A 63 year old movie describes us a little too well


My final one for now:

You really needed to look some Holocaust survivors and/or their relatives in the eyes when you posted this.

We all knew what you meant; the gaslighting won't work.

I sincerely hope you sit down with yourself and do some reckoning, but your brain is too far gone for that.

So instead, by way of mockery and etc, I will try to prevent your end stage TDS from infecting any more previously sane people
 
The Nazis were condemned at Nuremberg for promoting abortion in the occupied territories.

Hitler, like many dictators, also wanted the government to have a monopoly on guns.
 

Not one of you seems to be in the slightest interested that the Nuremberg Trials were 100% Fake .
The thread subject matter effectively .

I gave you a link to a learned paper of Facts and not opinions .
A scholarly exposition about remarkable material .

But Hey Ho .
I expect Milton was a natural event and someone did fire at Trump but narrowly misssed.
It makes life simple and saves the brain cells from getting tired .
 
Not one of you seems to be in the slightest interested that the Nuremberg Trials were 100% Fake .
The thread subject matter effectively .


I gave you a link to a learned paper of Facts and not opinions .
A scholarly exposition about remarkable material .


But Hey Ho .
I expect Milton was a natural event and someone did fire at Trump but narrowly misssed.

It makes life simple and saves the brain cells from getting tired .
The thread is about a quote in a movie from 63 years ago that (a) seems a little too familiar to today, and (b) does accurately reflect the sociological conditions at the time.

Your personal opinion of the validity of the trial is irrelevant here.
 
The thread is about a quote in a movie from 63 years ago that (a) seems a little too familiar to today, and (b) does accurately reflect the sociological conditions at the time.

Your personal opinion of the validity of the trial is irrelevant here.

You miss points totally:-
You reference the Nuremberg Trial as the subject you base the thread on .
You do . With a link to the 1961 film .
Not me .

I offer no personal opinion other than act as messenger for someone who has written an astonishing paper of the highest calibre telling us that the Nuremberg trial was a complete fiction.

What you do with this op
portunity to expand your knowledge base is your choice .

But get your base line assertions right .
 
You miss points totally:-
You reference the Nuremberg Trial as the subject you base the thread on .
You do . With a link to the 1961 film .

Not me .

I offer no personal opinion other than act as messenger for someone who has written an astonishing paper of the highest calibre telling us that the Nuremberg trial was a complete fiction.

What you do with this op
portunity to expand your knowledge base is your choice .

But get your base line assertions right .
I explained what my thread is about. The trial is not the subject, as much as you want it to be. The trial is only the setting in which the quote is made. The character could have been saying those very same words in a pub or a zoo or his back yard. Same point.

You want to change the point. You're free to try, but you're wrong.
 
All here must know our corrupt government controlled by wealthy elites has systematically dismantled the American middle class, while destroying our culture. The middle class is under attack and searching for a politician who will help them.

Trump is hardly the answer, but this explains his popularity with voters. If the government were actually working for the 90%, Trump wouldn’t be considered.

I suspect Harris has a much greater chance of imposing tyranny than Trump, since Don is opposed by the establishment. So anything he does will be opposed.
 
Like, it's not pretty. I'm not happy about it.

Being a full-grown man, watching a movie about HITLER and thinking, yeah, this is just like Trump.....

I would ask how you got here but it makes me squeamish to think about it. Like peeling back a bandage over festering gangrene. I don't really want to know.

Breathe some air.

Touch some grass.

Listen to some good music.

Have a glass of wine.

something, dude
Watch Trump turn the immigrants into the Juden.
 
Like, it's not pretty. I'm not happy about it.

Being a full-grown man, watching a movie about HITLER and thinking, yeah, this is just like Trump.....

I would ask how you got here but it makes me squeamish to think about it. Like peeling back a bandage over festering gangrene. I don't really want to know.

Breathe some air.

Touch some grass.

Listen to some good music.

Have a glass of wine.

something, dude

Again, we got here because awful white people like you hate people who are different.

That's how we got here.

Trump isn't the disease, he's just the rash it's broken out into.
 
All here must know our corrupt government controlled by wealthy elites has systematically dismantled the American middle class, while destroying our culture. The middle class is under attack and searching for a politician who will help them.
venn.webp
 
I'm posting this in the Politics section because it so eerily describes our current political climate. I was watching a 1961 movie last night, and a moment in the movie absolutely blew my mind.

At a key moment in the movie (at 2:18:00), a judge (played by Burt Lancaster) who is on trial describes a dark time in the country's history:

There was a fever over the land. A fever of disgrace, of indignity, of hunger. We had a democracy, yes. But it was torn by elements within. Above all, there was fear. Fear of today, fear of tomorrow. Fear of our neighbors, and fear of ourselves. Only when you understand that, can you understand what (he) meant to us. Because he said to us, "lift your heads, be proud to be (who you are). There are devils among us -- communists, liberals, jews, gypsies. Once these devils will be destroyed, your misery will be destroyed". It was the old, old story of the sacrificial lamb.

What about those of us who knew better? We who knew the words were lies, and worse than lies? Why did we sit silent? Why did we take part? Because we loved our country. What difference does it make if a few political extremists lose their rights? What difference does it make if a few racial minorities lose their rights? It is only a passing phase! It is only a stage we're going through! It will be discarded sooner or later! The leader himself will be discarded sooner or later!

The country is in danger. We will march out of the shadows. We will go forward! And history tells us how well we succeeded, your honor.





Pretty amazing. The scene is from Judgment at Nuremberg, 1961.
True, and much like the national socialist were put on trial, the demafacist will be here as well
 
Burt also nailed it in Executive Action, which is not overplayed here. It was in Europe. Executive Action | Rotten Tomatoes
Yeah, that movie sucked. Lancaster was pretty good in it though.

A funny story involving me and this “film”. At the end of the movie is a rather gripping pre-credit epilogue: It has 18 picutures arrayed in what I can only call “yearbook style”--rows and columns. But instead of smiling kids, they show a bunch of alleged witnesses to the assassination: A somber voice comes on (I think it’s the guy from Forensic Files). The epilogue starts with the camera showing like one picture then pans back to show the 18 folks or whatever and the voice comes on....""In the three years after the murders of President Kennedy and Lee Harvey Oswald, eighteen material witnesses died... six by gunfire, three in motor accidents, two by suicide, one from a cut throat, one from a karate chop to the neck, three from heart attacks and two from natural causes. An actuary, engaged by the Sunday London Times concluded that on November 22, 1963, the odds against these witnesses being dead by February, 1967 were one hundred thousand trillion to one."

Of course what the guy doesn’t tell you is that if you were to take 18 people out of Yankee Stadium who watched the Yanks advance yesterday,and they were in the 60’s and 70’s and track them for 3 years, you’d likely find 18 folks who died and the odds of them dying would be about the same.

Anyway, here’s the story. In a pre-internet and almost pre Blockbuster era, I was penning a masterpiece for my social studies class about JFK being assassinated and I remembered seeing this gripping “bombshell” at the end of the movie. I knew that Channel 13 in Houston was going to re-air this movie so I needed to record the stat at the end. This would be my show-stopper!!!! So I needed a video tape. I didn’t have one. But my brother was being conned by these real estate guys at the same time--Tom Vu (google this dude)--and he had bought a bunch of video tapes. I take one, record that 45 second blurb at the start of one of the tapes, transcribe the recording to paper, remove the tape I put over his tape to be able to record, then put the video tape back in it’s case and put it back in his closet. The crime of the century (my recording--not LHO killing Kennedy) was complete and I turn in my masterpiece.

Well (adopting my own Forensic Files voice), in the 3 years after CandyCorn making a pirated video recording of a shitty film, the brother of Candy R. Corn became a conspiracy kook of his own buying into every crazy JFK conspiracy. One day while going back over the Tom Vu seminars, he watched video tape #1 and saw this “bombshell” on the video, sending him off into a tizzy. He came into my room and asked me to come into his to show me this. I cracked up. I had to tell him what I had done. But the look on his face...like he couldn’t believe that this lighning bolt of information would come out of nowhere to tell only him this evidence. He was unaware of the movie and had to find it. I think he actually bought a copy for like $60 which was big money for us back in the day. Another funny little story was that we were at the Movie Corner (an independent video rental place) in Sheldon, TX and saw the movie there on a wall with essentially all of Burt Landcaster’s movies--they were featuring him for some reason. Next to it was Twilights Last Gleaming. It quickly became my brother’s favorite movie based only on Lancasters’ intensity.

The movie itself billed itself as being one that would "clear the air" about the JFK assassination. Leonard Maltin opined that it was better at "clearing theaters" and it was a terrible flop. The only bit of truth in the entire movie was when an Oswald double (yup--the movie actually had a fake Oswald) told someone that if he was going to give the world an enema, he'd stick the nozzle in Dallas. I pretty much think anywhere in Texas would suffice but Dallas was a nice choice.
 
I'm posting this in the Politics section because it so eerily describes our current political climate. I was watching a 1961 movie last night, and a moment in the movie absolutely blew my mind.

At a key moment in the movie (at 2:18:00), a judge (played by Burt Lancaster) who is on trial describes a dark time in the country's history:

There was a fever over the land. A fever of disgrace, of indignity, of hunger. We had a democracy, yes. But it was torn by elements within. Above all, there was fear. Fear of today, fear of tomorrow. Fear of our neighbors, and fear of ourselves. Only when you understand that, can you understand what (he) meant to us. Because he said to us, "lift your heads, be proud to be (who you are). There are devils among us -- communists, liberals, jews, gypsies. Once these devils will be destroyed, your misery will be destroyed". It was the old, old story of the sacrificial lamb.

What about those of us who knew better? We who knew the words were lies, and worse than lies? Why did we sit silent? Why did we take part? Because we loved our country. What difference does it make if a few political extremists lose their rights? What difference does it make if a few racial minorities lose their rights? It is only a passing phase! It is only a stage we're going through! It will be discarded sooner or later! The leader himself will be discarded sooner or later!

The country is in danger. We will march out of the shadows. We will go forward! And history tells us how well we succeeded, your honor.





Pretty amazing. The scene is from Judgment at Nuremberg, 1961.
They don't get it. They never will.
 
Damn dude, you triggered Sue like I have never seen before.

You have totally broken her.
Yeah, holy crap, that meltdown was epic.

That quote was verbatim. I didn't create it. If it hits that close to home for them, perhaps they should think about it for a moment.

Not expecting that, of course. They're too emotionally invested now.
 
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I explained what my thread is about. The trial is not the subject, as much as you want it to be. The trial is only the setting in which the quote is made. The character could have been saying those very same words in a pub or a zoo or his back yard. Same point.

You want to change the point. You're free to try, but you're wrong.
They know exactly what the point is. They'll do or say anything to avoid dealing with it.
 
I'm posting this in the Politics section because it so eerily describes our current political climate. I was watching a 1961 movie last night, and a moment in the movie absolutely blew my mind.

At a key moment in the movie (at 2:18:00), a judge (played by Burt Lancaster) who is on trial describes a dark time in the country's history:

There was a fever over the land. A fever of disgrace, of indignity, of hunger. We had a democracy, yes. But it was torn by elements within. Above all, there was fear. Fear of today, fear of tomorrow. Fear of our neighbors, and fear of ourselves. Only when you understand that, can you understand what (he) meant to us. Because he said to us, "lift your heads, be proud to be (who you are). There are devils among us -- communists, liberals, jews, gypsies. Once these devils will be destroyed, your misery will be destroyed". It was the old, old story of the sacrificial lamb.

What about those of us who knew better? We who knew the words were lies, and worse than lies? Why did we sit silent? Why did we take part? Because we loved our country. What difference does it make if a few political extremists lose their rights? What difference does it make if a few racial minorities lose their rights? It is only a passing phase! It is only a stage we're going through! It will be discarded sooner or later! The leader himself will be discarded sooner or later!

The country is in danger. We will march out of the shadows. We will go forward! And history tells us how well we succeeded, your honor.





Pretty amazing. The scene is from Judgment at Nuremberg, 1961.
I watch the same movie and see you and your beloved democrats
 
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