A Perfect Example Of Modern Environmentalism

Yeah charging for item that were once free doesnt change anything. People will still take them like they're free!
 
We should actually promote more plastic bags because they're actually good for the environment

Imposing a ten cent fee on plastic bags won't stop people from using them. It's just another mechanism to raise money for the overly bloated California government.
 
10 cents a bag isn't going to stop anyone from using paper either. If you buy 4 bags per week, that's only $20 per year, just under $2 per month. For very few people would that even remotely be an issue. And if you don't have 10 cents and really need a bag, the stores typically will give you one anyway. Otherwise you will have all your crap on a conveyor belt, holding up the lines, and pissing people off. It is a completely ineffective, useless law that only makes life worse.
 
We should actually promote more plastic bags because they're actually good for the environment

Imposing a ten cent fee on plastic bags won't stop people from using them. It's just another mechanism to raise money for the overly bloated California government.

Nope you're right, changing something from free to a fee doesnt do anything....
 
We should actually promote more plastic bags because they're actually good for the environment

Imposing a ten cent fee on plastic bags won't stop people from using them. It's just another mechanism to raise money for the overly bloated California government.

Nope you're right, changing something from free to a fee doesnt do anything....

Surely, you have more intellect than what you're portraying, at least I hope so.
 
Manufacturing a paper bag uses as much energy and pollutes as much as manufactring a paper bag. paper bags deplete forests, plastic bags dont. Paper bags take up about 3 times as much space as a plastic bag and weigh more. so distributing paper bags has a larger environmental foot print than plastic bags. more trucks are required, more fuel is used, more storage space is required. paper bags take up more space in a land fill. once in a landfill both degrade at about the same rate.

these are nothing more than feel good laws by clueless liberals
 
Manufacturing a paper bag uses as much energy and pollutes as much as manufactring a paper bag. paper bags deplete forests, plastic bags dont. Paper bags take up about 3 times as much space as a plastic bag and weigh more. so distributing paper bags has a larger environmental foot print than plastic bags. more trucks are required, more fuel is used, more storage space is required. paper bags take up more space in a land fill. once in a landfill both degrade at about the same rate.

these are nothing more than feel good laws by clueless liberals

But OIL!!!!!
 
We should actually promote more plastic bags because they're actually good for the environment

Imposing a ten cent fee on plastic bags won't stop people from using them. It's just another mechanism to raise money for the overly bloated California government.

Nope you're right, changing something from free to a fee doesnt do anything....

Surely, you have more intellect than what you're portraying, at least I hope so.

I remember the local chinese spot used to give away soy sauce and people would take heaps of em because they were free. Then they changed it and started charging for it.

...and it didnt deter anyones behavior at all.
 
We should actually promote more plastic bags because they're actually good for the environment

Imposing a ten cent fee on plastic bags won't stop people from using them. It's just another mechanism to raise money for the overly bloated California government.

Nope you're right, changing something from free to a fee doesnt do anything....

Surely, you have more intellect than what you're portraying, at least I hope so.

I remember the local chinese spot used to give away soy sauce and people would take heaps of em because they were free. Then they changed it and started charging for it.

...and it didnt deter anyones behavior at all.

A. Were they charging a dime? B. Is soy sauce necessary to carry your multiple containers of Chinese food back to your car?
 
Manufacturing a paper bag uses as much energy and pollutes as much as manufactring a paper bag. paper bags deplete forests, plastic bags dont. Paper bags take up about 3 times as much space as a plastic bag and weigh more. so distributing paper bags has a larger environmental foot print than plastic bags. more trucks are required, more fuel is used, more storage space is required. paper bags take up more space in a land fill. once in a landfill both degrade at about the same rate.

these are nothing more than feel good laws by clueless liberals

Like I said paper bags are bad and plastic bags are good for the environment ....in opposite world
 
We should actually promote more plastic bags because they're actually good for the environment

Imposing a ten cent fee on plastic bags won't stop people from using them. It's just another mechanism to raise money for the overly bloated California government.

Nope you're right, changing something from free to a fee doesnt do anything....

Surely, you have more intellect than what you're portraying, at least I hope so.

I remember the local chinese spot used to give away soy sauce and people would take heaps of em because they were free. Then they changed it and started charging for it.

...and it didnt deter anyones behavior at all.

A. Were they charging a dime? B. Is soy sauce necessary to carry your multiple containers of Chinese food back to your car?

5 cents or 25 cents. It really doesnt matter because people are driven by whether something is free or not. People actually abhor free samples of things
 
California (or los angeles , I don't know ) passed a plastic bags law.
someone needs to explain to me how paying 10 cents per bag helps the environment.

The same way paying "sin taxes" on cigarettes and booze allegedly help stop lung cancer and liver disease.

Allow me to introduce you to the hypothesis of Pigouvian taxes.
 
Imposing a ten cent fee on plastic bags won't stop people from using them. It's just another mechanism to raise money for the overly bloated California government.

Nope you're right, changing something from free to a fee doesnt do anything....

Surely, you have more intellect than what you're portraying, at least I hope so.

I remember the local chinese spot used to give away soy sauce and people would take heaps of em because they were free. Then they changed it and started charging for it.

...and it didnt deter anyones behavior at all.

A. Were they charging a dime? B. Is soy sauce necessary to carry your multiple containers of Chinese food back to your car?

5 cents or 25 cents. It really doesnt matter because people are driven by whether something is free or not. People actually abhor free samples of things

Nobody gives a shit about paying a dime for a plastic bag to take their groceries out of the store to their car. I didn't give a shit about the extra dime I had to pay for a bag in San Francisco last year when I was there for work and bought lunch from the office building across the street and took it back over to my office. You think I or anyone else is going to miss a dime? What would have upset me was dropping one of the containers of food or the drink I was carrying if I didn't have a bag to carry them in.

If they really wanted to influence people's behavior they'd have made it a dollar a bag. Of course, they didn't, because they know damn well there would be a backlash from the public, hence, as I said before, this is all about more revenue and nothing about the environment.
 
Wow! Conservatives do not have a clue! Plastic bags are terrible for the environment. They clog our storm sewers, they litter our streets, they are made of oil and they will sit in a landfill for better than 8,000 years before degrading. That's about how long we have had written language.

The fees are not a means of screwing anyone. Everyone has the resources to buy a reusable grocery bag.

Only a warped, frustrated, willfully ignorant American Conservative could clumsily try to push this issue through a template of insanity and then cry that their "freedoms" are being eroded because they will now find it expensive to pollute.
 
Wow! Conservatives do not have a clue! Plastic bags are terrible for the environment. They clog our storm sewers, they litter our streets, they are made of oil and they will sit in a landfill for better than 8,000 years before degrading. That's about how long we have had written language.

The fees are not a means of screwing anyone. Everyone has the resources to buy a reusable grocery bag.

Only a warped, frustrated, willfully ignorant American Conservative could clumsily try to push this issue through a template of insanity and then cry that their "freedoms" are being eroded because they will now find it expensive to pollute.
10 cents per bag is not making it expensive to pollute. It has absolutely no effect on the usage of bags.
 
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Nope you're right, changing something from free to a fee doesnt do anything....

Surely, you have more intellect than what you're portraying, at least I hope so.

I remember the local chinese spot used to give away soy sauce and people would take heaps of em because they were free. Then they changed it and started charging for it.

...and it didnt deter anyones behavior at all.

A. Were they charging a dime? B. Is soy sauce necessary to carry your multiple containers of Chinese food back to your car?

5 cents or 25 cents. It really doesnt matter because people are driven by whether something is free or not. People actually abhor free samples of things

Nobody gives a shit about paying a dime for a plastic bag to take their groceries out of the store to their car.

Thats funny because the concerned cons said it hurts the poor and its not fair. You should tell them that

I didn't give a shit about the extra dime I had to pay for a bag in San Francisco last year when I was there for work and bought lunch from the office building across the street and took it back over to my office.

Congratulations!

You think I or anyone else is going to miss a dime? What would have upset me was dropping one of the containers of food or the drink I was carrying if I didn't have a bag to carry them in.

Maybe they will miss their dimes but missing dimes isnt the point here unless...like it was a sentimental dime

If they really wanted to influence people's behavior they'd have made it a dollar a bag. Of course, they didn't, because they know damn well there would be a backlash from the public, hence, as I said before, this is all about more revenue and nothing about the environment.

No 10 dollars per bag!

yes its all about revenue thats why they charged a measly 10 cents instead of a dollar because they're greedy
 
Wow! Conservatives do not have a clue! Plastic bags are terrible for the environment. They clog our storm sewers, they litter our streets, they are made of oil and they will sit in a landfill for better than 8,000 years before degrading. That's about how long we have had written language.

The fees are not a means of screwing anyone. Everyone has the resources to buy a reusable grocery bag.

Only a warped, frustrated, willfully ignorant American Conservative could clumsily try to push this issue through a template of insanity and then cry that their "freedoms" are being eroded because they will now find it expensive to pollute.
10 cents per bag is not making it expensive to pollute. It has absolutely no effect on the usage of bags.

So why are you mad about it then?
 
You can't appreciate the full idiocy of it, until you live in a place where they have forced the poor stores to adhere to this ridiculous policy.

I sometimes shop in Eugene, that liberal shithole. You have to bring your own, or buy them in the store.

Way to help poor people...prevent Walmart, Target and Old Navy from providing cool bags that can be re-used for other things, gratis. Instead, force people to pay more for less quality.

It is the progressive way.
 

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