A new WW3 flash point: Kaliningrad? Or a NATO hostage Putin needs to consider? (Poll)

[kyzr]

I never hard of Kaliningrad before last week when a US general warned Putin not to take any NATO territory, or Russia loses Kaliningrad.

NATO warns Russia about seizing territory in Europe

General Christopher Donahue, commander of U.S. Army Europe and Africa, said allies could seize Kaliningrad "in a timeframe that is unheard of."

www.newsweek.com

NATO members face repeated warnings from intelligence and defense officials that Russia could directly threaten alliance territory within the next five years, signaling an urgent need for coordinated defense investments and operational reforms.
NATO commander warned that its forces could capture Russia's heavily fortified Kaliningrad region "in a timeframe that is unheard of" if necessary.
General Christopher Donahue, commander of U.S. Army Europe and Africa, made the remark as the alliance unveiled a new Eastern Flank defense plan at the Association of the U.S. Army's inaugural LandEuro conference on Wednesday.

I'm not sure why Russia was given "Konigsburg" after WW2. They captured it and kept it as a warm water seaport. It sounds to me that NATO is saying if Russia takes any NATO territory Kaliningrad gets captured and Russia loses it warm water port.

 

[defcon4]

I never hard of Kaliningrad before last week when a US general warned Putin not to take any NATO territory, or Russia loses Kaliningrad.

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NATO warns Russia about seizing territory in Europe

General Christopher Donahue, commander of U.S. Army Europe and Africa, said allies could seize Kaliningrad "in a timeframe that is unheard of."

www.newsweek.com

NATO members face repeated warnings from intelligence and defense officials that Russia could directly threaten alliance territory within the next five years, signaling an urgent need for coordinated defense investments and operational reforms.
NATO commander warned that its forces could capture Russia's heavily fortified Kaliningrad region "in a timeframe that is unheard of" if necessary.
General Christopher Donahue, commander of U.S. Army Europe and Africa, made the remark as the alliance unveiled a new Eastern Flank defense plan at the Association of the U.S. Army's inaugural LandEuro conference on Wednesday.

I'm not sure why Russia was given "Konigsburg" after WW2. They captured it and kept it as a warm water seaport. It sounds to me that NATO is saying if Russia takes any NATO territory Kaliningrad gets captured and Russia loses it warm water port.

...and the scare tactics are going on filling the already full coffers of the fat cats.

The dumbasses never ask "Cui bono?"

On one hand they say: "Russia is weak, its army is worthless." On the other hand they say: "Russia will occupy Europe."
Which is it?

Meantime the intense saber rattling is keeping the dumbasses distracted from the sad fact that their countries are being occupied in real time, their nations are being eradicated by bringing into their countries more and more scum. (That's the real occupation, not the unrealistic potential of the Russian one.)

 

[kyzr]

...and the scare tactics are going on filling the already full coffers of the fat cats. The dumbasses never ask "Cui bono?"
On one hand they say: "Russia is weak, its army is worthless." On the other hand they say: "Russia will occupy Europe."
Which is it?
Meantime the intense saber rattling is keeping the dumbasses distracted from the sad fact that their countries are being occupied in real time, their nations are being eradicated by bringing into their countries more and more scum. (That's the real occupation, not the unrealistic potential of the Russian one.)

Unmute this and you'll never guess that this is in NYC. So the global intifada is happening here.

 

[Deadstick]

Tel Aviv? no New York.

 

[Zebra]

I never hard of Kaliningrad before last week when a US general warned Putin not to take any NATO territory, or Russia loses Kaliningrad.

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NATO warns Russia about seizing territory in Europe

General Christopher Donahue, commander of U.S. Army Europe and Africa, said allies could seize Kaliningrad "in a timeframe that is unheard of."

www.newsweek.com

NATO members face repeated warnings from intelligence and defense officials that Russia could directly threaten alliance territory within the next five years, signaling an urgent need for coordinated defense investments and operational reforms.
NATO commander warned that its forces could capture Russia's heavily fortified Kaliningrad region "in a timeframe that is unheard of" if necessary.
General Christopher Donahue, commander of U.S. Army Europe and Africa, made the remark as the alliance unveiled a new Eastern Flank defense plan at the Association of the U.S. Army's inaugural LandEuro conference on Wednesday.

I'm not sure why Russia was given "Konigsburg" after WW2. They captured it and kept it as a warm water seaport. It sounds to me that NATO is saying if Russia takes any NATO territory Kaliningrad gets captured and Russia loses it warm water port.

Have you heard of Königsberg before?

 

[kyzr]

Have you heard of Königsberg before?

Not really. It hasn't existed since 1046. It just struck me as odd that "Russia" owns it. I bet that really burns Putin's ass that Latvia and Lithuania are blocking Russian Oblasts from being contiguous.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

But the Poles will take Kaliningrad.

Will the Russians retaliate.

No. They are all talk.

 

[defcon4]

But the Poles will take Kaliningrad.

Will the Russians retaliate.

No. They are all talk.

Sure, if they want to get nuked.

 

[Litwin]

Kaliningrad gets captured and Russia loses it warm water port.

1) Königsberg (Kaliningrad) is an island inside of 2 NATO countries without any land connection with Moscow empire proper
2) there ARE many holes inside of NATO, this is N1 ,question , if Moscow empire attacks and occupies the “Pomor Islands”, what NATO is gonna do , in this situation ?

Thread 'Moscow 🇷🇺 empire Targets Svalbard in Arctic Power Grab, Plans to Rename It “Pomor Islands”'

Mar 25, 2025

Given the Muscovite ulus's historical pattern of eradicating the Novgorod Republic's culture, including the Pomor heritage, its current attempts to militarize Svalbard in direct violation of international treaties, and its invocation of the 'Pomor Islands' name – is this not a continuation of a 'ghazawat' style imperialist expansion, a calculated steppe-empire tactic to seize territory and erase indigenous identities, now being directed against Norway and the Arctic...

• Litwin

Thread 'Tensions on Svalbard between Moscow empire and Norwegians | Can Moscow attack us in Norwegian Svalbard ?'

Sep 30, 2023

so what if Moscow empire attack us in Norwegian Svalbard ?​

for these who dont know, Svalbard is outside of our defensive NATO pact ....
ps The Moscow illegal settlements need to have the kind of accidents caused by carelessly discarded cigarettes!

Tensions on Svalbard between Moscow empire and Norwegians | Can Moscow attack us in Norwegian Svalbard ?​

• Litwin

3) Königsberg rightfully belongs to Belarus

The dictator of Belarus, Alexander Lukasenka, has said he had always called Kaliningrad "mine"

Putin ally jokes over taking Russian territory

Alexander Lukashenko made the comments in a meeting with the governor of the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Litwin]

Sure, if they want to get nuked.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Kaliningrad, Poland has a really good sound to it.

 

[kyzr]

1) Königsberg (Kaliningrad) is an island inside of 2 NATO countries without any land connection with Moscow empire proper

True. I'm glad its inside NATO's protection.

2) there ARE many holes inside of NATO, this is N1 ,question , if Moscow empire attacks and occupies the “Pomor Islands”, what NATO is gonna do , in this situation ?

Nothing.

3) Königsberg rightfully belongs to Belarus
The dictator of Belarus, Alexander Lukasenka, has said he had always called Kaliningrad "mine"

So what? Belarus can occupy it or not. Kaliningrad isn't part of NATO.
Point being that there are several flash points that can start WW3

 

[the watcher]

We need to get out of NATO, the UN, and get our own DoD under civilian control and back in the defend America business, and out of the global Empire support business. NATO Can Seize Russia’s Kaliningrad ‘Faster Than Ever,’ Says US General

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Isolationism is not in the future for the US

 

[kyzr]

We need to get out of NATO, the UN, and get our own DoD under civilian control and back in the defend America business, and out of the global Empire support business. NATO Can Seize Russia’s Kaliningrad ‘Faster Than Ever,’ Says US General

Why NATO?
NATO is a very powerful alliance.
I agree the UN is a waste of money, but its better to have a seat there than to let China and Russia take it over.
I also agree that the DOD needs a budget cut.

 

[Ringo]

 

[The Duke]

We need to get out of NATO, the UN, and get our own DoD under civilian control and back in the defend America business, and out of the global Empire support business. NATO Can Seize Russia’s Kaliningrad ‘Faster Than Ever,’ Says US General

Isolationism is not in the future for the US

Yes, but a lot of things definitely need an update.

 

[The Duke]

He mighta just killed somebody.

 

[The Duke]

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[Deadstick]

Because the psychos enjoy murder like all serial killers.