92 Year Old Palestinian Woman: Palestinians Should Massacre Jews Like Hebron in 1929!

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Gained in translation

Why the Middle East Media Research Institute is a source of English versions of Arabic texts that are designed to mislead and disinform.by Mohammed El-OifiTHE Washington-based Middle East Media Research Institute (Memri) was founded in 1998 by a former Israeli military intelligence officer, Colonel Yigal Carmon. It translates Arab and Iranian media into European languages, and according to its website “explores the Middle East through the region’s*(...) http://mondediplo.com/2005/10/15propaganda

 

[irosie91]

Oh gee---it has resorted to quoting finklestein whose own mother---
the holocaust survivor-----said "my son is insane"

bitter losers ---unemployed wannabees-----uri avneri, gideon levy,
finklestein------what would the isa-respecters
do without the GONE POSTAL rejects???

well ----even rejects have to eat----Carter found his niche too--
his entire family is living off a "NON-PROFIT "charitable"
organization funded by saudi arabia ---even the reject
alcoholic brother

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Arabic under fire

A child on Hamas TV talked of annihilating the Jews ... or did she?Brian WhitakerMemri, the "research institute" which specialises in translating portions of the Arabic media into English, has issued avideo clip*from a children's programme on Hamas TV in which it claims that a Palestinian girl talked of becoming a suicide bomber and annihilating the Jews.Memri - described by New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman as "invaluable" -*supplies translations*free of charge to journalists, politicians and others, particularly in the US.Though Memri claims to be "independent" and maintains that it does not "advocate causes or take sides", it is run by Yigal Carmon, a former colonel in Israeli military intelligence. Carmon's partner in setting up Memri was Meyrav Wurmser who in 1996 was*one of the authors*of the now-infamous "Clean Break" document which proposed reshaping Israel's "strategic environment" in the Middle East, starting with the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.In the Hamas video clip issued by Memri, a Mickey Mouse lookalike asks a young girl what she will do "for the sake of al-Aqsa". Apparently trying to prompt an answer, the mouse makes a rifle-firing gesture and says "I'll shoot".The child says: "I'm going to draw a picture."Memri's translation ignores this remark and instead quotes the child (wrongly) as saying: "I'll shoot."Pressed further by the mouse - "What are we going to do?" - the girl replies in Arabic: "Bidna nqawim." The normal translation of this would be "We're going to [or want to] resist" but Memri's translation puts a more aggressive spin on it: "We want to fight."The mouse continues: "What then?"According to Memri, the child replies: "We will annihilate the Jews."The sound quality on the clip is not very good, but I have listened to it several times (as have a number of native Arabic speakers) and we can hear no word that might correspond to "annihilate".What the girl seems to say is: "Bitokhoona al-yahood" - "The Jews will shoot us" or "The Jews are shooting us." http://m.guardiannews.com/commentisfree/2007/may/15/arabicunderfire

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

That last article clearly illustrates why these memri videos have no credibility, that one video was filled with false translations of words.

 

[irosie91]

I wonder how long it took for them to find that questionable,
probably not ----but possible error in translation.
I have lots of relatives BORN in islamic lands and fluent
in arabic ----\
the "isa' respecters lisp out DEATH TO THE JEWS
by age two---my hubby--when meeting his own countrymen---
-ie people born in the same country in which
he was born---DENIES knowing a word of arabic---
so he can be entertained by the filth they spew --
-assuming he does not understand ------he has a minor
business relationship with a local arab
storeowner-----goes ----while I wait in the
car and comes out to LAUGH sheeesh
sherri-----even I know vulgarities in arabic simply
by being around arabic speaking muslims ----and
what they say-----I know a few words in urdu too---
used for similar reasons------you are a gross
liar. Now tell us again that your fellow
isa-respecter Achmadinejad has nothing
against Israel----my Iranian sister-in-law needs
a laugh

 

[Roudy]

Grab your umbrellas here goes Sherri spamming the thread again! Allah Akbar!

 

[Roudy]

That last article clearly illustrates why these memri videos have no credibility, that one video was filled with false translations of words.

Nope it wasn't. I know that as a fact. That video is 100% correct.

 

[toastman]

That last article clearly illustrates why these memri videos have no credibility, that one video was filled with false translations of words.

Nope it wasn't. I know that as a fact. That video is 100% correct.

The problem with that Roudy is that Sherri and facts don't go well together

 

[Roudy]

That last article clearly illustrates why these memri videos have no credibility, that one video was filled with false translations of words.

Nope it wasn't. I know that as a fact. That video is 100% correct.

The problem with that Roudy is that Sherri and facts don't go well together

Like oil and water. She's claiming the translation is incorrect and she has absolutely no proof.

 

[irosie91]

Has she claimed that the 1929 Hebron massacre
never took place yet? let's wait and see

 

[toastman]

Has she claimed that the 1929 Hebron massacre
never took place yet? let's wait and see

Lets also wait and see when she says the Arabs were resisting while killing the Jews in Hebron

 

[Roudy]

Has she claimed that the 1929 Hebron massacre
never took place yet? let's wait and see

Problem is, I SPEAK ARABIC, and that's what the old lady is saying exactly. "Massacre the Jews, like we did in Hebron, I was there and my father joined in the massacre and when he came back he gave us all the gifts he had taken from the Jews". ""Inshallah we massacre them again, just like 1929...". Sick.

This is who they are and the face they keep trying to hide from the world.

 

[irosie91]

Has she claimed that the 1929 Hebron massacre
never took place yet? let's wait and see

Problem is, I SPEAK ARABIC, and that's what the old lady is saying exactly. "Massacre the Jews, like we did in Hebron, I was there and my father joined in the massacre and when he came back he gave us all the gifts he had taken from the Jews". ""Inshallah we massacre them again, just like 1929...". Sick.

This is who they are and the face they keep trying to hide from the world.

give her a chance----she will claim that the woman is a jewish actress---
she used that one in the past. No claim is too absurd for our isa-respecter.

 

[Saigon]

This is who they are and the face they keep trying to hide from the world.

If she is trying to hide from the world, why is she speaking on video?

Groups like Hamas and Hezbollah are not ashamed of their beliefs - they are proud of them. They want the publicity.

This woman does not speak for all Arabs any more than you speak for all Jews. She is a fanatic and an extremist, just as you are. It's quite funny to think that somewhere in the Arab world, someone might be taking your comments and posting them on web forums and saying "This is who the Jews are. This is the face they are trying to hide from the world."

It amazes me that you can not see how much you have in common.

 

[toastman]

This is who they are and the face they keep trying to hide from the world.

If she is trying to hide from the world, why is she speaking on video?

Groups like Hamas and Hezbollah are not ashamed of their beliefs - they are proud of them. They want the publicity.

This woman does not speak for all Arabs any more than you speak for all Jews. She is a fanatic and an extremist, just as you are. It's quite funny to think that somewhere in the Arab world, someone might be taking your comments and posting them on web forums and saying "This is who the Jews are. This is the face they are trying to hide from the world."

It amazes me that you can not see how much you have in common.

What amazes me is how much you misunderstood the comment you quoted !

 

[irosie91]

This is who they are and the face they keep trying to hide from the world.

If she is trying to hide from the world, why is she speaking on video?

Groups like Hamas and Hezbollah are not ashamed of their beliefs - they are proud of them. They want the publicity.

This woman does not speak for all Arabs any more than you speak for all Jews. She is a fanatic and an extremist, just as you are. It's quite funny to think that somewhere in the Arab world, someone might be taking your comments and posting them on web forums and saying "This is who the Jews are. This is the face they are trying to hide from the world."

It amazes me that you can not see how much you have in common.

wrong again Saigon----the attempt to hide----was demonstrated
by sherri who insists that the only people who understand arabic
are arabs and jews always MISTRANSLATE--in fact everyone does


The "mistranslation" claim is nothing new-----I am old enough to
remember that it was used in JUNE 1967 ---to explain away the overt
threats and ASSERTIONS regarding the impending destruction of Israel
voiced by Nasser et al After that I heard it over and over again
just in casual conversation about anything islamic with muslims ---it
was even used on the bible----which is a MISTRANSLATION
10,000 times over -------the other claim is FORGERY----even the
dead sea scrolls are a FORGERY


lots of the memri material is picked up from WITHIN----it is not publicized
WIDELY---it is used for "domestic" consumption. LONG LONG
ago-----I attended a mosque on a GOOD FRIDAY----I heard a sermon
delivered by the VISITING GENIUS IMAM---from al azhar-----I remember
it well-----it was all about GOOD FRIDAY and the perverse liars which
are christians ----who incessantly attempt to DESTROY ISLAAAAM

The venue was Manhattan NY --I was shocked to hear such a vituperative
attack on christians from some jerk visiting from egypt---in new york city---
it was LONG AGO---no action between the USA and any muslim country
going on-----circa 1970-----whenever I present what I heard
that day ----the response I get ---in fact I even got it from sherri ---
is "LIAR!!!" The sermon was clearly not designed for
NON MUSLIM EARS You expect a 90 year old woman to worry that
some non muslim might hear what she said? she might not have even known
that she was being taped-----the tape was probably for the edification
of school children---- if a genius IMAM from egypt does not worry that what
HE SAID in mid manhattan might be heard by the "wrong ears"? Well--
no one thought of tapings back then-----maybe he figured he could always
DENY IT or he was talking only to the IN-GROUP

 

[Saigon]

iRosie -

I can understand moderates wanting to deny or distort what the extremists are saying. It infuriates me to hear people like Nasrallah speaking, and I'm neither Muslim nor Lebanese!

I am sure there is also quite a lot of truth in Sherri's claims about mistranslation. Not in every case, maybe not in this case, but in many, many cases.

But as I said, groups like Hamas and Hezbollah are not working undercover. They operate openly and with cosiderable pride. In Southern Lebanon there are Hezbollah gift shops, info centres and museums that anyone can visit. They are absolutely amazing places. And of course they enjoy considerable local support.

The mistake is pretending that such extremists are the majority, when research shows exactly the opposite. I started a thread a couple of weeks ago showing that in some Islamic countries, something around 2% of people support terror.

 

[irosie91]

iRosie -

I can understand moderates wanting to deny or distort what the extremists are saying. It infuriates me to hear people like Nasrallah speaking, and I'm neither Muslim nor Lebanese!

I am sure there is also quite a lot of truth in Sherri's claims about mistranslation. Not in every case, maybe not in this case, but in many, many cases.

But as I said, groups like Hamas and Hezbollah are not working undercover. They operate openly and with cosiderable pride. In Southern Lebanon there are Hezbollah gift shops, info centres and museums that anyone can visit. They are absolutely amazing places. And of course they enjoy considerable local support.

The mistake is pretending that such extremists are the majority, when research shows exactly the opposite. I started a thread a couple of weeks ago showing that in some Islamic countries, something around 2% of people support terror.

The MISTAKE is in believing that the average "tends his own garden" person
is running the world ------Nasrallah is one of the MOVERS AND SHAKERS ----the
average "wouldn't hurt a fly" person is----actually not ENERGIZING
movements Your comment is about as useful as saying "most germans
would be horrified by the sight of the goings on in Auschwitz"-----I know that---
political movements are not CREATED by the majority----neither are
ideologies------just ENOUGH people get swept up in them-----the rest
can be passive ------and the thing GOES AHEAD.

most muslims did not create islamicism------the NASKHARAHALLAHS and
the AYATOILETS create it ----most are passive---more or less---
and remarkably ----compliant

 

[Saigon]

iRosie -

Your comment is about as useful as saying "most germans
would be horrified by the sight of the goings on in Auschwitz"

You might be surprised that I agree with you!!

I do think there are parallels between Germans under Hitler and people who endured the rule of Qaddaffi, Mubarak, Assad et al. Of course there should have been more protests and uprisings, but I also understand why people don't stand up and risk imprisonment, death or torture. I'd love to see more Palestinians protest against terror, against Hamas etc, but at the moment Israel serves as a more conveniant enemy.

Which is one reason why Israel should seek to appeal to and work with moderates, of course.

 

[irosie91]

iRosie -

Your comment is about as useful as saying "most germans
would be horrified by the sight of the goings on in Auschwitz"

You might be surprised that I agree with you!!

I do think there are parallels between Germans under Hitler and people who endured the rule of Qaddaffi, Mubarak, Assad et al. Of course there should have been more protests and uprisings, but I also understand why people don't stand up and risk imprisonment, death or torture. I'd love to see more Palestinians protest against terror, against Hamas etc, but at the moment Israel serves as a more conveniant enemy.

Which is one reason why Israel should seek to appeal to and work with moderates, of course.

Almost Saigon----but not quite. I mentioned the goings on
in AUSCHWITZ ----because you mentioned ACTUAL TERRORIST
ATROCITIES as not being something in which MOST
PEOPLE WOULD PARTICIPATE----an idea with which I
completely agree.------HOWEVER---the sad fact is that ideo-
logically the concept of THE GLORY OF IMPOSING
SHARIA upon the world ----is popular (as I ascertain
from discussions with scores of muslims over scores of
years) thruout the "ummah"-------bottom line----
they actually believe that crap is good and refuse to
recognize that it is gross oppression of non muslims---
and leads to genocides

-----today----my "learned" impression is that put to vote---
some 90% of muslims would vote for "IMPOSE SHARIAH"
CREATE THE IDEAL WORLD CALIPHATE

"deal with moderates" is not an answer----get rid of the
CALIPHATE fantasy is the answer