A Church Can Have its Own Police Force, Alabama's Senate Decided!!

[Cecilie1200]

There is a difference between security guards and police.

LOL, even if they have the same duties?

They don't have the same powers. Security guards do not have government sanctioned police powers

So you upset they're thwarting your plans to rob the collection plate?

I don't get the Hysteria ..

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Religious people - except for Muslims - are second-class citizens and deviants who deserve anything that happens to them because they refuse to adhere to the beliefs and life choices the left has VERY CLEARLY told them are acceptable, you see. They therefore do not deserve any sort of protection of their safety, and should NEVER, EVER have any interaction with government beyond the government telling them to get back into their ghettoes, per the "Establishment Clause" leftists have imagined.

Hope that clears up Prog's psychosis for you.

I'll say one thing for you girls, you're really god at making up a boatload of bizarre bovine excrement at the drop of a hat.

I'll say one thing for you misogynists: you're really good at spouting a boatload of bizarre bovine excrement at the drop of a hat, and then trying to cover it up by assuming a superiority you don't have from a masculinity you don't have.

It must really chap your hide that you're more vaporish and hormonal than "we girls". Do you want to cry now, or hit us with your purse?

 

[Cecilie1200]

LOL, even if they have the same duties?

They don't have the same powers. Security guards do not have government sanctioned police powers

You're struggling here....YOU'RE the one talking about "Gov", not the Church. The Church can call it anything they want and give them any power/authority (within the boundaries) of the law they want. If you're unruly and disruptive they can (and will) put you down and detain you until the "real" police get there.

I'm struggling? Horseshit! You have no idea what you're talking about. Are you so fucking stupid that you think that a church can assume the power of government in the United States of America>

You're so fucking stupid that you think private police are "assuming the power of the government" . . . but only when there's a church and those icky Christian weirdos involved. Anyone else, and it's no big deal.

You're so fucking stupid as to think that there is such a thing as private police. All police are sanctioned by the government, even if they work for a non governmental agency or institution. Police - Wikipedia

You're so fucking stupid that you think there's no such thing as private police just because your talking points memos haven't told you to know they exist . . . oh, except for those "scary" Christians who are just dying to drag your ass into their churches at gunpoint, because OBVIOUSLY your vaporish 'tard ass is EXACTLY what everyone wants in their organizations.

Whatever excuses you're trying to make up to tell yourself that campus police are okay, but church police are "frightening and Unconstitutional" are just as nonsensical as every other damned thing you say in your failed attempts at sounding like a person. The fact remains that universities have their own police forces, just like is being proposed for primary schools in some states and now churches, and you've never said word one about "Unconstitutional" in those cases.

Face it, shitstain. All you've done is reinforce the evidence that you're a hypocritical bigot with tapioca for brains. Congratulations. And stop worrying about the Christians coming for you. They don't want you around any more than anyone else does.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I'll say one thing for you girls, you're really god at making up a boatload of bizarre bovine excrement at the drop of a hat.

This coming from the hippie who claims that a church security force is going to go around the country arresting homosexuals and searching their property.

And you're still making shit up!

 

[Uncensored2008]

Holly shit! Really? Church Police? This is frightening! Sure, the stated purpose is to fight crime on church property, there is no assurance that they wont abuse their police power. Will they be targeting minorities??? This is a racist, homophobic church. Will they be harassing people who don't come to church on a regular basis?

In any case, this is a clear violation of the constitution. The State of Alabama is about to bestow the power of the government on a religious institution!

Alabama's Senate just voted to allow a church to have its own police force

The move would be unprecedented in the United States. And, according to experts, it would also be unquestionably unconstitutional.

Violation of Church and State?
The church's original press release stated that it intended only to "mirror" a Alabama law that allows educational institutions to have its own police forces.

But vesting those state powers in the hands of a religious institution, no matter how large, would violate the Establishment Clause of the Constitution—the separation of church and state—according to the Alabama chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union.

"What the bill attempts to do is to take what is a quintessential governmental power—law enforcement—and vest that police power in the hands of a religious institution," legal director Randall Marshall told Newsweek. "That would give church officials who run a police department the decision as to what laws to enforce, who to arrest, what levels of force would be needed to effectuate such an arrest. It so intertwines the church with state powers that it truly is an establishment clause problem."

Oh my ALLAH, I remember how outraged you were that the Muslims were doing this in New York...

You stupid fuck.

 

[Uncensored2008]

There is a difference between security guards and police.

You're more likely to be stoned by the Muslim police force in New York that you staunchly defend.

 

[Polishprince]

In the Catholic Church, there was ALWAYS the Knights of Columbus, as well as the Swiss Guard, and other kinds of police outfits around. Tough fellows like albino monks with huge crosses that can be used as weapons.

Why shouldn't other religious groups have the same kind of protection?

Particularly in a Christophobic nation like America, where Christians are persecuted and fined out of existence when they stand against Gay Marriage in compliance with their faith?

 

[P@triot]

I'll say one thing for you girls, you're really god at making up a boatload of bizarre bovine excrement at the drop of a hat.

This coming from the hippie who claims that a church security force is going to go around the country arresting homosexuals and searching their property.

And you're still making shit up!

Here you are in post #1

Holly shit! Really? Church Police? This is frightening! Sure, the stated purpose is to fight crime on church property, there is no assurance that they wont abuse their police power. Will they be targeting minorities??? This is a racist, homophobic church. Will they be harassing people who don't come to church on a regular basis?

It's there for everyone to see chief.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

Holly shit! Really? Church Police? This is frightening! Sure, the stated purpose is to fight crime on church property, there is no assurance that they wont abuse their police power. Will they be targeting minorities??? This is a racist, homophobic church. Will they be harassing people who don't come to church on a regular basis?

In any case, this is a clear violation of the constitution. The State of Alabama is about to bestow the power of the government on a religious institution!

Alabama's Senate just voted to allow a church to have its own police force

The move would be unprecedented in the United States. And, according to experts, it would also be unquestionably unconstitutional.

Violation of Church and State?
The church's original press release stated that it intended only to "mirror" a Alabama law that allows educational institutions to have its own police forces.

But vesting those state powers in the hands of a religious institution, no matter how large, would violate the Establishment Clause of the Constitution—the separation of church and state—according to the Alabama chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union.

"What the bill attempts to do is to take what is a quintessential governmental power—law enforcement—and vest that police power in the hands of a religious institution," legal director Randall Marshall told Newsweek. "That would give church officials who run a police department the decision as to what laws to enforce, who to arrest, what levels of force would be needed to effectuate such an arrest. It so intertwines the church with state powers that it truly is an establishment clause problem."

As long as they pass the proper test and training they can be and in some cases they can to appointed by the Sheriff of the various countys in Alabama. and several other states in the South.

 

[badger2]

Politics of the Oath

'But I do know something about the United States Constitution. If the First Amendment's Establishment Clause means anything, it has to mean that God's will cannot be a constitutional justification for a law that erases an individual right. I'm realistic about this. I'm not expecting judges to embrace the Establishment Clause as the basis for invalidating the Alabama Human Life Protection Act, and I'm not expecting even progressive politicians to call out the religious basis for the wave of anti-abortion laws, of which Alabama's is the most extreme. But it's past time for the rest of us to step back and consider the impact of religion's current grip on public policy -- not only on the right to abortion, but on the availability of insurance coverage for contraception in employer-sponsored health plans and on the right of gay and transgender individuals to obtain medical services without encountering discrimination.'
(Linda Greenhouse, Let's Not Forget the Establishment Clause, New York Times, 23 May 2019)