A political message board should remember this, the coldest ever Iowa Caucus, held during the "warmest year ever"

[EMH]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/15/weather/weather-iowa-caucuses-cold-dg/index.html

One might think some in politics and media might notice, but none ever do...


We had the coldest ever Iowa Caucus during the "warmest year ever."

 

[Crepitus]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/15/weather/weather-iowa-caucuses-cold-dg/index.html

One might think some in politics and media might notice, but none ever do...


We had the coldest ever Iowa Caucus during the "warmest year ever."

Global warming isn't real excuse #5: "I remember when it was cold here once"...

 

[EMH]

Global warming isn't real excuse #5: "I remember when it was cold here once"...

The argument that

"it was the warmest year on Earth, and Earth has been warming for 150 years"

is very much refuted by

"during the warmest ever year there were record low temperatures all over the place"


How can a planet that has been "warming for 150 years" still have regular record low temperatures??


A - because the planet is NOT WARMING

 

[alang1216]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/15/weather/weather-iowa-caucuses-cold-dg/index.html

One might think some in politics and media might notice, but none ever do...


We had the coldest ever Iowa Caucus during the "warmest year ever."

Weather is local, climate is global.

 

[EMH]

Weather is local, climate is global.

How much "warming" does Earth "need" to not have RECORD LOW TEMPERATURES???


LOL!!!


Answer = NOT MUCH

and it is NOT WARMING NOW.

 

[alang1216]

How much "warming" does Earth "need" to not have RECORD LOW TEMPERATURES???


LOL!!!


Answer = NOT MUCH

and it is NOT WARMING NOW.

What science is "Answer = NOT MUCH" based on? Or is this your gut talking?

 

[EMH]

What science is "Answer = NOT MUCH" based on? Or is this your gut talking?

LOL!!!

I see. You think a planet can "warm" for more than a century and still have record low temperatures.

Then maybe, since you are such a "genius," you can answer some basic climate questions for us...

1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?

 

[alang1216]

LOL!!!

I see. You think a planet can "warm" for more than a century and still have record low temperatures.

Then maybe, since you are such a "genius," you can answer some basic climate questions for us...

1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?

You won't answer my simple question but expect me to give you a complete course on climatology? Thanks, but no.

 

[EMH]

You won't answer my simple question but expect me to give you a complete course on climatology? Thanks, but no.

LOL!!!


OK, a planet that has "warmed" 2+F over 100+ years should have NO RECORD LOW TEMPERATURES...

DISPROVE THAT.

 

[ding]

Weather is local, climate is global.

And for the last 3 million years was driven by glacial cycles of the northern hemisphere. When the northern hemisphere glaciated, the entire planet cooled. And when the northern hemisphere deglaciated, the entire planet warmed.

So is climate global? Or is it driven by the climate of one specific region of the planet?

 

[ding]

What science is "Answer = NOT MUCH" based on? Or is this your gut talking?

Based upon the geologic record, less than another 2C to effect the thermohaline current and trigger the next glacial period.

 

[Crepitus]

The argument that

"it was the warmest year on Earth, and Earth has been warming for 150 years"

is very much refuted by

"during the warmest ever year there were record low temperatures all over the place"


How can a planet that has been "warming for 150 years" still have regular record low temperatures??


A - because the planet is NOT WARMING

And back to excuse #4.

 

[alang1216]

LOL!!!


OK, a planet that has "warmed" 2+F over 100+ years should have NO RECORD LOW TEMPERATURES...

DISPROVE THAT.

That is not how it works, you made the claim, you PROVE THAT.

Case in point:

OK, a planet that has "warmed" 2+F over 100+ years should have multiple RECORD LOW TEMPERATURES...​

DISPROVE THAT.​

 

[alang1216]

And for the last 3 million years was driven by glacial cycles of the northern hemisphere. When the northern hemisphere glaciated, the entire planet cooled. And when the northern hemisphere deglaciated, the entire planet warmed.

So is climate global? Or is it driven by the climate of one specific region of the planet?

I don't claim to know the answers to your questions but, it seems to me, that if you say "the entire planet cooled" or "the entire planet warmed" you are saying climate is global, whatever the actual cause.

 

[ding]

I don't claim to know the answers to your questions but, it seems to me, that if you say "the entire planet cooled" or "the entire planet warmed" you are saying climate is global, whatever the actual cause.

I am saying the dominant climate feature of the last 3 million years is driven by a specific region and how heat is distributed to that region.

 

[alang1216]

Based upon the geologic record, less than another 2C to effect the thermohaline current and trigger the next glacial period.

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This doesn't appear to be settled science:

Humlum is at it again​

 

[alang1216]

I am saying the dominant climate feature of the last 3 million years is driven by a specific region and how heat is distributed to that region.

All I'm saying is that EMH is confusing weather with climate.

 

[ding]

This doesn't appear to be settled science:

Humlum is at it again​

What's not? Glacial cycles? Or the the role the ocean plays in distributing heat?

 

[ding]

All I'm saying is that EMH is confusing weather with climate.

Ok, but that happens all the time from both sides of the debate.

 

[alang1216]

What's not? Glacial cycles? Or the the role the ocean plays in distributing heat?

AGW I believe.