A former Trump supporter describes her escape

[bigrebnc1775]

And as usual the reprehensible right attempts to defend the indefensible.

Unfortunately, those who realize the truth constitute tiny minority – the majority will continue to support and defend Trump, along with his disastrous, authoritarian agenda of hatred and lies, as conservatives responding to this thread demonstrate.

You're losing your plantation slaves stop being so bitter. They are becoming more reliant on their own self worth and not what you fascist democrats want to hand out.

 

[leftwinger]

Nonsense. Many times here and elsewhere objections to Trumps policies and actions have been listed in obscene detail. You all who worship him ignore them, downplay them, or go off on a rant about how awful Biden or Democrats are.

You all won’t discuss Trump except in the vein of his being the greatest President, Man, and American ever.

yet you don’t post any bad Trump policy either? huh? Waiting on MSLSD to re-inform you? Obidens anti-American BS is constantly out there. The stream of EO on day1 killing American progress. Open borders, killing energy, inflation, Election fraud, Police State, Global warming BS on and on endlessly bad. you people own it all.

 

[Kruska]

Well, that's what this has always been about for me. 2016 showed me that America isn't what I thought it was.

It's not about the issues. I have several agreements with the Right. But there is no way that a significant portion of the country would fall for this. Or so I thought.

This isn't about politics for me, and never has been. This is about who and what we are.

Let me put it this way - there are only two parties in the USA, that essentially promote the same general policy. "screw the small wallets", whilst we "the politicians" and our "elites" enjoy our lives.
In order to distinguish themselves and thus appeal to their respective hardcore supporters as supposedly having a different policy - one went for "social" topics and promises, and the other for nationalism and promises - 45 years of "die Commie die" - nothing else.

The Republicans lost their general support after Communism wasn't around anymore, and the Bush's did their best to dismantle the remaining integrity of the Republicans.

The Democrats (due to 45 years of lefty Liberal manipulation) took their policy to extremes - that a "normal", average American simply doesn't agree to, and the Republicans void of any "inspiring" alternative policy, simply took to nationalism without changing any of these prevailing "extreme" issues.

Then the demagogue Trump came up - (IMO he is far to simplistic and naive to come up on his own) there are clearly people behind him - making use of him addressing the discontent Americans in this typical lowlife Trump manner. Due to the discontent amongst the American population, "they" created this cult themselves - thus enabling the human scumbag to literally shake of his initial masters/masterminds.

He is now running around free and uncontrolled (has no idea as to what governing actually means) and simply bathes every day in the naivety of his cult.

If the Republicans would kick him out (too late IMO) - he will get around 20% in an election with an own party, and the Republicans another 20%, thus ridding themselves out of lucrative jobs and bye, bye Presidency. As such they presently simply put up with him. Since he might indeed give them a chance to participate in the big $ government business ahh... governing via a Republican presidency.

What is simply missing is a US party that factually would represent "the small wallets" and the normal-conservative American mindset, via a "halfway" honest and feasible policy. It might really come into existence after especially Trump or the Democrats messed up the USA for another 4 years.

What do you think, believe or hope for?

 

[Crepitus]

Escape ? Well that's some drama queen bullshit. What Trump supporters where holding her against her will ?

Cults do that. Not physical restraint but psychological controls.

 

[SweetSue92]

I can only imagine the attacks this will inspire (yawn), but this young lady says some important things here. She describes being raised on talk radio, and ultimately how she made her escape.

And for those who scream "TDS!", we both know: This is isn't about him. It never HAS been. It's about YOU.



Some salient moments, exactly the same opinions and behaviors we see here:

• "Sometimes I think Republicans develop develop conspiracy theories to deal with things they just can't accept. They're in total denial, and they'd rather live in a fake reality than the real one".
• "I believed that Democrats were totally evil and that Republicans were the good guys".
• "I fell right in line. When you think the other side is evil, you can't imagine voting for anyone other than your own guy".
• "I voted for Trump. I thought I had some unconvential wisdom that other women didn't."
• On her escape: "It was a process of realizing what I already knew deep down: That he (Trump) was unprincipled and unpresidential."
• "He should be absolutely nowhere near the Oval Office".
• "Once that I came to the realization that he has a mental illness, everything started to make sense. That's when I got angry".
• "It showed me the truth: That everything the party said they believed in was a lie. Every value was a lie. Because if you can stand by a man like Donald Trump, you didn't have values. You didn't have principles. Period. To me, it lifted the curtain on everything".

Ah, Mac posts this crap even on Christmas Day and can't see the delicious irony in even THIS:

• "I believed that Democrats were totally evil and that Republicans were the good guys".
• "I fell right in line. When you think the other side is evil, you can't imagine voting for anyone other than your own guy".

 

[Kruska]

Poor, Krusty. You feel better about yourself knowing Biden has a crime family syndicate?

Proof?
Charges running in court?
Any convictions, or liability court sentences yet?

You need to do far better then just forwarding "claims" - take an example of how these manipulated and corrupt Democrats are handling Trump. You can learn a lot from them.

 

[leftwinger]

I can only imagine the attacks this will inspire (yawn), but this young lady says some important things here. She describes being raised on talk radio, and ultimately how she made her escape.

And for those who scream "TDS!", we both know: This is isn't about him. It never HAS been. It's about YOU.



Some salient moments, exactly the same opinions and behaviors we see here:

• "Sometimes I think Republicans develop develop conspiracy theories to deal with things they just can't accept. They're in total denial, and they'd rather live in a fake reality than the real one".
• "I believed that Democrats were totally evil and that Republicans were the good guys".
• "I fell right in line. When you think the other side is evil, you can't imagine voting for anyone other than your own guy".
• "I voted for Trump. I thought I had some unconvential wisdom that other women didn't."
• On her escape: "It was a process of realizing what I already knew deep down: That he (Trump) was unprincipled and unpresidential."
• "He should be absolutely nowhere near the Oval Office".
• "Once that I came to the realization that he has a mental illness, everything started to make sense. That's when I got angry".
• "It showed me the truth: That everything the party said they believed in was a lie. Every value was a lie. Because if you can stand by a man like Donald Trump, you didn't have values. You didn't have principles. Period. To me, it lifted the curtain on everything".

All day, everyday this blackgatermac independent lol! Bunch of phonies post pro-Obiden anti-American anti-Trump BS. Weird isn’t it you black-motuthed ungrateful spoiled moldy bag of human garbage.//

 

[Crepitus]

Mac1958

does he make them feel smart? or just like they are "inside" a conspiracy of their own?

the q anon stuff is baffling as well. "do your own research" so a few minutes on 4 chan makes you an illuminati?

seasons greetings. perhaps victory in this xmas war next year.

Conspiracy theories are all about making people who aren't smart feel that way. That is why they are so attractive to a certain segment of the population.

 

[SweetSue92]

Nonsense. Many times here and elsewhere objections to Trumps policies and actions have been listed in obscene detail. You all who worship him ignore them, downplay them, or go off on a rant about how awful Biden or Democrats are.

You all won’t discuss Trump except in the vein of his being the greatest President, Man, and American ever.

I do, I have and I will. I have said time and again I do not admire him as a person, yet he was a good president. I guess that doesn't fit your or GiGi/Mac's paradigm though, so it gets dismissed.

Anyway on Mac's part he has a pathological need to feel superior so there's that

 

[Crepitus]

That indicates that she is an extremely suggestible individual.

And explains why she was a tRumpling to start with.

 

[SweetSue92]

Conspiracy theories are all about making people who aren't smart feel that way. That is why they are so attractive to a certain segment of the population.

We win conspiracy theories for the next decade on this alone:

"You won't get Covid if you get these vaccinations"

 

[SweetSue92]

Conspiracy theories are all about making people who aren't smart feel that way. That is why they are so attractive to a certain segment of the population.

PS I mean the conspiracy theories are winning like this:

"If you get these vaccinations not only will you still GET Covid, not only will you still SPREAD Covid, but you might get heart problems, cancer, and autoimmunes too, not to mention the effects of the free-floating proteins and other nonsense we put in there. But it was an emergency, you know! Surely you understand!"

 

[Crepitus]

yet you don’t post any bad Trump policy either? huh? Waiting on MSLSD to re-inform you? Obidens anti-American BS is constantly out there. The stream of EO on day1 killing American progress. Open borders, killing energy, inflation, Election fraud, Police State, Global warming BS on and on endlessly bad. you people own it all.

Basing his foreign policy on what Putin wants is a bad policy. Downplaying the coronavirus was a bad policy. BIllions for a useless wall is a bad policy. Tax cuts for the already wealthy is a bad policy. Handicapping the EPA is a bad policy. as is killing the consumer protection thing.

The list goes on and on and on.

 

[SavannahMann]

yet you don’t post any bad Trump policy either? huh? Waiting on MSLSD to re-inform you? Obidens anti-American BS is constantly out there. The stream of EO on day1 killing American progress. Open borders, killing energy, inflation, Election fraud, Police State, Global warming BS on and on endlessly bad. you people own it all.

I said what happens is you guys go off on a rant about how awful the Democrats are. You denounce it. And then go off on a rant about how awful Democrats are.

Fine. Want examples? Let’s get to it shall we? I’ll expect cogent replies.

1) Crossfire Hurricane. We all know the FISA court improperly ordered surveillance on Trump during the campaign. We know the file was fake. We know that the research was begun by Republicans and the Democrats picked up the ball and ran with it. We also know that the Inspector General found serious problems with every single one of the FISA files he reviewed.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

Over the next year he continued reviewing FISA applications and found problems with every single one.

Now. A first term city councilman in Peoria would know the system is deeply flawed and demand reform.

Trump who was there to “drain the swamp” did not. Instead he tried to continue abusing the system to his own goals.

Sessions Letter Shows DOJ Acted on Trump’s Authoritarian Demand to Investigate Clinton - American Oversight

American Oversight uncovered the signed directive from Sessions instructing a federal prosecutor to carry out Trump’s authoritarian demand to investigate Hillary Clinton.

www.americanoversight.org

It was wrong for the DOJ to lie to get authority to surveil Trump. It was just as wrong for Trump to demand similar abuses on someone else. That isn’t draining the swamp. That is taking charge of the corruption.

Shall I continue? Demanding and then ordering the removal of a full third of the troops in NATO. This was while Russian backed forces and Russian troops in civilian clothing were fighting in Ukraine. Essentially paving the road for further hostilities by Putin.

Trump’s Sudden and Dangerous Troop Withdrawal From Germany | Council on Foreign Relations

President Donald J. Trump’s order to withdraw nearly ten thousand U.S. troops from Germany betrays a close ally, undermines confidence in Washington, and makes Europe and the United States less safe.

www.cfr.org

Shall I continue? Withdrawal from NATO?

I voted for Trump in 2016. For a year or so I kept waiting for him to learn the job of President. I defended him. When it became obvious he had no intention of learning I gave up.

 

[Hollie]

Proof?
Charges running in court?
Any convictions, or liability court sentences yet?

You need to do far better then just forwarding "claims" - take an example of how these manipulated and corrupt Democrats are handling Trump. You can learn a lot from them.

As you know, the formal impeachment inquiry is only weeks old.

As to how Dems / Socialists are handling Trump, it’s certainly possible the Biden Crime Family Syndicate could spend the next decade facing indictments and court dates.

 

[Crepitus]

We win conspiracy theories for the next decade on this alone:

"You won't get Covid if you get these vaccinations"

"tell me you don't understand how vaccines work without saying you don't understand how vaccines work."

 

[Mac1958]

Conspiracy theories are all about making people who aren't smart feel that way. That is why they are so attractive to a certain segment of the population.

Yeah, which could be part of the reason this is so damn personal for them.

 

[Crepitus]

As you know, the formal impeachment inquiry is only weeks old.

Call it what it is, a fishing expedition.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

As usual, the facist Dems / Socialists attempt to defend their lies and falsehoods.

Fortunately, those who realize the truth about the Dem / Socialist totalitarian agenda are in a quickly expanding majority.

As if on cue – the reprehensible right attempts to defend the indefensible.

 

[SweetSue92]

"tell me you don't understand how vaccines work without saying you don't understand how vaccines work."

Oh. So we were NOT told by several top officials that the vaccines stopped transmission?

So what is your definition of a vaccine "working" then? It does not prevent disease or transmission of the infection stated, but DOES cause heart problems, cancer and autoimmune? Or is the "vaccine" part a boost of your smug self-satisfaction, that you can take a pic of that worthless "vaccine card" with a thumbs up and put it on social media?