9/11 Pentagon Aircraft Hijack Impossible

[Toro]

you would also think that the Pentagon has it's security taps so that when an event takes place that event can be investigated and then the facts of that case aftyer a certain amount of time can be released to the public. Also all footage from outside sources that took place in the flight path have been confiscated. Wouldn't it just be easier to prove it was a plane just by showing the footage to the public and clearing up their story....otherwise i guess there must be something to hide?

The Pentagon has lots to hide.

But why do think that what they are trying to hide is a missile?

The Pentagon is a national security building. Do you think the only thing the military would try to hide is whether or not a missile hit the Pentagon?

If they believed that national security would be compromised by showing what was inside the Pentagon, as no doubt is the case, releasing tapes to satisfy what they would consider to be a bunch of nutter truthers who would NEVER believe them anyways is pretty low on their list of priorities.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Absolutely amazing, now Eots has another empty accusation without any links to the actual proof. NTSB said what? Where is this posted by the NTSB? In other words...Produce the NTSB report or we know that once again.......YOU LIE!!!!!!

take a look at the core members of this group..they don't make up lies for fun..they don't give up their careers to tell lies,,,you are a fool..what is it jealousy of there rank and achievements next to yours ?? why do you have such disrespect for these fine gentlemen ???

core group @ pilotsfor911truth.org

disinfo agent ollie exposes himself having no interest in the truth as always.

Where is the NTSB report? Show me the truth idiot. I want you to show me and you cannot do so. Once again empty accusations.

 

[eots]

you would also think that the Pentagon has it's security taps so that when an event takes place that event can be investigated and then the facts of that case aftyer a certain amount of time can be released to the public. Also all footage from outside sources that took place in the flight path have been confiscated. Wouldn't it just be easier to prove it was a plane just by showing the footage to the public and clearing up their story....otherwise i guess there must be something to hide?

The Pentagon has lots to hide.

But why do think that what they are trying to hide is a missile?

The Pentagon is a national security building. Do you think the only thing the military would try to hide is whether or not a missile hit the Pentagon?

If they believed that national security would be compromised by showing what was inside the Pentagon, as no doubt is the case, releasing tapes to satisfy what they would consider to be a bunch of nutter truthers who would NEVER believe them anyways is pretty low on their list of priorities.

bullshit..anyone could drive by and photgraph the pentagon and the nutter truthers you speak of are men like this lets not forget

Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech). Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. 22-year Air Force career. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.
Member: Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth Association Statement:

"Scholars and professionals with various kinds of expertise---including architects, engineers, firefighters, intelligence officers, lawyers, medical professionals, military officers, philosophers, religious leaders, physical scientists, and pilots---have spoken out about radical discrepancies between the official account of the 9/11 attacks and what they, as independent researchers, have learned.

They have established beyond any reasonable doubt that the official account of 9/11 is false and that, therefore, the official “investigations” have really been cover-up operations.

Thus far, however, there has been no response from political leaders in Washington or, for that matter, in other capitals around the world. Our organization, Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth, has been formed to help bring about such a response.

We believe that the truth about 9/11 needs to be exposed now---not in 50 years as a footnote in the history books---so the policies that have been based on the Bush-Cheney administration’s interpretation of the 9/11 attacks can be changed.

We are, therefore, calling for a new, independent investigation of 9/11 that takes account of evidence that has been documented by independent researchers but thus far ignored by governments and the mainstream media."


Video 9/11/04: "A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible. … There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up. … Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s responsible.…

Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.

I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people will say that’s much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder." http://video.go


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11:
"We want truthful answers to question. … As Americans of conscience, we ask for four things:
An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry." http://www.911truth.org/article



Member: Pilots for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Pilots for 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September 2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful day since the United States Government doesn't seem to be very forthcoming with answers."


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[Tom Clancy]

You keep posting the same thing, This person wants to know this, this person wants to know that, Call for an investigation.

But yet again.. No facts proving there were bombs in WTC 1-2 and WTC 7.

 

[SFC Ollie]

you would also think that the Pentagon has it's security taps so that when an event takes place that event can be investigated and then the facts of that case aftyer a certain amount of time can be released to the public. Also all footage from outside sources that took place in the flight path have been confiscated. Wouldn't it just be easier to prove it was a plane just by showing the footage to the public and clearing up their story....otherwise i guess there must be something to hide?

The Pentagon has lots to hide.

But why do think that what they are trying to hide is a missile?

The Pentagon is a national security building. Do you think the only thing the military would try to hide is whether or not a missile hit the Pentagon?

If they believed that national security would be compromised by showing what was inside the Pentagon, as no doubt is the case, releasing tapes to satisfy what they would consider to be a bunch of nutter truthers who would NEVER believe them anyways is pretty low on their list of priorities.

I'm quite certain that G2 (security) at the pentagon had many people going around that morning doing nothing except securing every piece of loose paper they could find. God knows how much classified material was floating around out there.

 

[rightwinger]

Pray tell eots..

How do you explain the bodies of Flight 77 passengers recovered from the Pentagon?

Are you claiming that the loved ones of those passengers buried and mourned the wrong bodies?

Are you calling them suckers?

 

[Trojan]

So the current theory is that the ninja turtles faked had this enormous elaborate and diobolic sceme and the forgot to correct the FDR data?

I thought you guys claimed the FDR data was fake? Now you accept it?

 

[eots]

pray tell eots..

How do you explain the bodies of flight 77 passengers recovered from the pentagon?

Are you claiming that the loved ones of those passengers buried and mourned the wrong bodies?

Are you calling them suckers?

the bodies recovered were pentagon employees the rest were apparently identified through DNA evidence...which could easily be manipulated ..but the fact is that has nothing to do with the evidence in the flight data recorder..it is what it is..have an independent investigation of 9/11 and release all evidence and lets find the answers

 

[Toro]

You keep posting the same thing, This person wants to know this, this person wants to know that, Call for an investigation.

But yet again.. No facts proving there were bombs in WTC 1-2 and WTC 7.

Yes, that is exactly right. eots is a C&P master!

Notice that his post above didn't have anything to do with the Pentagon. Its guys saying there should be another investigation. That's his rebuttal.

 

[eots]

Notice how you attempt to distract from the evidence in the flight data

 

[Tom Clancy]

Notice how you attempt to distract from the evidence in the flight data

What evidence?

You don't post Facts, you post what this person wants to know and to call for an Investigation.

I feel like i'm repeating myself over and over..

You keep posting the same thing, This person wants to know this, this person wants to know that, Call for an investigation.

But yet again.. No facts proving there were bombs in WTC 1-2 and WTC 7.

Yes, that is exactly right. eots is a C&P master!

Notice that his post above didn't have anything to do with the Pentagon. Its guys saying there should be another investigation. That's his rebuttal.

Exactly.

 

[SFC Ollie]

pray tell eots..

How do you explain the bodies of flight 77 passengers recovered from the pentagon?

Are you claiming that the loved ones of those passengers buried and mourned the wrong bodies?

Are you calling them suckers?

the bodies recovered were pentagon employees the rest were apparently identified through DNA evidence...which could easily be manipulated ..but the fact is that has nothing to do with the evidence in the flight data recorder..it is what it is..have an independent investigation of 9/11 and release all evidence and lets find the answers

I thought you had claimed that you had a study of the recorders and that they proved the plane did not hit the Pentagon? Now you know you cannot have it both ways either you have this proof or you don't. Now once again go tell those families that their loved ones did not die at the pentagon.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

great comeback!.....but what about trying to answer the question really?

they question is.....is the analysis true the door was never opened.....or is the analysis faked to support the conspiracy theory....

the 911 truthers have just as much to gain from faking data as they claim the us government had from faking an attack....

so who performed the analysis test with the finding above?

Where is the plane , the crew and the passengers? If the plane was never hijacked and never crashed into the Pentagon why did it descend on radar and disappear? Where did the black box come from? Where did the DNA evidence come from? How did a plane that size fly below radar tracking through a city without being seen and reported? Where did it eventually land? Who actually made the phone call to the Cabinet member claiming to be his wife? Who killed the passengers and secretly seeded their DNA in the Pentagon? Who flew the plane to this secret undisclosed location below radar tracking so that everyone could be escorted off and murdered?

If the door was never opened then in order to get the black box means the original pilots flew the aircraft below radar detection to some secret location to be processed for DNA to be planted at the Pentagon. They were either murdered there after WILLINGLY doing as told or they are secretly still alive hiding some where. Further since the black box data is not claimed to show no crash then in reality THEY must have crashed the plane somewhere so the black boxes could be recovered and secretly transported to the pentagon site.

Getting the idea yet?

 

[eots]

they question is.....is the analysis true the door was never opened.....or is the analysis faked to support the conspiracy theory....

the 911 truthers have just as much to gain from faking data as they claim the us government had from faking an attack....

so who performed the analysis test with the finding above?

Where is the plane , the crew and the passengers? If the plane was never hijacked and never crashed into the Pentagon why did it descend on radar and disappear? Where did the black box come from? Where did the DNA evidence come from? How did a plane that size fly below radar tracking through a city without being seen and reported? Where did it eventually land? Who actually made the phone call to the Cabinet member claiming to be his wife? Who killed the passengers and secretly seeded their DNA in the Pentagon? Who flew the plane to this secret undisclosed location below radar tracking so that everyone could be escorted off and murdered?

If the door was never opened then in order to get the black box means the original pilots flew the aircraft below radar detection to some secret location to be processed for DNA to be planted at the Pentagon. They were either murdered there after WILLINGLY doing as told or they are secretly still alive hiding some where. Further since the black box data is not claimed to show no crash then in reality THEY must have crashed the plane somewhere so the black boxes could be recovered and secretly transported to the pentagon site.

Getting the idea yet?

getting the Idea yet ? RGS has no clue..the flight data does not say there was no hijacking it says the flight door was never opened... why cant we see the videos of the pentagon on 9/11 ? why is there so much conflicting eyewitness testimony..why was it not taken under oath and cross examined ? what about the credable reports of two other planes.. why are here pentagon employees that day they saw the plane fly over 100 ft up after the impact.?.why are there several military eyewitness that dispute the official story ? why has there been no real investigation..why did the FAA destroy evidence ? why was no one charged..what of the testimony of a stand down order..why did the plane unessesarly circle a hit the recently reinforced section of the pentagon ?...where the hell is bin laden ????why does no one even care ? why was the 9/11 commision a cover-up ? why did the lead investigator from nist say his investigation was blocked and fact finding deterred ?

 

[eots]

pray tell eots..

How do you explain the bodies of flight 77 passengers recovered from the pentagon?

Are you claiming that the loved ones of those passengers buried and mourned the wrong bodies?

Are you calling them suckers?

the bodies recovered were pentagon employees the rest were apparently identified through DNA evidence...which could easily be manipulated ..but the fact is that has nothing to do with the evidence in the flight data recorder..it is what it is..have an independent investigation of 9/11 and release all evidence and lets find the answers

I thought you had claimed that you had a study of the recorders and that they proved the plane did not hit the Pentagon? Now you know you cannot have it both ways either you have this proof or you don't. Now once again go tell those families that their loved ones did not die at the pentagon.

why do you fuck off with you disingenuous bullshit instead..the families were the driving force behind the 9/11 investigation and are the driving force behind demanding a re-investigation..why don't you tell them they are toofer morons you asshole...you and glen beck

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[Fizz]

9/11 Pentagon Aircraft Hijack Impossible

PilotsFor911Truth
November 29, 2009

Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence that the reported hijacking aboard American Airlines Flight 77 was impossible to have existed. A data parameter labeled “FLT DECK DOOR”, cross checks with previously decoded data obtained by Pilots For 9/11 Truth from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) through the Freedom Of Information Act.

the flight data recorder was manufactured in 1997. it had no port for the door sensor and therefore ALWAYS gave a closed signal. what the "independent researcher" fails to say is that not only did the sensor not detect an open door (since there was no sensor connected) during the entire flight of flight 77 but it also didnt detect an open door in the entire 42 hours prior to the flight.

 

[eots]

And where is this source from ?

 

[Fizz]

And where is this source from ?

from my memory. i remember reading it. feel free to look it up if you like.

it sure does help when people look for logical solutions to what may be strange information before jumping to wild conspiracy conclusions.

 

[Fizz]

it would be simple enough to see if the door sensor worked by checking if the door was ever actually opened.

 

[eots]

you remember it... fuck off..you want to post this statement prove it