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in that situation, you left out a lot in your comment, I will fix itYou don’t have to give anyone what they demand in that situation. However you do not have to steal their phone nor hold them at gunpoint. There be the rub.
Nobody has said you must be a victim. But your responses to crime must be legal. His were not. Another in a long line of entitled White guys who think they can do whatever and just scream I was defending myself.
That is a great point. I think another thing we can ask is the history of the 81-year-old man. Why would he just shoot someone out of nowhere. The guy lived 80 years as a good citizen in this country.The story says, everyone says, pick up the package that was to contain ransom money.
Why would anyone not cooperate when told that they were participating in a crime?
Sadly, we most likely will never know. Sadly, we dont have video of the entire incident.
I did not know it was a school zone and there were no children present when I got a ticket for doing 30mph in a 20mph school zone.The driver did not know it was a package of money, thus she did not ask for money.
Uber drivers don’t pick up a package. They pick up passengers or they go to a restaurant and pick up food and deliver the food. I know this because I worked for Uber previously.The Uber driver was simply trying to pick up a package that Uber was contracted to deliver. She did nothing illegal at all.
in that situation, you left out a lot in your comment, I will fix it
You don't have to give the victim of a kidnapping crime what they demand while you participate in the kidnapping or crime. However the victim of the kidnapping does not have to attempt to collect the phone which is evidence nor hold the suspect at gunpoint who came to pick up the cash/package. There be the rub.
We do not have to speculate that he shot somebody for no reason. The reason is clear in the story. And yes, we should know his history.That is a great point. I think another thing we can ask is the history of the 81-year-old man. Why would he just shoot someone out of nowhere. The guy lived 80 years as a good citizen in this country.
Thanks for providing important details on the case. People in this country have a right to protect themselves. They have a right to fight back against scammers.
I did not know it was a school zone and there were no children present when I got a ticket for doing 30mph in a 20mph school zone.
Ignorance is not a defense.
Uber drivers don’t pick up a package. They pick up passengers or they go to a restaurant and pick up food and deliver the food. I know this because I worked for Uber previously.
This seems like another story of, "let the black people rob old white men".
Do not defend yourself from crime,
We do not have to speculate that he shot somebody for no reason. The reason is clear in the story.
Well I can tell you that Uber does not care about its drivers. They are one of the worst companies to work for. They only care about money. They fire their drivers for the flimsiest of reasons. Customers often lie about a bad ride just to get a free ride, and then the driver gets fired.We do not have to speculate that he shot somebody for no reason. The reason is clear in the story. And yes, we should know his history.
And we should know the Uber driver history as well.
And the Uber driver should know the history of Uber as well. That history being this is not the first time an Uber driver was shot and killed. I wonder, what exactly does Uber teach their drivers. It seems like an awful dangerous thing, to send Uber drivers to random houses to pick up packages and deliver them.
I wonder how many Uber drivers pick up packages of heroin and drug money, delivering illicit goods, participating in crimes. This is an excellent way to circumvent arrest, use Uber to commit the crimes, Uber claims they were only being the, "mule", the drug runner. Only picking up packages!
This is an outrage. Fuck Uber, they are committing crimes and now they know it, now we all know it. It is guaranteed that across the nation Uber drivers are delivering drugs and money, participating in crimes.
If inadvertently running a person over as an Uber driver is vehicular manslaughter, than this is just as much a crime.
The difference between criminals and the victims, sometimes comes down to cooperation.
This leftwing story is thin on details. For example it says the woman posed no physical threat to him, so how did the old man "get injured to his head"? Did the tooth fairy hit him?
He did call 911, he did alert the police.Oh bullshit. He could have, should have called 911 to alert the cops. Instead he decided to thwart the imagined scam, and capture an innocent bystander. That’s the thing about the use of force. It’s a bet your life action. If you are wrong, you are the one going to jail.
I wonder how many Uber drivers pick up packages of heroin and drug money, delivering illicit goods, participating in crimes. This is an excellent way to circumvent arrest, use Uber to commit the crimes, Uber claims they were only being the, "mule", the drug runner. Only picking up packages!
This is an outrage. Fuck Uber, they are committing crimes and now they know it, now we all know it. It is guaranteed that across the nation Uber drivers are delivering drugs and money, participating in crimes.
He did call 911, he did alert the police.
It was not an imagined scam, you made that up, in order to sway your argument into be believable. You are a liar, it was not imagined, at all.
It was not an innocent bystander, she came to the door to collect the ransom. The package. Criminals of course do not announce that they are here to collect the money for the kidnapping. They will simply state, I am here for the package, not admitting guilt or participation in the crime.
And that is the thing about guns, it is better to be caught with a gun then to be caught without the gun. And the other things about guns, don't fight with the person holding the gun, cooperate, and most likely you will never ever be shot.
So if the UPS driver shows up and says he has a pick up order in the system you shoot him?
UPS drivers drive easily identifiable company vehicles and wear uniforms. Have any more stupid handwaves?
They do pickups don’t they?
She was dispatched by uberHe did call 911, he did alert the police.
It was not an imagined scam, you made that up, in order to sway your argument into be believable. You are a liar, it was not imagined, at all.
It was not an innocent bystander, she came to the door to collect the ransom. The package. Criminals of course do not announce that they are here to collect the money for the kidnapping. They will simply state, I am here for the package, not admitting guilt or participation in the crime.
And that is the thing about guns, it is better to be caught with a gun then to be caught without the gun. And the other things about guns, don't fight with the person holding the gun, cooperate, and most likely you will never ever be shot.
Almost is very debatable.She was dispatched by uber
Its almost impossible for her to be part of a criminal conspiracy
