TheGreatGatsby
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In the event of being audited, they don't want their money to be tied to that p.o.s.
96 Percent of Hillary's "Charitable" Donations To Herself
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In the event of being audited, they don't want their money to be tied to that p.o.s.
they draw no money from any charity, whether it is their own charity or someone else's....but it is not a real advantage to donate, over keeping the money....
keep the million as income, and they have to pay 39% income taxes on it and they get to keep 61% for themselves, never to be taxed again so they pay the $390,000 in taxes on the $1 million and get to keep $610,000 for themselves...
donating it to a charity, even the Clinton foundation, gives them ZERO money for themselves, to do as they wish..., and 1 million that is the charity's program money....to use, only for charity program purposes....
if they just wanted to become richer somehow, then they would have just kept the million and paid the taxes on it....
ABikerSailor
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That somehow makes them less greedy.
What makes them less greedy is the fact that they actually donated money to a charity. Even though it's one of their own, they STILL donated their own money to it. Trump hasn't donated to his own charity since it was founded in 2008.
Oh yeah..............the other thing that makes them less greedy? The Clinton's have yet to be caught dipping into their charity for their own purposes. Trump has already been caught using his charity's money to buy a portrait of himself for 20,000, has used it to pay over 250,000 in personal legal fees, as well as has used another 25,000 to FL DA Pam Bondi's campaign so that she would drop charges against Trump U.
Only the candidate Donald J Trump, is the candidate that has used his charity as a slush fund for himself, illegally.... but trump loves shouting things about the opposition that is actually things that he does....
Hide and Watch....It's crooked donald that will end up being locked up for his own REAL, not imagined, crimes....
Hide and Watch....It's crooked donald that will end up being locked up for his own REAL, not imagined, crimes....
ChrisL
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Financial analyst alleges major holes in Clinton Foundation records
Hal Moroz, a private attorney and former Georgia judge, said he referred some of Ortel's findings on the violations of the foundation to the state attorney general's office.
"This is a matter of great public interest because we have a major party presidential candidate who has been greatly enriched by the questionable activities of a foundation that was meant to serve charitable public interests," Moroz said.
"The records of charities are open to public review and scrutiny, and this is so because there are certain tax advantages to registering under state and federal law as a charity and the citizens of the United States foot the bill for these tax advantages," he added.
Bill Clinton serves as honorary chair of the American India Foundation, a title he's held since founding the organization in 2001.
The former president created the foundation alongside Rajat Gupta, who was then managing director at McKinsey & Co.
McKinsey & Co., a major consulting firm, has donated up to $1 million to the Clinton Foundation and has employed Chelsea Clinton.
Gupta became engulfed in controversy in 2011 when he was hit withaccusations of insider trading from the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Ortel said he believes Bill Clinton seldom mentions his ties to the American India Foundation due to its messy finances and affiliation with individuals like Gupta.
A spokesman for the foundation said the lapse in registration in Massachusetts was due to documents the state said it never received and that the registration lapse in Illinois was due to a misunderstanding involving the deadline to file paperwork. The spokesman also said the foundation registered to solicit donations in the state of Georgia in March of this year.
The little-known charity is just one example of the way the Clintons' philanthropic network skirts federal and state regulations to continue operations despite massive financial discrepancies, Ortel said.
In other cases, the lines between foundation entities like the Clinton Health Access Initiative, the Clinton HIV/Aids Initiative, and the Clinton Climate Initiative were blurred enough to conceal specific transactions, he explained.
Hal Moroz, a private attorney and former Georgia judge, said he referred some of Ortel's findings on the violations of the foundation to the state attorney general's office.
"This is a matter of great public interest because we have a major party presidential candidate who has been greatly enriched by the questionable activities of a foundation that was meant to serve charitable public interests," Moroz said.
"The records of charities are open to public review and scrutiny, and this is so because there are certain tax advantages to registering under state and federal law as a charity and the citizens of the United States foot the bill for these tax advantages," he added.
Bill Clinton serves as honorary chair of the American India Foundation, a title he's held since founding the organization in 2001.
The former president created the foundation alongside Rajat Gupta, who was then managing director at McKinsey & Co.
McKinsey & Co., a major consulting firm, has donated up to $1 million to the Clinton Foundation and has employed Chelsea Clinton.
Gupta became engulfed in controversy in 2011 when he was hit withaccusations of insider trading from the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Ortel said he believes Bill Clinton seldom mentions his ties to the American India Foundation due to its messy finances and affiliation with individuals like Gupta.
A spokesman for the foundation said the lapse in registration in Massachusetts was due to documents the state said it never received and that the registration lapse in Illinois was due to a misunderstanding involving the deadline to file paperwork. The spokesman also said the foundation registered to solicit donations in the state of Georgia in March of this year.
The little-known charity is just one example of the way the Clintons' philanthropic network skirts federal and state regulations to continue operations despite massive financial discrepancies, Ortel said.
In other cases, the lines between foundation entities like the Clinton Health Access Initiative, the Clinton HIV/Aids Initiative, and the Clinton Climate Initiative were blurred enough to conceal specific transactions, he explained.
TheGreatGatsby
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What makes them less greedy is the fact that they actually donated money to a charity. Even though it's one of their own, they STILL donated their own money to it. Trump hasn't donated to his own charity since it was founded in 2008.
Oh yeah..............the other thing that makes them less greedy? The Clinton's have yet to be caught dipping into their charity for their own purposes. Trump has already been caught using his charity's money to buy a portrait of himself for 20,000, has used it to pay over 250,000 in personal legal fees, as well as has used another 25,000 to FL DA Pam Bondi's campaign so that she would drop charges against Trump U.
They have become billionairres from govt. service. The reek of greed.
oreo
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You do know that the New York State Attorney Generals office has opened up an investigation in to the Trump foundation. They actually have two cancelled checks totaling $258,000 in (charitable donations) that Trump used to settle non related legal claims.
'I've never encountered anything so brazen': Report details shocking new revelations about Trump Foundation
And then those 3500 civil cases that Trump is involved with, many having to do with Trump not paying small business contractors for work completed.
USA TODAY exclusive: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills
And Trump University is scheduled on the court docket and I imagine this woman will be the first witness for the plaintiff.
So the rational conclusion comes down to this:
ChrisL
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You do know that the New York State Attorney Generals office has opened up an investigation in to the Trump foundation. They actually have two cancelled checks totaling $258,000 in (charitable donations) that Trump used to settle non related legal claims.
'I've never encountered anything so brazen': Report details shocking new revelations about Trump Foundation
And then those 3500 civil cases that Trump is involved with, many having to do with Trump not paying small business contractors for work completed.
USA TODAY exclusive: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills
And Trump University is scheduled on the court docket and I imagine this woman will be the first witness for the plaintiff.
So the rational conclusion comes down to this:
Helps to have friends in high places, but you keep believing in your "honest politician."
It's amusing at least.
jknowgood
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You have to realize he is a liberal. He can't help but lie.
TheGreatGatsby
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Helps to have friends in high places, but you keep believing in your "honest politician."
Oh, so that's what she means on "when they go low, I go high."
oreo
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You do know that the New York State Attorney Generals office has opened up an investigation in to the Trump foundation. They actually have two cancelled checks totaling $258,000 in (charitable donations) that Trump used to settle non related legal claims.
'I've never encountered anything so brazen': Report details shocking new revelations about Trump Foundation
And then those 3500 civil cases that Trump is involved with, many having to do with Trump not paying small business contractors for work completed.
USA TODAY exclusive: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills
And Trump University is scheduled on the court docket and I imagine this woman will be the first witness for the plaintiff.
So the rational conclusion comes down to this:
Helps to have friends in high places, but you keep believing in your "honest politician."
Well you better dam well hope that Democrats don't take over the house or you'll be up to your email eyeballs in scandals and investigations into Colin Powell's emails when he was Secretary of State.
"The bottom line: Democrats may try to turn the revelations about the email accounts used by Powell and Rice’s staff into a scandal. They may release press statements condemning the former secretaries of state; they may call for scores of unnecessary congressional hearings; they may go to the press and confidently proclaim that crimes were committed by these honorable Republicans. But it would all be lies. Powell and Rice did nothing wrong. This could be considered a scandal only by ignorant or lying partisans.
So there is no Powell or Rice email scandal. And no doubt, that will infuriate the Republicans who are trying so hard to trick people into believing Clinton committed a crime by doing the exact same thing as her predecessors."
The shocking truth: Colin Powell’s emails don’t matter
And YES, Colin Powell also received classified documents on his personal AOL email account.
Rice Aides, Powell Also Got Classified Info on Personal Email Accounts
And of course--G.W. Bush also had his own problems with Embassy & Consulate attacks.
It really couldn't be better stated than this:
"Herein lies a lesson for Republicans who are perpetually trying to appease the far right: It’s a fool’s errand. They went to the tea party – and now they’re taking Donald Trump to the prom. Likewise, then-House Speaker John Boehner named the Benghazi committee because activists were dissatisfied that seven previous congressional investigations had failed to uncover major scandal material. Now an eighth has produced more of the same – and the agitators are as agitated as ever.
There’s a certain twisted logic to this. The unhinged right starts with the ideologically satisfying answer – President Obama and Hillary Clinton are guilty of horrible Benghazi-related wrongdoing – and then works backwards, looking for “proof” that matches the conclusion. When their ostensible allies fail to tell these activists what they want to hear, they could reevaluate their bogus assumptions, but it’s vastly easier to believe Republicans have let them down."
With Clinton exonerated, conspiracy theorists turn on Trey Gowdy
So after all these Reich wing political dog and pony shows House Republicans have put on, at enormous tax payer expense, that have all fallen flatter than a pancake, you actually believe you can cry wolf one more time and someone is going to believe it?---LOL
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Spare_change
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Your ignorance is only exceeded by your insistence on an input whether you know anything about the subject or not.
Perhaps you can tell us just how much Clinton Foundation money was paid to Bill or Hillary Clinton.
oreo
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The Clinton Foundation is continually audited and has an A+ rating. Trump can't even find his paperwork on his foundation, but the New York Attorney General's office has opened up an investigation into his foundation, because they actually have two cancelled checks totaling $258,000 in charitable contributions that he used to settle his legal claims that had nothing to do with the foundation. The State Attorney Generals office issued Trump a cease and desist order on the Trump Foundation just two weeks ago.
Charity Navigator - Rating for The Clinton Foundation
Trump Foundation Reportedly Doesn't Have Proper Paperwork To Solicit Money
'I've never encountered anything so brazen': Report details shocking new revelations about Trump Foundation
So go fish!
TheGreatGatsby
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I don't think you even believe your own bull sh**, tbh.
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Laughing demonstrates your ignorance. Its best not to pretend you know something that you don't
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Hate the message attack the messenger...childish...you ain't ready for a big league board like USMB.
Spare_change
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The Clinton Foundation is continually audited and has an A+ rating. Trump can't even find his paperwork on his foundation, but the New York Attorney General's office has opened up an investigation into his foundation, because they actually have two cancelled checks totaling $258,000 in charitable contributions that he used to settle his legal claims that had nothing to do with the foundation. The State Attorney Generals office issued Trump a cease and desist order on the Trump Foundation just two weeks ago.
Charity Navigator - Rating for The Clinton Foundation
Trump Foundation Reportedly Doesn't Have Proper Paperwork To Solicit Money
'I've never encountered anything so brazen': Report details shocking new revelations about Trump Foundation
So go fish!
I guess we can assume you're not the least bit familiar with charities, and how they work. Your own reference data says that 87% of all donations collected go to the operation of the Foundation - that would be salaries. In fact, if you look closer, you will see that $221 million is spent on "expenses and administration" (this is how Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea, among others, get paid for their "charitable work"), and only $7 million is spent on fundraising. Frankly, those figures are unfathomable in the charity business.
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