2aguy
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Yeah...gun control doesn't work in Europe, and as islam takes over, they will find out why the U.S. has the 2nd Amendment...
9 dead in mass shooting in Austria.....but......gun control?
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Zebra
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now 10 dead and many injured
It the frequency. Europe has gun attacks but they are far more rare...
More Guns, More Gun Deaths, More Mass Shootings...
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I checked for another thread and didn't find one....if so, get the mods to merge.
At least 10 people were killed in a shooting at a high school in Austria’s second-largest city, Graz, on Tuesday, police said, and several were seriously injured. Gun violence is rare in Austria, and residents and politicians expressed shock over the attack.
The shooter also killed himself, said Gerald Ortner, director of police for the state of Styria, of which Graz is the capital. The shooter, a 21-year-old local man, was previously unknown to the authorities, Ortner said.
I have to wonder if all the publicizing we do about this stuff does not put thoughts in people's minds.
Before Tuesday’s attack, Austria had two public mass shootings since 2000, compared with 119 in the same period in the United States, according to Jason R. Silva, a member of the Regional Gun Violence Research Consortium at the Rockefeller Institute of Government. Neither of those two shootings in Austria occurred at a school.
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I read of that today but since it was overseas and didn't look like a snackbar attack I moved on.
This school massacre ...and all school massacres...could've/could be prevented by absolute security.
Absolute security protects absolutely.
No need for Second Amendment.
zaangalewa
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Weapon control is not functioning at all in the USA - or how else do you explain that your superstupid president Donald Trump needs thousands of weapons including soldiers on "reason" to rule the USA?
The NRA is by the way a criminal terror organisation. Since decades the NRA eliminates every young politicians who likes to establish better weapon laws in the USA.
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And now some facts in this case: In Austria exist lots of weapons. This is the first school massacre in Austria as far as I know. And you should know that school massacres are an US-American "invention" which swapped from your country to Europe. One more reason to let flow your tears - what you will not do because of your own sick education.
In this case it had happened the first time that someone with a so called "drivers license for guns" (he had two licensed weapons) did do such a massacre including suicide.
Currently are 11 people dead - including the 21 year old assassin (=in German "Meuchelmörder"). Some are heavy wounded and no one knows currently the correct number of all wounded persons. In case of school massacres everyone has to be very careful with information on reason not to wake wordwide anyone who is in a similar situation and to bring this person to the idea to do the same. (Nachahmungstäter, copycat offenders)
So let us concentrate on the victims, their relatives and friends. If possible pray for them - or ask Mother Mary or any other Saint from whatever religion for help if you don't know what to pray or how to pray.
God’s angels never yield,
they are with me eternally.
When I sleep, they watch,
when I go forth,
when I stay,
they carry me in their hands.
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zaangalewa
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Nothing is perfect. Absolute security not exists. Austria is one of the 10 most secure countries in the world. The deeper is now the shock in Austria. God be with Graz and whole Austria.
zaangalewa
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In 2008 in Austria 8 people had been murdered with guns. In 2016 17 people had been murdered with guns.
In the USA died in 2014 12,400 people because of gun shots and in 2021 it had been about 21,000.
In Missisippi died in 2020 more than 28 people per 100,000 people because of guns - in Massachusetts it only had been 3.7 people per 100,000 inhabitants in the same year.
It's not so easy to compare such numbers.
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But I heard an old man who lost a long time ago his child and who said: "It is wrong. Time not heals such wounds."
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That's becoming less the case.
And I'm pretty sure Sweden now holds the record for domestic bombings in the western world.
Moonglow
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Murder laws do not stop murders. Shall we get rid of those laws?
Tommy Tainant
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Its easy to get a gun in Austria. Just like the US. This might change after this incident. Europeans react to tragedy unlike stupid americans.
2aguy
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Nope......in 249 years of gun murder in the United States, we don't come anywhere close to the murder of 15-20 million Europeans in just 6 years at the hands of their governments....our 2nd Amendment prevents that kind of slaughter.
2aguy
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249 years of gun murder in the U.S........around 2,490,000 million gun murders.....
Europe, between 1939-1945 between 15-20 million innocent men, women and children murdered by their governments...not casualties of war......they were rounded up, marched into forests and camps and murdered....
So the ability to own and carry guns has kept the U.S. from experiencing that level of slaughter over here.....
You have nothing to be proud about.
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