what happens to them? I think at this point the question is irrelevant. There is no doubt that there is something going on we don't know about, some special rule that applies only to them. Any other people who suffered as much as them, and had as many setbacks, would be extinct by now. The Carthaginians, wiped out. The Aztecs, wiped out. The Britons, wiped out. The Neanderthals, an entire species, wiped out. The American Indians, once a vast people that covered a continent, nearly wiped out to the last man, woman and child.

Only the Jews last forever. God allows bad things to happen to them, but he also protects them so that they never go extinct. Here's what St. Teresa of Avila had to say, when she was thrown in a puddle of mud: “God, if this is how you treat your friends, no wonder you have so few.” The Jews could say: "God being your Chosen People is a pretty lousy deal, go choose someone else for awhile."

Jesus didn't exist and neither does (any) God or any other deity.
"Jewish" people never did anything to Christians.

Explain. Where did the Jesus story come from if he wasn't real? You must have a theory.

It came from a collection of different stories from different ages and that's all I know about that.

Outside of that, I know that religion is the earliest form an explanation as to why we're here.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Things got off on the wrong foot between Christians and Jews when the Pharisees tricked the Romans into crucifying Jesus on trumped up charges, and then things got progressively worse when the Pharisees chased the Apostles around the Roman Empire, denouncing them in the synagogues and having them arrested and executed.

The Jews didn't see the long game, which was that one day Christianity would expand to be a vast religion of billions of people, while they would remain small in number and relatively powerless in the world. And everything the Jews did to the early Christians was written into the Bible so it would never be forgotten.

They also didn't forsee that a goat herder named Mohammed would start his own religion, based on false visions and prophesies, telling him that Jews were the ultimate enemy of Allah, and to kill them without mercy wherever they could be found, and that his religion would expand to be another billion people or so.

So really, Jews are in a precarious position, and will always be in a precarious position since their religion never got the numbers that Christianity and Islam got.

But God keeps Jews alive through the millennia, to remain a living proof that the Bible is true, and that his Chosen People remain chosen, even if that means they are chosen for special suffering rather than special reward.

Do they deserve what happens to them? I think at this point the question is irrelevant. There is no doubt that there is something going on we don't know about, some special rule that applies only to them. Any other people who suffered as much as them, and had as many setbacks, would be extinct by now. The Carthaginians, wiped out. The Aztecs, wiped out. The Britons, wiped out. The Neanderthals, an entire species, wiped out. The American Indians, once a vast people that covered a continent, nearly wiped out to the last man, woman and child.

Only the Jews last forever. God allows bad things to happen to them, but he also protects them so that they never go extinct. Here's what St. Teresa of Avila had to say, when she was thrown in a puddle of mud: “God, if this is how you treat your friends, no wonder you have so few.” The Jews could say: "God being your Chosen People is a pretty lousy deal, go choose someone else for awhile."

Jesus didn't exist and neither does (any) God or any other deity.
"Jewish" people never did anything to Christians.

The Christians were not responsible for what happened to the Jews. That was the Roman (Catholic) Empire that waged war against the Christians, Jews and non Catholics - 605 years of Inquisitions, starting world wars, assassinating presidents, kings, creating wars including WWII and the slaughter of 6 million Jews by their faithful Roman Catholic Son Hitler who they refused to ex-communicate.

 

[Penelope]

Things got off on the wrong foot between Christians and Jews when the Pharisees tricked the Romans into crucifying Jesus on trumped up charges, and then things got progressively worse when the Pharisees chased the Apostles around the Roman Empire, denouncing them in the synagogues and having them arrested and executed.

The Jews didn't see the long game, which was that one day Christianity would expand to be a vast religion of billions of people, while they would remain small in number and relatively powerless in the world. And everything the Jews did to the early Christians was written into the Bible so it would never be forgotten.

They also didn't forsee that a goat herder named Mohammed would start his own religion, based on false visions and prophesies, telling him that Jews were the ultimate enemy of Allah, and to kill them without mercy wherever they could be found, and that his religion would expand to be another billion people or so.

So really, Jews are in a precarious position, and will always be in a precarious position since their religion never got the numbers that Christianity and Islam got.

But God keeps Jews alive through the millennia, to remain a living proof that the Bible is true, and that his Chosen People remain chosen, even if that means they are chosen for special suffering rather than special reward.

Do they deserve what happens to them? I think at this point the question is irrelevant. There is no doubt that there is something going on we don't know about, some special rule that applies only to them. Any other people who suffered as much as them, and had as many setbacks, would be extinct by now. The Carthaginians, wiped out. The Aztecs, wiped out. The Britons, wiped out. The Neanderthals, an entire species, wiped out. The American Indians, once a vast people that covered a continent, nearly wiped out to the last man, woman and child.

Only the Jews last forever. God allows bad things to happen to them, but he also protects them so that they never go extinct. Here's what St. Teresa of Avila had to say, when she was thrown in a puddle of mud: “God, if this is how you treat your friends, no wonder you have so few.” The Jews could say: "God being your Chosen People is a pretty lousy deal, go choose someone else for awhile."

Yes they are blood thirsty savages. You reap what you sow.

 

[Kondor3]

...The Christians were not responsible for what happened to the Jews. That was the Roman (Catholic) Empire that waged war against the Christians, Jews and non Catholics - 605 years of Inquisitions, starting world wars, assassinating presidents, kings, creating wars including WWII and the slaughter of 6 million Jews by their faithful Roman Catholic Son Hitler who they refused to ex-communicate.

Oh, look, Mommy, a silly home-schooled amateur theological historian who thinks that Roman Catholics are not Christians...

It's a funny little creature, isn't it, Mommy?

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Newflash, sport..

Roman Catholics (in the West) and Greek Orthodox (in the East) are ORIGINAL RECIPE Christianity...

Ya'll came in second, and much, much later, with the far less-popular do-it-yourself EXTRA CRISPY version, built on the Original...

Plagiarists and copy-cats...

 

[Kondor3]

...Yes they are blood thirsty savages. You reap what you sow.

If you want to see bloodthirsty savages, one need look no further than the domain of Islam...

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

No they are not, Kondor. The Roman Catholic Church is a masterpiece of Satan and if you trust those people to keep their hands off of Jerusalem you are making a big mistake. Catholics are not Christians. If they were? They'd get out of there. You do not stay in a church that is responsible for the murders of 58 Million people over 605 years (Inquistions) and the slaughter of 6 million Jews by their faithful Roman Catholic son, Hitler. You need to research the history of the Roman Cult for yourself.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

...Yes they are blood thirsty savages. You reap what you sow.

If you want to see bloodthirsty savages, one need look no further than the domain of Islam...

The Roman Catholic Empire has them beat by a long shot. Who do you think Mohammad was instructed by? His own wife (Khadija) came out of the convent on assignment to lead him into much of what he was taught to believe. Read the testimony of ex-Jesuit Dr. Alberto Rivera for the full story. Islam was crafted by the Vatican early on. The Vatican has always been the enemy of the Jews and Christians. How can you even consider trusting such a cult after what they have done to the Jews? Are you meshugenah?

Cult of Roman Catholicism

Roman Catholicism
Founder: Emperor Constantine

Overview:
The Roman Catholic church, headquartered in Rome, Italy, has its own powerful City-State, the Vatican. The Roman Catholic church unofficially came into being in 312 A.D., at the time of the so-called "miraculous conversion" to Christianity of the Roman Emperor Constantine but he still worshipped the sun god. Although Christianity was not made the official religion of the Roman Empire until the edicts of Theodosius I in 380 and 381 A.D., Constantine, from 312 A.D. until his death in 337, was engaged in the process of simultaneously building pagan temples and Christian churches, and was slowly turning over the reins of his pagan priesthood to the Bishop of Rome. However, the family of Constantine did not give up the last vestige of his priesthood until after the disintegration of the Roman Empire – that being the title the emperors bore as heads of the pagan priesthood – Pontifex Maximus – a title which the popes would inherit. The popes also inherited Constantine's titles as the self-appointed civil head of the church – Summus Pontifex (Vicar of Christ and Bishop of Bishops).

Prior to the time of Constantine's "conversion," Christians were persecuted not so much for their profession of faith in Christ, but because they would not include pagan deities in their faith as well. Then, with Constantine's emphasis on making his new-found Christianity palatable to the heathen in the Empire, the "Christianization" of these pagan deities was facilitated. For example, pagan rituals and idols gradually took on Christian meanings and names and were incorporated into "Christian" worship (e.g., "saints" replaced the cult of pagan gods in both worship and as patrons of cities; mother/son statues were renamed Mary and Jesus; etc.), and pagan holidays were reclassified as Christian holy days (e.g., the Roman Lupercalia and the feast of purification of Isis became the Feast of the Nativity; the Saturnalia celebrations were replaced by Christmas celebrations; an ancient festival of the dead was replaced by All Souls Day, rededicated to Christian heroes [now Halloween]; etc.). A transition had occurred – instead of being persecuted for failure to worship pagan deities, Christians who did not agree with the particular orthodoxy backed by the Emperor were now persecuted in the name of Christ! "Christianized" Rome had become the legitimate successor of pagan Rome! This is the sad origin of the Roman Catholic Church as it compromised from the very beginning with paganism and in doing so became a cult serving the creature (Mary) more than the creator (Jesus).

​

When Rome went from being pagan to Christian under Constantine, they had to find a replacement for the great mother of paganism. It was not until the time of Constantine that anyone began to look at Mary as a goddess. Since Mary was the mother of Jesus Christ, she was the most logical person to replace the pagan mother goddess. The pagans could continue their prayers and devotion to the mother goddess, only they would call her Mary. The pagans worshipped the mother as much or more than her son and this is exactly what the Roman Catholicism does. True Christianity teaches that Jesus Christ is to be worshipped – not his mother. The fact remains that Jesus never hinted at the idea of Mary worship nor did any of the apostles. Worshipping the mother goddess along with her child took place centuries before Jesus Christ was ever born in many different parts of the world. In 431 A.D. Mary worship became an official doctrine of the church in at the Council of Ephesus.

Since the formation of the Roman Empire, the Roman emperors (including Constantine) held the office of Pontifex Maximus (Supreme Priest) and were worshipped by the pagans as gods. Emperor Gratian in 376 A.D. refused the title of Pontifex Maximus, and from then on it was bestowed upon the bishop of Rome. From hereon, the bishop of Rome was to be the Supreme Priest to the pagans and the head of the Christian church; the streams of paganism and Christianity flowed together under the leadership of Pontifex Maximus, ultimately to be called the Pope. The question remains, how can a man at the same time be the Pontifex Maximus which was the head of the pagan mysteries and the head of the church? Although the Roman Catholic church claims that Peter was the first Pope, it is strange that we never read any such claim by Peter. The fact that Jesus never instituted the office of Pope in his church during his earthly ministry plainly shows that the Pope is neither Bishop of bishops nor the successor of the apostle Peter.

One issue that is very damaging to idea of a Pope is the fact that some of the popes were so depraved, even people who professed no religion at all were ashamed of them. Looking into the history of the papacy, it is easy to see that not all popes were holy men. Accusations against them included but were not limited to blasphemy, simony (the buying and selling of the papal office), perjury, murder, adultery, intercourse with virgins and nuns, incest, sodomy, bestiality, robbery, idolatry, magic, infidelity, and gross and unnatural immorality. Historians, even Roman Catholic historians will even attest to the fact there have been many sinful popes. Therefore, if popes are supposed to be the "representatives of Christ" here on earth and they are living an immoral lifestyle, should their commands still be obeyed if they are living in sin? No, it would be hypocritical for them to make rulings and decrees, and yet this is exactly what has been done by the popes. Jesus never said, "do as I say, not as I do". On the contrary, Jesus Christ led a holy life and we should follow His example. Here are a few examples:

• Pope Sergius III obtained the papal office by murder. He lived openly with a woman who bore him several illegitimate children. His reign began a period known as "the rule of the harlots".
  
  
• Pope John XII was an immoral man and whose palace was likened to a brothel. The bishop of Cremona, Luitprand said, "No honest lady dared to show herself in public, for Pope John had no respect either for single girls, married women, or widows – they were sure to be defiled by him, even on the tombs of the holy apostles, Peter and Paul."
  
  
• Pope Boniface VIII maintained his position through lavish distribution of stolen money. He was quoted saying, "to enjoy oneself and lie carnally with women or with boys is no more a sin than rubbing one's hands together."
  
  
• Pope John XXII was said to have seduced and violated three hundred nuns. He must have had a strong and insatiable libido for he kept a harem of no less than two hundred girls. He was called "the most depraved criminal who ever sat on the papal throne." A Vatican record says this about him, "His lordship, Pope John, committed perversity with the wife of his brother, incest with holy nuns, intercourse with virgins, adultery with the married, and all sorts of sex crimes... wholly given to sleep and other carnal desires, totally adverse to the life and teaching of Christ... he was publicly called the Devil incarnate."
  
  
• Pope Pius II was said to have been the father of many illegitimate children. He spoke openly of the methods he used to seduce women and he encouraged young men to also seduce women and even offered to instruct them in methods of self-indulgence.
  
  
• Pope Sixtus IV financed his wars by selling church offices to the highest bidders. He used the papacy to enrich himself and his family, for no less than eight cardinals were his nephews, some being given the position of cardinal even as a boy.
  
  
• Pope Alexander VI won the election of the papacy by bribery. He lived with a woman with whom he had a daughter; whom afterward he committed incest with and produced five children. He also lived in public incest with his two sisters. He conducted a sex orgy in the Vatican in which he had a banquet featuring fifty nude girls who danced and serviced the guests – and even offered prizes to the man who could engage in sexual intercourse the most times.
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• I've got news for you. Christians are to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. Not Baal worshippers!

 

[Kondor3]

...The Roman Catholic Empire has them beat by a long shot...

What "Roman Catholic Empire" is that - either by-name or in-practice?

Christianity only became legal within the Roman Empire in the time of Constantine, around 300 AD.

That's three hundred (300) years, between the birth of Jesus of Nazareth and that date of legalization.

Three hundred years, while the pagan Roman Empire destroyed the Jews as a Nation, and launched The Diaspora in earnest.

And, after being accorded primacy within the Roman Empire, there was another century of competition between pagan and Christian practitioners, before paganism finally lost.

That brings us to around 400 AD.

Another newsflash... the Empire in the West fell, in the middle-to-late 5th century (400s)... which didn't leave it a lot of time to become a Roman Catholic Empire.

As the Western half of the Roman Empire fell, the Church was the only viable institution, still on its feet, capable of relieving the worst of the population's suffering.

Over the centuries, the secular governance role assumed by the Western Church came to overshadow its spiritual role, and it lost its way, and was never the same, ever again.

But that sort of role-overshadowing took centuries and wasn't really entrenched until the 700s and 800s and 900s... long, long, LONG after the Western Empire was a memory.

... Who do you think Mohammad was instructed by? His own wife (Khadija) came out of the convent on assignment to lead him into much of what he was taught to believe. Read the testimony of ex-Jesuit Dr. Alberto Rivera for the full story. Islam was crafted by the Vatican early on...

Why in the world would anybody take the word of an EX-Jesuit with an axe to grind against his former Church, whose narrative reinforces the perceptions of the ignorant?

Muhammed's so-called religious philosophy was an amalgamated collection of Eastern Orthodox (Byzantine-Roman), Jewish, Manichean and Bedouin tribal gibberish, with a liberal sprinkling of self-aggrandizement, hallucination and outright bullshit mixed in for good measure.

In the year 632, the Vatican had very little influence in the Byzantine Middle East.

The idea that the Vatican created Islam is indefensible, and an embarrassing joke on you.

...The Vatican has always been the enemy of the Jews and Christians...

Silly, silly person...

The Vatican (i.e., the Roman Catholic Church) is the ORIGINAL flavor of Christianity... let us know when YOUR sideshow flavor of Christianity hits 2000 years old, eh?

...How can you even consider trusting such a cult after what they have done to the Jews? Are you meshugenah?

Christianity (Original-Recipe Edition) is a cult? Cool. Fun, ain't it?

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Stick to subject-matter where you have at least a nodding acquaintance with the basics; it's clear you're in FAR over your head on this one; although you get points for trying.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Things got off on the wrong foot between Christians and Jews when the Pharisees tricked the Romans into crucifying Jesus on trumped up charges, and then things got progressively worse when the Pharisees chased the Apostles around the Roman Empire, denouncing them in the synagogues and having them arrested and executed.

The Jews didn't see the long game, which was that one day Christianity would expand to be a vast religion of billions of people, while they would remain small in number and relatively powerless in the world. And everything the Jews did to the early Christians was written into the Bible so it would never be forgotten.

They also didn't forsee that a goat herder named Mohammed would start his own religion, based on false visions and prophesies, telling him that Jews were the ultimate enemy of Allah, and to kill them without mercy wherever they could be found, and that his religion would expand to be another billion people or so.

So really, Jews are in a precarious position, and will always be in a precarious position since their religion never got the numbers that Christianity and Islam got.

But God keeps Jews alive through the millennia, to remain a living proof that the Bible is true, and that his Chosen People remain chosen, even if that means they are chosen for special suffering rather than special reward.

Do they deserve what happens to them? I think at this point the question is irrelevant. There is no doubt that there is something going on we don't know about, some special rule that applies only to them. Any other people who suffered as much as them, and had as many setbacks, would be extinct by now. The Carthaginians, wiped out. The Aztecs, wiped out. The Britons, wiped out. The Neanderthals, an entire species, wiped out. The American Indians, once a vast people that covered a continent, nearly wiped out to the last man, woman and child.

Only the Jews last forever. God allows bad things to happen to them, but he also protects them so that they never go extinct. Here's what St. Teresa of Avila had to say, when she was thrown in a puddle of mud: “God, if this is how you treat your friends, no wonder you have so few.” The Jews could say: "God being your Chosen People is a pretty lousy deal, go choose someone else for awhile."

Jesus didn't exist and neither does (any) God or any other deity.
"Jewish" people never did anything to Christians.

You really shouldn't make statements you have no way of proving, it makes you look ridiculous