A couple of right wing think tankers jump the shark.

It appears Smith felt a charge for insurrection would be dependent on a complicated legal judgement of trump's speech from the Ellipse. It threatened a protracted trial. The conspiracy charges were a more elegant way to secure a conviction for the crimes trump committed.

Does it make you feel better knowing he was charged with.........

a. A conspiracy to defraud the United States by using dishonesty, fraud, and deceit to impair, obstruct, and defeat the lawful federal government function by which the results of the presidential election are collected, counted, and certified by the federal government, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371;

b. A conspiracy to corruptly obstruct and impede the January 6 congressional proceeding at which the collected results of the presidential election are counted and certified ("the certification proceeding"), in violation of 18U.S.C. § 1512(k);and

c. A conspiracy against the right to vote and to have one's vote counted, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 241.
Oh snap!

I thought Trump was clearly orchestrating an insurrection and tried to overthrow the government. One would think a brilliant mind like Jerk Smith would be able to prove such an easy case.

Oh well...........................
 
Since Trump has been told that he cannot be prosecuted for things done in an official capacity, that pretty much wraps it all up, there's no law and order in the country when the president is not subject to the same laws as everyone else.

This is all unfolding to become a perfect storm, nothing can thwart Trump now, the man has been given what he always craved unconstrained power to do as he sees fit and use the country as a means to increase his wealth.
Da Demmies have trained you well to issue such a party-serving, blind-folded fibering accusation against a Presidential genius like Trump who knows a lemming from a beracuda. Just saying. :eusa_hand:
 
Trump is a criminal who does criminal things, and you defend him.
Lying liars have fooled you. I find that very disenheartening when a man who works for peace and plenty for a nation of three hundred millions of people gets his character assassinated by a rival who stops at nothing to bring a winner for the American people down.

Of what crime was decided by a fair court to incarcerate this "criminal" of yours, and what conviction put him in jail in what state for how many years? What date was the judgment made, and what state is furnishing the prison this convicted of the crime or crimes the courts found him guilty of who knows what, and what year is he getting out of are you pledging this proven criminal served for the conviction of these crimes you are pledging he did?

Do tell or your claims are guttersnipes.
 
If you think there's anything you could say that I can't refute think again.
Then refute what I just said then berg. The indictment is on Google. I even posted Jack Smith's 2nd indictment against Trump after the Supreme Court decision. If you're half as smart as you think you are, this should be a walk in the park. However, I think you're going to make some more snarky remarks because you can't respond with an actual answer.
 
It appears Smith felt a charge for insurrection would be dependent on a complicated legal judgement of trump's speech from the Ellipse. It threatened a protracted trial. The conspiracy charges were a more elegant way to secure a conviction for the crimes trump committed.

Does it make you feel better knowing he was charged with.........

a. A conspiracy to defraud the United States by using dishonesty, fraud, and deceit to impair, obstruct, and defeat the lawful federal government function by which the results of the presidential election are collected, counted, and certified by the federal government, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371;

b. A conspiracy to corruptly obstruct and impede the January 6 congressional proceeding at which the collected results of the presidential election are counted and certified ("the certification proceeding"), in violation of 18U.S.C. § 1512(k);and

c. A conspiracy against the right to vote and to have one's vote counted, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 241.
Okay Berg, but you and others have said for YEARS that Trump was guilty of inciting an insurrection. Nobody connected with Jan. 6th has ever been charged with insurrection by the DoJ or Jack Smith. He tried to get charges that could've past muster. However, that's now water under the bridge. However, it won't stop people like you from saying that Trump was part of an insurrection.
 
Da Demmies have trained you well to issue such a party-serving, blind-folded fibering accusation against a Presidential genius like Trump who knows a lemming from a beracuda. Just saying. :eusa_hand:
“Presidential genius..”

Wow. Just wow
 
Lying liars have fooled you. I find that very disenheartening when a man who works for peace and plenty for a nation of three hundred millions of people gets his character assassinated by a rival who stops at nothing to bring a winner for the American people down.

Of what crime was decided by a fair court to incarcerate this "criminal" of yours, and what conviction put him in jail in what state for how many years? What date was the judgment made, and what state is furnishing the prison this convicted of the crime or crimes the courts found him guilty of who knows what, and what year is he getting out of are you pledging this proven criminal served for the conviction of these crimes you are pledging he did?

Do tell or your claims are guttersnipes.
Trump does nothing of the sort.
 
Lying liars have fooled you. I find that very disenheartening when a man who works for peace and plenty for a nation of three hundred millions of people gets his character assassinated by a rival who stops at nothing to bring a winner for the American people down.

Of what crime was decided by a fair court to incarcerate this "criminal" of yours, and what conviction put him in jail in what state for how many years? What date was the judgment made, and what state is furnishing the prison this convicted of the crime or crimes the courts found him guilty of who knows what, and what year is he getting out of are you pledging this proven criminal served for the conviction of these crimes you are pledging he did?

Do tell or your claims are guttersnipes.
You are fooled. NY was a fair court. That you won't see it is your problem. SCOTUS is springing him free from federal charges.The guttersnipe claims are all yours.

On to matters now. His policies on tariffs, borders, and deportations will make prices skyrocket.

The American people will throw out the GoP in two years if that happens.
 
I've seen it all now. Unless Thiessen and Pletka are just trolling. I don't know if what they are suggesting is more absurd or more obscene. But I'm leaning towards the latter.

After the initial reaction of repulsion by POT leadership to Jan. 6 the party of trump has come a very long way. Not for the better. After years of disinformation and dissembling of the events of the day, and the plot to get there, trumples have come full circle.

Biden should pardon Trump

More than a year ago in this space, we suggested that Biden should pardon Trump before the 2024 election. The threshold for the sitting president’s administration to indict the leading candidate of the opposing party should be extraordinarily high, we argued, and polls then showed that most Americans believed the charges were politically motivated.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/11/25/biden-pardon-trump-unity/

Plainly speaking, it's a disgusting idea to pardon a man so clearly guilty of trying to subvert the Constitution to retain power. Moreover, it would make a mockery of the violent attacks Capital police officers suffered at the hands of trump's mob. Not to mention the gobsmacking shock millions of Americans experienced as they watched an assault on the republic live and on TV.

My personal opinion is the Wa Po should not have published such an insult to patriotic Americans and an affront to common decency. One wonders if they did because some members of the editorial board resigned after Bezos's decision not to endorse a presidential candidate after his paper had so frequently chronicled trump's authoritarian impulses in such granular detail. Hopefully, that was not a sign the media will be cowed under threat of retribution for speaking the truth about the trump admin.

Your last sentence is the key.
"TRUTH'....The Media no longer knows what it is.
 
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