Zone1 A Messianic Jew gives a testimony

[ding]

The end of the ice age produced as flood but the ark story is clearly not possible

Try reading what I wrote.

They used embellishment and morals to make the account more memorable and easier to pass down. That’s how they passed down HISTORY, wisdom and other important information that was worth passing down. Orally. In stories. From generation to generation. For thousands of years. They weren’t writing a bible.

 

[ding]

The end of the ice age produced as flood

I doubt the end of glacial periods could be categorized as floods.

And you are using the phrase ice age incorrectly. The ice age began 3 to 5 million years ago and we are still in it. What you are calling an ice age is a glacial period within the ice age.

 

[alang1216]

When was the birth of Christianity?

The first few decades after Jesus' crucifixion.

 

[Donald H]

The flood is an historical event of an unusual extraordinary flood that did occur. It was so unusual and extraordinary that that history was worth passing down. That is the main point that was being passed down. They used embellishment and morals to make the account more memorable and easier to pass down. That’s how they passed down history, wisdom and other important information that was worth passing down. Orally. In stories. From generation to generation. For thousands of years. They weren’t writing a bible.

These accounts were authored in a time when polytheism was the dominant belief. These were the accounts of the first monotheists and have a monotheistic slant that differed from the polytheistic accounts of the day.

Excellent! You've come a long way on attempting to reconcile bible lies with your intellectual understanding that the stories are bunk.

I'm happy to finally be able to say that we're on the same page!

The only part I might change is your part about the meteorite. That's a bit over the top for me, and the Christians for sure! We must bite the bullet and leave them a little bait. How about something like a wall breaking that was holding back the dead sea, or something. I don't think the god would have tried to build cover with a meteorite??

 

[Donald H]

I doubt the end of glacial periods could be categorized as floods.

And you are using the phrase ice age incorrectly. The ice age began 3 to 5 million years ago and we are still in it. What you are calling an ice age is a glacial period within the ice age.

You shouldn't have tried the meteorite on them. Now you have both sides back to treading water over an issue we know is ridiculous right off the start.

 

[ding]

The first few decades after Jesus' crucifixion.

So the apostle stayed in hiding after Jesus was crucified?

That’s not how history recorded it. The first Christians were Jews who lived through the events of Christ.

 

[Hafar1014]

So the apostle stayed in hiding after Jesus was crucified?

That’s not how history recorded it. The first Christians were Jews who lived through the events of Christ.

Christianity didnt exist until 60 years after his death assuming he even existed at all.

 

[ding]

You shouldn't have tried the meteorite on them. Now you have both sides back to treading water over an issue we know is ridiculous right off the start.

Laughing leads to crying. Good luck with that.

 

[ding]

Excellent! You've come a long way on attempting to reconcile bible lies with your intellectual understanding that the stories are bunk.

I'm happy to finally be able to say that we're on the same page!

The only part I might change is your part about the meteorite. That's a bit over the top for me, and the Christians for sure! We must bite the bullet and leave them a little bait. How about something like a wall breaking that was holding back the dead sea, or something. I don't think the god would have tried to build cover with a meteorite??

But they aren’t bunk. They are valuable windows into the past.

The games you play reflect on you and no one else.

 

[ding]

Christianity didnt exist until 60 years after his death assuming he even existed at all.

Incorrect.

 

[Donald H]

But they aren’t bunk. They are valuable windows into the past.

The games you play reflect on you and no one else.

We can and should agree, for the sake of our team. I'll withdraw the 'bunk' in good faith.

But you too my friend, what is bunk if not your meteorite-flood?

 

[Donald H]

Laughing leads to crying. Good luck with that.

We can have our flood but let's not make it even less believable for the Christians than the giraffe heads sticking out of the upper deck!

 

[ding]

We can and should agree, for the sake of our team. I'll withdraw the 'bunk' in good faith.

But you too my friend, what is bunk if not your meteorite-flood?

We aren’t a team and the Burkle crater isn’t bunk.

 

[Donald H]

So the apostle stayed in hiding after Jesus was crucified?

That’s not how history recorded it. The first Christians were Jews who lived through the events of Christ.

Our team needs to be tolerant of all versions of the allegory. Why does it matter to us that they might have been the Jews again?

That's like starting an argument over Unicorns!

 

[Donald H]

We aren’t a team and the Burkle crater isn’t bunk.

We don't need to go public yet.

And no, the crater isn't bunk It's just that the god sending a meteorite is a bit melodramatic don't you think?

 

[Votto]

Your preoccupied with sin when you need to focus on morals as the answer. Jews elevate morals as the message Christians elevate sin because the whole point of Christianity is control by fear.

But if it were not for sin, why worry about morality?

Makes no sense.

 

[ding]

Our team needs to be tolerant of all versions of the allegory. Why does it matter to us that they might have been the Jews again?

That's like starting an argument over Unicorns!

Laughing leads to crying.

 

[Hafar1014]

But if it were not for sin, why worry about morality?

Makes no sense.

You choose to emphasize the sin I as Jew whose people created Genesis emphasize the benefit of free will morals and choosing to come to God. But heres the amazing thing. With two different interpretations today Jews and Christians are morally alike.

 

[ding]

We don't need to go public yet.

And no, the crater isn't bunk It's just that the god sending a meteorite is a bit melodramatic don't you think?

How many times do I have to explain it to you?

 

[Donald H]

How many times do I have to explain it to you?

Alright then my friend, let's just go with the meteorite then. As if it makes any difference??