95,000 non-citizens are registered to vote in Texas, state officials discover

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Once again, proof of massive voter fraud. We all know the Dims will continue to maintain that voter fraud doesn't happen:

95,000 non-citizens are registered to vote in Texas, state officials discover

About 95,000 non-citizens are registered to vote in Texas, and more than half of those have cast ballots in at least one election, Texas Secretary of State David Whitley announced on Friday. Whitley's office, along with the Texas Department of Public Safety, had been investigating possible voter fraud for the last year, according to a news release. Of the 95,000 non-citizens registered, 58,000 have voted in one or more elections since 1996.​

Every state has the same problem it seems like anymore

Nah, but that's what it is supposed to seem like so we can roll back voting rights.

What voter's rights? You don't have a right to vote if you are an illegal or legal resident.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Sam Taylor, a spokesman for the secretary of state, said the announcement on Friday did not mean that the authorities had discovered 95,000 registered voters who it knew for a fact were noncitizens.

Instead, the office was advising local officials to ask these voters via mail to provide proof of their citizenship.

To vote in Texas, you must be registered by the state

what they will find out is state employees making mistakes

Texas hasn't had a democrat governor since 1995

Clinton was the last president that won the state

still they have not found voter fraud they are just looking for voter fraud

still that number that they are investigating is .070 percent of total voters in Texas

Who knows maybe they will have better luck than Trump

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This notice came out from the state on Jan. 25. If they can find the individuals, I imagine they will be having a lot charged with voter fraud.
Through this evaluation, the Texas Secretary of State's office discovered that a total of approximately 95,000 individuals identified by DPS as non-U.S. citizens have a matching voter registration record in Texas, approximately 58,000 of whom have voted in one or more Texas elections. Voting in an election in which the person knows he or she is not eligible to vote is a second-degree felony in the State of Texas. Upon receipt of this information, the Texas Secretary of State's office immediately provided the data in its possession to the Texas Attorney General's office, as the Secretary of State has no statutory enforcement authority to investigate or prosecute alleged illegal activity in connection with an election.

I not saying that it doesn't happen by both republicans and democrats. I am just saying that the examples you may find will not matter statistically or really change outcomes of votes on a national and state level.

This is a problem at the local level when the number of voters is low but once you are talking about a million voter then you will need more that a couple of examples of prosecution for it to matter

If the state finds people, it will be both demos and repubs doing it

Right now the story of 95,000 is just a false positive

like in most test such as pregnancy

Thats why they are sending out notices to verify if they are citizens because they do not know if the results are accurate

At this point it just suspicion

It is even unknown and in fact voting illegal is still only half of 1 percent. There are 15.8 registered voters in Texas

Still this has no effect on national elections and has very little effect on State wide elections

The last democratic governor was Ann Richards in the mid 90's and Clinton was the last president that received more votes in Texas.

this is more a problem for local election at the lowest level

and it may annoy repubs who need things to rile up their base

You can put police on any freeway and they will hand out a few tickets

It still will not stop people from speeding

If Russians interfere with national elections and a repub wins then all of the sudden its fake news

Yet Trump meets with Putin a second time and Putin before the cameras said
"I wanted Trump to win"

where is the outrage

Is Russian interference more of a problem that illegal voting

if Clinton had won because of the Russians then repubs would have impeached her in the 1st year when they controlled the congress

I'd really like to see that .8 of the 15.8 voters in Texas. Were they hurt in an industrial accident so they are only .8 voter? Dumbass!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Well, except for the fact that it takes about 7 years from the time you get your green card until you are eligible for citizenship.

Well, first of all, the study goes back 20 years. Second, they can have a green card for one day and become a citizen by marrying a citizen. Third, you can be formally adopted by a US Citizen, or simply have a US Citizen recognized as your legal parent. There are a lot of moving parts, here. Not to mention duplicate names, clerical errors, etc

 

[Rustic]

Once again, proof of massive voter fraud. We all know the Dims will continue to maintain that voter fraud doesn't happen:

95,000 non-citizens are registered to vote in Texas, state officials discover

About 95,000 non-citizens are registered to vote in Texas, and more than half of those have cast ballots in at least one election, Texas Secretary of State David Whitley announced on Friday. Whitley's office, along with the Texas Department of Public Safety, had been investigating possible voter fraud for the last year, according to a news release. Of the 95,000 non-citizens registered, 58,000 have voted in one or more elections since 1996.​

Every state has the same problem it seems like anymore

Nah, but that's what it is supposed to seem like so we can roll back voting rights.

No one knows what’s truly going on, because it’s a ******* clown show.
Because we have no border security

 

[rightwinger]

What kind of proof are you looking for?

Probably the same evidence the Secretary of State of Texas's office is looking for, when they say they don't know for a fact that these 95,000 people are undocumented immigrants.

I suspect the overwhelming majority are not illegal

However, if it is true, it shows that the duplicate voting that would be prevented by voter ID Is not the problem.......voter registration is

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Is there ANY aspect of America that actually meets your satisfaction?

Is there any aspect of american society that has ever lived up to america's own lofty rhetoric? I can't pretend to believe in untruths for the comfort of others.

Rationalization / cop out. Expected of you. How could your own beliefs POSSIBLY bring any comfort to any other? That is the height of hubris. Name me ANY country that has ever lived up to its own lofty rhetoric? NONE I can think of unless their ideals are pretty low. But I prefer a country which sets it goals higher than it can reach, so long as it is always reaching, and the American people are, that is, the ones that actually contribute and seek self-actualization rather than just sit around mewling like a baby blaming the world for their own inadequacies.

America runs on rationalization, always has. No other way to achieve that "exceptionalist" mindset. Then the argument always wilts into, "well yeah but everyone else was doing it too". Fair enough. America is just another nation state on the planet currently. It too shall pass.

You are welcome to take the nearest exit at your earliest opportunity. I'll bet Venezuela could you use you socialist talents!

See? Even you cannot defend it. "But look at Venezuela"!

Well, we, the US, are down there destabilizing Venezuela and trying to topple their govt for tossing out US energy corporations.

What US energy corporations? Talking out of your ass again as per usual?

 

[H B Lowrie]

Is there any aspect of american society that has ever lived up to america's own lofty rhetoric? I can't pretend to believe in untruths for the comfort of others.

Rationalization / cop out. Expected of you. How could your own beliefs POSSIBLY bring any comfort to any other? That is the height of hubris. Name me ANY country that has ever lived up to its own lofty rhetoric? NONE I can think of unless their ideals are pretty low. But I prefer a country which sets it goals higher than it can reach, so long as it is always reaching, and the American people are, that is, the ones that actually contribute and seek self-actualization rather than just sit around mewling like a baby blaming the world for their own inadequacies.

America runs on rationalization, always has. No other way to achieve that "exceptionalist" mindset. Then the argument always wilts into, "well yeah but everyone else was doing it too". Fair enough. America is just another nation state on the planet currently. It too shall pass.

You are welcome to take the nearest exit at your earliest opportunity. I'll bet Venezuela could you use you socialist talents!

See? Even you cannot defend it. "But look at Venezuela"!

Well, we, the US, are down there destabilizing Venezuela and trying to topple their govt for tossing out US energy corporations.

What US energy corporations? Talking out of your ass again as per usual?

Oh my, yup, you're right. We're all jacked because energy corporations were tossed out of Venezuela, that's why we're attempting to topple Venezuela. Same shit, different nation/US industry. US sugar industry in Cuba, right? Thanks for catching that! You're correct, I was thinking of another nation we've done this to.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Rationalization / cop out. Expected of you. How could your own beliefs POSSIBLY bring any comfort to any other? That is the height of hubris. Name me ANY country that has ever lived up to its own lofty rhetoric? NONE I can think of unless their ideals are pretty low. But I prefer a country which sets it goals higher than it can reach, so long as it is always reaching, and the American people are, that is, the ones that actually contribute and seek self-actualization rather than just sit around mewling like a baby blaming the world for their own inadequacies.

America runs on rationalization, always has. No other way to achieve that "exceptionalist" mindset. Then the argument always wilts into, "well yeah but everyone else was doing it too". Fair enough. America is just another nation state on the planet currently. It too shall pass.

You are welcome to take the nearest exit at your earliest opportunity. I'll bet Venezuela could you use you socialist talents!

See? Even you cannot defend it. "But look at Venezuela"!

Well, we, the US, are down there destabilizing Venezuela and trying to topple their govt for tossing out US energy corporations.

What US energy corporations? Talking out of your ass again as per usual?

Oh my, yup, you're right. We're all jacked because energy corporations were tossed out of Venezuela, that's why we're attempting to topple Venezuela. Same shit, different nation/US industry. US sugar industry in Cuba, right? Thanks for catching that! You're correct, I was thinking of another nation we've done this to.

US energy corporations? You still did not name which corporations, considering energy corporations are now almost entirely global instead of tied to a country.

 

[bripat9643]

Is there ANY aspect of America that actually meets your satisfaction?

Is there any aspect of american society that has ever lived up to america's own lofty rhetoric? I can't pretend to believe in untruths for the comfort of others.

Rationalization / cop out. Expected of you. How could your own beliefs POSSIBLY bring any comfort to any other? That is the height of hubris. Name me ANY country that has ever lived up to its own lofty rhetoric? NONE I can think of unless their ideals are pretty low. But I prefer a country which sets it goals higher than it can reach, so long as it is always reaching, and the American people are, that is, the ones that actually contribute and seek self-actualization rather than just sit around mewling like a baby blaming the world for their own inadequacies.

America runs on rationalization, always has. No other way to achieve that "exceptionalist" mindset. Then the argument always wilts into, "well yeah but everyone else was doing it too". Fair enough. America is just another nation state on the planet currently. It too shall pass.

You are welcome to take the nearest exit at your earliest opportunity. I'll bet Venezuela could you use you socialist talents!

See? Even you cannot defend it. "But look at Venezuela"!

Well, we, the US, are down there destabilizing Venezuela and trying to topple their govt for tossing out US energy corporations.

Oh, right, so you think the people of Venezuela enjoy starving.

 

[bripat9643]

Rationalization / cop out. Expected of you. How could your own beliefs POSSIBLY bring any comfort to any other? That is the height of hubris. Name me ANY country that has ever lived up to its own lofty rhetoric? NONE I can think of unless their ideals are pretty low. But I prefer a country which sets it goals higher than it can reach, so long as it is always reaching, and the American people are, that is, the ones that actually contribute and seek self-actualization rather than just sit around mewling like a baby blaming the world for their own inadequacies.

America runs on rationalization, always has. No other way to achieve that "exceptionalist" mindset. Then the argument always wilts into, "well yeah but everyone else was doing it too". Fair enough. America is just another nation state on the planet currently. It too shall pass.

You are welcome to take the nearest exit at your earliest opportunity. I'll bet Venezuela could you use you socialist talents!

See? Even you cannot defend it. "But look at Venezuela"!

Well, we, the US, are down there destabilizing Venezuela and trying to topple their govt for tossing out US energy corporations.

What US energy corporations? Talking out of your ass again as per usual?

Oh my, yup, you're right. We're all jacked because energy corporations were tossed out of Venezuela, that's why we're attempting to topple Venezuela. Same shit, different nation/US industry. US sugar industry in Cuba, right? Thanks for catching that! You're correct, I was thinking of another nation we've done this to.

Do you actually believe the people of Venezuela support Maduro and his thugs?

 

[H B Lowrie]

America runs on rationalization, always has. No other way to achieve that "exceptionalist" mindset. Then the argument always wilts into, "well yeah but everyone else was doing it too". Fair enough. America is just another nation state on the planet currently. It too shall pass.

You are welcome to take the nearest exit at your earliest opportunity. I'll bet Venezuela could you use you socialist talents!

See? Even you cannot defend it. "But look at Venezuela"!

Well, we, the US, are down there destabilizing Venezuela and trying to topple their govt for tossing out US energy corporations.

What US energy corporations? Talking out of your ass again as per usual?

Oh my, yup, you're right. We're all jacked because energy corporations were tossed out of Venezuela, that's why we're attempting to topple Venezuela. Same shit, different nation/US industry. US sugar industry in Cuba, right? Thanks for catching that! You're correct, I was thinking of another nation we've done this to.

Do you actually believe the people of Venezuela support Maduro and his thugs?

If we believe in democracy we would stay out of it and let the people of Venezuela decide their own governance.

 

[H B Lowrie]

Is there any aspect of american society that has ever lived up to america's own lofty rhetoric? I can't pretend to believe in untruths for the comfort of others.

Rationalization / cop out. Expected of you. How could your own beliefs POSSIBLY bring any comfort to any other? That is the height of hubris. Name me ANY country that has ever lived up to its own lofty rhetoric? NONE I can think of unless their ideals are pretty low. But I prefer a country which sets it goals higher than it can reach, so long as it is always reaching, and the American people are, that is, the ones that actually contribute and seek self-actualization rather than just sit around mewling like a baby blaming the world for their own inadequacies.

America runs on rationalization, always has. No other way to achieve that "exceptionalist" mindset. Then the argument always wilts into, "well yeah but everyone else was doing it too". Fair enough. America is just another nation state on the planet currently. It too shall pass.

You are welcome to take the nearest exit at your earliest opportunity. I'll bet Venezuela could you use you socialist talents!

See? Even you cannot defend it. "But look at Venezuela"!

Well, we, the US, are down there destabilizing Venezuela and trying to topple their govt for tossing out US energy corporations.

Oh, right, so you think the people of Venezuela enjoy starving.

I see that america does not believe in freedom and democracy at all. I see that america needs to control other nations and societies.

 

[BS Filter]

 

[bripat9643]

You are welcome to take the nearest exit at your earliest opportunity. I'll bet Venezuela could you use you socialist talents!

See? Even you cannot defend it. "But look at Venezuela"!

Well, we, the US, are down there destabilizing Venezuela and trying to topple their govt for tossing out US energy corporations.

What US energy corporations? Talking out of your ass again as per usual?

Oh my, yup, you're right. We're all jacked because energy corporations were tossed out of Venezuela, that's why we're attempting to topple Venezuela. Same shit, different nation/US industry. US sugar industry in Cuba, right? Thanks for catching that! You're correct, I was thinking of another nation we've done this to.

Do you actually believe the people of Venezuela support Maduro and his thugs?

If we believe in democracy we would stay out of it and let the people of Venezuela decide their own governance.

You believe democracy is what they have in operation?

 

[H B Lowrie]

See? Even you cannot defend it. "But look at Venezuela"!

Well, we, the US, are down there destabilizing Venezuela and trying to topple their govt for tossing out US energy corporations.

What US energy corporations? Talking out of your ass again as per usual?

Oh my, yup, you're right. We're all jacked because energy corporations were tossed out of Venezuela, that's why we're attempting to topple Venezuela. Same shit, different nation/US industry. US sugar industry in Cuba, right? Thanks for catching that! You're correct, I was thinking of another nation we've done this to.

Do you actually believe the people of Venezuela support Maduro and his thugs?

If we believe in democracy we would stay out of it and let the people of Venezuela decide their own governance.

You believe democracy is what they have in operation?

I do not think it is up to america or americans. I think maybe we need someone to militarily intervene in our society, perhaps you might "get" it then.

 

[H B Lowrie]

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 201711:10 AM ET
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

 

[Dragonlady]

It's very hard for me to believe that any illegal, let alone 95K of them, would be stupid enough to walk into a voting precinct and risk immediate deportation just so they could cast a single vote.

Have you not heard of the Motor Voter Law?

The methodology of the "study" is highly suspect.

1. The looked at applications for driver's licenses which used green cards or visas as ID.

2. Then they looked at voter registration rolls in subsequent years to see if these peoples' names appeared on the voter rolls.

3. And they also looked to see if these people had voted when listed on the rolls.

What they didn't do was to check to see if these people had received citizenship after they got their drivers' licenses and before they voted. The merely assumed that they had not.

DUH that's why they are investigating.

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That's not what the OP is saying, nor is it what the TV station website says. It says that 95,000 noon-citizens are registered to vote in Texas, but they haven't checked to see whether they are citizens or not. Many of then could have obtained a driver's license when they moved to Texas but before they became citizens, and then registered to vote when they received citizenship.

All this study confirms is that these people got their drivers licenses using visas or green cards for ID and were subsequently registered to vote. The study went back to 1996 to look for these voter registrations so its very likely in 20 years some of these people who had green cards and visas became citizens and were entitled to vote.

 

[Moonglow]

95,000? Holy Shit!

That's a lot of Pope poop....

They never mentioned what type of election they voted in.

Does it matter, dumbass?

Sure for statistics..

 

[Moonglow]

Once again, proof of massive voter fraud. We all know the Dims will continue to maintain that voter fraud doesn't happen:

95,000 non-citizens are registered to vote in Texas, state officials discover

About 95,000 non-citizens are registered to vote in Texas, and more than half of those have cast ballots in at least one election, Texas Secretary of State David Whitley announced on Friday. Whitley's office, along with the Texas Department of Public Safety, had been investigating possible voter fraud for the last year, according to a news release. Of the 95,000 non-citizens registered, 58,000 have voted in one or more elections since 1996.​

The methodology of this study is deeply flawed. The study compiled the names and addresses of people who applied for driver's licenses using a green card or visa for ID. It then checked voter rolls to see if any of these people subsequently appeared on voter rolls or voted. What they didn't do was to enquire as to whether any of these people subequently applied for and received their citizenship prior to registering or voting.

This whole study was designed to give a "false positive" to gin up the base.

Well, except for the fact that it takes about 7 years from the time you get your green card until you are eligible for citizenship.

The story said it was from 1996-dumbass...(oh sorry that's your prerogative...Buttmunch is mine for you), ok Buttmunch...Aye-aye old tar..

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

95,000? Holy Shit!

That's a lot of Pope poop....

They never mentioned what type of election they voted in.

Does it matter, dumbass?

Sure for statistics..

Adding 1 plus 1 is your idea of statistics. It is all you can handle!