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On a serious note. In my neighborhood, there's a van full of blacks that come and get let off in our neighborhood. These gents walk around like they're stalking the place, going up to doors knocking and trying to sell shit I have no idea where it's from. then, when they complete their tour, they stand at the corner for two hours waiting on the van. Don't they have cell phones to use to call and come get em? It's really suspicious to me. I never see a van full of white men, and they get out and they roam the neighborhood and go door to door. Local kids do it for school and we know them. how fking odd. Happens frequently.I saw a black man walking the other day. I called the police and they came out took him away.
I've had similar people come to my door trying to sell stuff. I have a big sign like this:On a serious note. In my neighborhood, there's a van full of blacks that come and get let off in our neighborhood. These gents walk around like they're stalking the place, going up to doors knocking and trying to sell shit I have no idea where it's from. then, when they complete their tour, they stand at the corner for two hours waiting on the van. Don't they have cell phones to use to call and come get em? It's really suspicious to me. I never see a van full of white men, and they get out and they roam the neighborhood and go door to door. Local kids do it for school and we know them. how fking odd. Happens frequently.I saw a black man walking the other day. I called the police and they came out took him away.
so do I, they still knock. amazing. they ain't too bright.I've had similar people come to my door trying to sell stuff. I have a big sign like this:On a serious note. In my neighborhood, there's a van full of blacks that come and get let off in our neighborhood. These gents walk around like they're stalking the place, going up to doors knocking and trying to sell shit I have no idea where it's from. then, when they complete their tour, they stand at the corner for two hours waiting on the van. Don't they have cell phones to use to call and come get em? It's really suspicious to me. I never see a van full of white men, and they get out and they roam the neighborhood and go door to door. Local kids do it for school and we know them. how fking odd. Happens frequently.I saw a black man walking the other day. I called the police and they came out took him away.
They just ignore it, so I just tell them to get the f- off my property and learn how to read. F-ing assholes.
They don't care. next one that knocks I'm gonna talk to them while my wife calls the police. Surprise asshole, I'm a bigger asshole.so do I, they still knock. amazing. they ain't too bright.I've had similar people come to my door trying to sell stuff. I have a big sign like this:On a serious note. In my neighborhood, there's a van full of blacks that come and get let off in our neighborhood. These gents walk around like they're stalking the place, going up to doors knocking and trying to sell shit I have no idea where it's from. then, when they complete their tour, they stand at the corner for two hours waiting on the van. Don't they have cell phones to use to call and come get em? It's really suspicious to me. I never see a van full of white men, and they get out and they roam the neighborhood and go door to door. Local kids do it for school and we know them. how fking odd. Happens frequently.I saw a black man walking the other day. I called the police and they came out took him away.
They just ignore it, so I just tell them to get the f- off my property and learn how to read. F-ing assholes.
so the thing about that is, if you talk to them, do you forfeit the posting of no soliciting? I think so. All you can do is say see the sign, then if they don't leave, call. At least then you have that as fact.They don't care. next one that knocks I'm gonna talk to them while my wife calls the police. Surprise asshole, I'm a bigger asshole.so do I, they still knock. amazing. they ain't too bright.I've had similar people come to my door trying to sell stuff. I have a big sign like this:On a serious note. In my neighborhood, there's a van full of blacks that come and get let off in our neighborhood. These gents walk around like they're stalking the place, going up to doors knocking and trying to sell shit I have no idea where it's from. then, when they complete their tour, they stand at the corner for two hours waiting on the van. Don't they have cell phones to use to call and come get em? It's really suspicious to me. I never see a van full of white men, and they get out and they roam the neighborhood and go door to door. Local kids do it for school and we know them. how fking odd. Happens frequently.I saw a black man walking the other day. I called the police and they came out took him away.
They just ignore it, so I just tell them to get the f- off my property and learn how to read. F-ing assholes.
I don't know how the law works in that regard, or any other actually, but I don't see why I would forfeit that by talking to them. Even if all I say is leave, I'm still talking to them. What I did with one asshole was he had some paper he wanted me to read and and I took it and asked him to read it to me because I didn't have my glasses. He did and then I said, so if you can read why can't you read my no trespassing sign? He just stood there and I started yelling at him the gtfo my property. Still he just stood there until I got a can of pepper spray and shook and told him if he was standing there in 10 seconds I was gonna paint him orange. He left.so the thing about that is, if you talk to them, do you forfeit the posting of no soliciting? I think so. All you can do is say see the sign, then if they don't leave, call. At least then you have that as fact.They don't care. next one that knocks I'm gonna talk to them while my wife calls the police. Surprise asshole, I'm a bigger asshole.so do I, they still knock. amazing. they ain't too bright.I've had similar people come to my door trying to sell stuff. I have a big sign like this:On a serious note. In my neighborhood, there's a van full of blacks that come and get let off in our neighborhood. These gents walk around like they're stalking the place, going up to doors knocking and trying to sell shit I have no idea where it's from. then, when they complete their tour, they stand at the corner for two hours waiting on the van. Don't they have cell phones to use to call and come get em? It's really suspicious to me. I never see a van full of white men, and they get out and they roam the neighborhood and go door to door. Local kids do it for school and we know them. how fking odd. Happens frequently.I saw a black man walking the other day. I called the police and they came out took him away.
They just ignore it, so I just tell them to get the f- off my property and learn how to read. F-ing assholes.
We dont know..is this like the Jussie Smollet crap? ..cause 99% of the time these stories are bullshit
We dont know..is this like the Jussie Smollet crap? ..cause 99% of the time these stories are bullshit
this story could be legit
but examples like smollett who falsely smeared whites call into question other complaints by black people
Doesent it in your mind?We dont know..is this like the Jussie Smollet crap? ..cause 99% of the time these stories are bullshit
this story could be legit
but examples like smollett who falsely smeared whites call into question other complaints by black people
We do know.........so I guess the actions of the police here calls into question other actions of the police.
They already did the city settled out of court and the the business lost in court. The cops surveilled him I believe and then with absolutely NO proof they had Portland PD pick him up on fake charges. The Portland PD released him after I believe 8 hours I assume they realized they were being used because he did not sue them.HHe is saying that there was no cause to put him under surveilance.He wasn't arrested because he complained about racial slurs. Workplace surveillance found that he was stealing from the company. The suit alleges that the company had no right to place surveillance cameras on their own property.
But whatever.
I am sure the courts will sort it all out.
Doesent it in your mind?We dont know..is this like the Jussie Smollet crap? ..cause 99% of the time these stories are bullshit
this story could be legit
but examples like smollett who falsely smeared whites call into question other complaints by black people
We do know.........so I guess the actions of the police here calls into question other actions of the police.
the left is always jumping to conclusions about cops
According to this topic they wereDoesent it in your mind?We dont know..is this like the Jussie Smollet crap? ..cause 99% of the time these stories are bullshit
this story could be legit
but examples like smollett who falsely smeared whites call into question other complaints by black people
We do know.........so I guess the actions of the police here calls into question other actions of the police.
the left is always jumping to conclusions about cops
Smollet is being charged with making a false report. Why shouldnt those here be held to the same standard?
Read the damn article for fook sake they FOUND no evidence he stole. NONE NADA ZIPPO. The local police waited till he went to Portland and then falsely claimed to the Portland police he was up on charges. He was arrested but Portland released him after 8 hours, I assume they figured out they were used as he did not sue them.So.... after being arrested for stealing, the guy says it was based on racial discrimination.
The evidence used to catch him (cameras) were not lawfully placed, so the man was released.
But - it was raaaaacist
Wrong he took it to his uppers in charge, read the damn article, after he lodged a complaint the owner got his buddy the POLICE Chief to investigate him on false charges of theft. As for THOSE charges the cops and the company found absolutely NO EVIDENCE he stole anything.In fact, if you are being discriminated against in this country period...why stay??Story makes no sense, not buying it. If you're being harassed at work, why the fuck would you keep working there?
You should leave.....
It's not like we got laws against discrimination or anything...
Indeed we do. But nothing in the article states he filed any complaints with the state until AFTER he was terminated. So he chose to stay at a "oh so terrible job" and be victimized, and never once brought it to the attention of an outside authority until he got shitcanned?
Bull. Shit.
According to this topic they wereDoesent it in your mind?We dont know..is this like the Jussie Smollet crap? ..cause 99% of the time these stories are bullshit
this story could be legit
but examples like smollett who falsely smeared whites call into question other complaints by black people
We do know.........so I guess the actions of the police here calls into question other actions of the police.
the left is always jumping to conclusions about cops
Smollet is being charged with making a false report. Why shouldnt those here be held to the same standard?
There was NEVER any evidence he stole ANYTHING does NO ONE read the damn article?it's all bullshit. it shouts bullshit as you read it.What occurred in this case is standard operating procedure when dealing with black people attempting to protect their workers rights, or any of their rights. I am pleased to see that the actions of the offenders in this case were so well documented
Michael Fesser said West Linn officers unlawfully surveilled him and then falsely arrested him after he complained to his boss about racial discrimination.
Feb. 11, 2020, 1:03 PM PST / Updated Feb. 12, 2020, 5:24 AM PST
By Minyvonne Burke
A black man from Oregon sued the city of West Linn alleging that police officers unlawfully surveilled him at work and then falsely arrested him in retaliation for having raised complaints with his employer about racial discrimination.
Michael Fesser of Portland claimed in the suit, an amended version of which was filed last month in U.S. District Court in Portland, that the incident left him suffering from emotional distress and resulted in economic damages. He sued the city and several members of the West Linn Police Department for false arrest, malicious prosecution, defamation and invasion of privacy.
Michael Fesser.Paul Buchanan
West Linn police began investigating Fesser in February 2017 after Fesser raised concerns to his boss, Eric Benson, owner of A&B Towing, that he was being racially discriminated against at work.
According to separate court documents, Fesser said the discrimination included coworkers' calling him racial slurs. After he raised his concerns, Benson contacted West Linn Police Chief Terry Timeus, his friend, and persuaded to look into allegations that Fesser had stolen from the company, according to the lawsuit.
The suit said the theft allegations were false and unsubstantiated.
But with the approval of West Linn police Lt. Mike Stradley, Detectives Tony Reeves and Mike Boyd used audio and video equipment to watch Fesser while he was at work, according to the suit. The surveillance was "conducted without a warrant or probable cause" and did not result in any evidence that Fesser was stealing from his employer, the lawsuit stated.
Regardless, West Linn officers, with the help of Portland police officers, arrested Fesser days later based on Reeves' and Stradley's "false representations" to Portland police that they had probable cause for an arrest.
"Sgt. Reeves and Sgt. Boyd unlawfully arrested, detained and interrogated Mr. Fesser in Portland, outside their jurisdiction, without probable cause," the suit said, adding that the two officers took Fesser's personal belongings, including papers expressing his concerns about racial discrimination at work.
Fesser spent about eight hours at the police station before he was released on his own recognizance. He was later contacted by West Linn police to come to the station to retrieve some of his belongings. While he was there, officers informed Fesser that he had been fired from his job, according to the lawsuit.
"The West Linn Defendants' surveillance, arrest, incarceration and interrogation of Mr. Fesser without a warrant or probable cause and their pursuit of baseless criminal charges against Mr. Fesser were racially motivated, retaliatory, extra-jurisdictional and an egregious abuse of the power with which the police are entrusted," the suit said.
According to the lawsuit, criminal charges in the arrest weren't filed until after Fesser sued his employer over his termination and for discrimination. The charges were later dismissed.
During the litigation in the lawsuit against his employer, Fesser learned that the West Linn police investigation into the alleged theft began as a favor to his former boss, according to the suit. Text messages revealed during the legal proceedings showed that Reeves and Benson discussed the investigation.
In one message, Reeves said Fesser should be arrested before he went further with his racial discrimination complaint against his job so it would not look like retaliation.
The City of West Linn has since settled the lawsuit and agreed to pay Fesser $600,000. The lawsuit against his employer was settled in March 2018 for $415,000.
Paul Buchanan, Fesser's attorney, said his client is pleased that both cases have been resolved.
"He is doing fine," Buchanan said. "This was not about money for him. This was about that they should not be allowed to do this."
According to Buchanan, the settlement against the police department could be the largest in the state for a wrongful arrest.
A&B Towing and the Portland Police Department did not immediately return requests for comments.
The West Linn Police Department said the settlement "is not an admission of liability."
"The City of West Linn and the West Linn Police Department do not tolerate any acts of discrimination or disparate treatment by its employees," the department said in a press release. "In 2018, when the allegations were first reported, an internal investigation was conducted and swift and appropriate disciplinary personnel action was taken."
Minyvonne Burke
Minyvonne Burke is a breaking news reporter for NBC News.
A black Oregon man told his boss about discrimination at work. Then he was arrested.
What a bunch of jerks I hope we see a 7 figure settlement!
Jo
Yep....I just got the low down..
He's a thief.
Figures
Jo
The guy walked away with a million dollarsAccording to this topic they wereDoesent it in your mind?We dont know
this story could be legit
but examples like smollett who falsely smeared whites call into question other complaints by black people
We do know.........so I guess the actions of the police here calls into question other actions of the police.
the left is always jumping to conclusions about cops
Smollet is being charged with making a false report. Why shouldnt those here be held to the same standard?
They're were not charged. At least not yet.
The guy walked away with a million dollarsAccording to this topic they wereDoesent it in your mind?We do know.........so I guess the actions of the police here calls into question other actions of the police.
the left is always jumping to conclusions about cops
Smollet is being charged with making a false report. Why shouldnt those here be held to the same standard?
They're were not charged. At least not yet.
or at least what was left after lawyers fees
thats more than chicago is likely to collect from smollett