81% rate hike for Obamacare - enough yet?

Until the health insurance industry feels some competition, they are essentially a government mandated monopoly and will behave like one.

The GOP cannot even remove the "you must buy health insurance" mandate. We are forced by our government to pay outrageous premiums to crooks who do nothing but randomly distribute addictive pills.

End the mandate. Bring in some competition.
 
Trump and the GOP OWN healthcare in this country.
To say anything differently proves you're a goddamn liar..

Your BOY is the one that put the current system in place.

To say anything other than that proves you're just another Obama ass licker. Pucker up, BOY.
 
Until the health insurance industry feels some competition, they are essentially a government mandated monopoly and will behave like one.

The GOP cannot even remove the "you must buy health insurance" mandate. We are forced by our government to pay outrageous premiums to crooks who do nothing but randomly distribute addictive pills.

End the mandate. Bring in some competition.

Who are also mandated to spend 80 cents of every dollar collected on claims. It's such a thriving monopoly that most insurers have pulled completely out.
 
Where did JDAAC John Roberts find the "right" of the government to mandate Americans buying health insurance???

A: he made it up because mandating everyone in a government health care system allows for bigots/liars/traitors/kleptocrats in office to target those they don't like, which is usually those noticing too much truth.
 
I love how Obama lied and said the Obamacare mandate was not a tax.

The Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the Obamacare mandate because it IS a tax.

Obama's own lie would have gotten the bill shot down had it actually been true.
 
Yup.

81%

Health Insurers in Idaho Request Premium Rate Hikes As High As 81%

Health care insurers in Idaho have requested premium rate hikes as high as 81 percent for next year, according to the state's Department of Insurance.

The five insurers serving the individual market in Idaho are Blue Cross of Idaho Health Service, Mountain Health Co-Op, PacificSource Health Plans, Regence BlueShield of Idaho, and SelectHealth.

For all plans, insurers requested rates ranging from a low of 25 percent to a high of 51 percent for a combined average statewide rate increase of 38 percent. For Obamacare's popular Silver plan, the average rate increase among all insurers was even higher at 50 percent, with one insurer requesting a high of 81 percent.

"I am deeply disappointed and frustrated to share these rates," said Dean Cameron, who directs the department. "I understand how difficult it will be for Idahoans to afford reasonable coverage, especially those without a subsidy."


Some victims of The "Affordable Care" Act (read "Obamacare) are now paying more for health insurance than for their house mortgage/tax escrow montly. For some having deciding whether to have "affordable health care" or a place to live.

Congratulations liberals (off both parties)! You're quickly achieving the goal of turning Americans into welfare drones - 'cause then they get Obamacaid (Medicaid) ffor free. Well, free to THEM but straight out of YOUR pocket.
They would have hiked them regardless.

Stop listening to healthcare Giants Republicans and idiots
They wouldn't be hiking them by 81%, moron.

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This is an insurer request, dupe, and won't happen. By now you should know this is GOP bs...

So you're saying 81% just won't happen. What type of price hike will happen 50%, 70%?
He will never answer that because the truth is so embarrassing.
 
Obama lied about Obamacare.
You mean his predictions turned out to perhaps be wrong 5 years later, after changes that were not of his doing...he also underestimated the idiocy of GOPers vis a vis scam policies...

His claims that people could keep the plan/doctor they liked turned out to be a lie because of his doing.
Of course, those cheap GOP plans were scams that the dupes are suckers for, and the doctor/network problem started before ACA. Many happened because people signed up for networks that didn't cover their doctors. Fix it then.
 
I love how Obama lied and said the Obamacare mandate was not a tax.

The Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the Obamacare mandate because it IS a tax.

Obama's own lie would have gotten the bill shot down had it actually been true.
Obama wanted to do it without a mandate...
 
Yup.

81%

Health Insurers in Idaho Request Premium Rate Hikes As High As 81%

Health care insurers in Idaho have requested premium rate hikes as high as 81 percent for next year, according to the state's Department of Insurance.

The five insurers serving the individual market in Idaho are Blue Cross of Idaho Health Service, Mountain Health Co-Op, PacificSource Health Plans, Regence BlueShield of Idaho, and SelectHealth.

For all plans, insurers requested rates ranging from a low of 25 percent to a high of 51 percent for a combined average statewide rate increase of 38 percent. For Obamacare's popular Silver plan, the average rate increase among all insurers was even higher at 50 percent, with one insurer requesting a high of 81 percent.

"I am deeply disappointed and frustrated to share these rates," said Dean Cameron, who directs the department. "I understand how difficult it will be for Idahoans to afford reasonable coverage, especially those without a subsidy."


Some victims of The "Affordable Care" Act (read "Obamacare) are now paying more for health insurance than for their house mortgage/tax escrow montly. For some having deciding whether to have "affordable health care" or a place to live.

Congratulations liberals (off both parties)! You're quickly achieving the goal of turning Americans into welfare drones - 'cause then they get Obamacaid (Medicaid) ffor free. Well, free to THEM but straight out of YOUR pocket.
They would have hiked them regardless.

Stop listening to healthcare Giants Republicans and idiots
They wouldn't be hiking them by 81%, moron.

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This is an insurer request, dupe, and won't happen. By now you should know this is GOP bs...

So you're saying 81% just won't happen. What type of price hike will happen 50%, 70%?
He will never answer that because the truth is so embarrassing.
Already did. Lower cost rise than before ACA.
 
The actual problem with our system is that it's 50-120% more expensive than anywhere else. Time to go after that duhhh...

The actual problem with our system is that the government has no place in it. Time to stop that.
That's what we had with care 2x as expensive as other better systems, full of scams, bankruptcies, and 40k dead a year.
 
The actual problem with our system is that it's 50-120% more expensive than anywhere else. Time to go after that duhhh...
It's expensive because government has made it expensive. If you look at the growth in costs, they began their upward climb when Medicare was created.
And insurance became popular, and the GOP and insurers made gov't regulation a crime..and specialist doctors became the thing...and the Great Society was dismantled...
We have no regulations on insurance? You are actually claiming that to be a fact?

:cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo:
None that worked on costs....
Of course they didn't work. When have government regulations ever worked to keep costs down? They always do exactly the opposite.

So you've gone from claiming there were no regulations to claiming that they didn't work. Apparently that's what snowflakes mean when they claim something was "deregulated." It means their hair-brained schemes didn't work. That's not a very good justification for more regulations, don't ya think?
You think I'm an expert on regulation of GOP/AMA etc Big Health? Nothing that mattered all those years. That would be a communist conspiraceeeeee!!!!!!!!!
 
nope ..

WASHINGTON — Bipartisanship is suddenly the talk of Capitol Hill, where Republicans and Democrats are now expressing a tentative desire to join hands after a brutal debate over Obamacare repeal.

In the House, the "Problem Solvers" caucus, which consists of 43 members from both parties, put out a list of broad principles for a series of Obamacare tweaks.

"My hope is we can be responsible legislators and recognize we can take on those cost issues, we can take on the issue of health care, but let's do it together," said Rep. Tom Reed, R-N.Y., who chairs the caucus, in an interview Tuesday.

The group's proposals include guaranteeing cost-sharing reduction payments to insurers, adding funding to help insurers cover expensive patients, partially repealing Obamacare's requirement for businesses to offer health benefits, and scrapping the law's tax on medical devices.

They also offered options to pay for the package, such as encouraging the use of generic drugs in Medicare. The cost could be a significant stumbling block to passage since it's likely the proposal would "significantly increase the deficit," according to Matthew Fiedler, a fellow at the Brookings Instutition.

In the Senate, Republican and Democratic leaders on the health committee announced in a joint statement that they would hold hearings early next month on how to calm Obamacare's tumultuous insurance markets.

"In my opinion, any solution that Congress passes for a 2018 stabilization package would need to be small, bipartisan and balanced," said Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., the committee's chairman, in a statement.


deal with it ... ACA is the law.

Republicans chair the committee.
Bipartisan?
LOL

Not a single republican vote for the dems destroying american health care
your boy barry owns this mess
 
It's expensive because government has made it expensive. If you look at the growth in costs, they began their upward climb when Medicare was created.
And insurance became popular, and the GOP and insurers made gov't regulation a crime..and specialist doctors became the thing...and the Great Society was dismantled...
We have no regulations on insurance? You are actually claiming that to be a fact?

:cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo:
None that worked on costs....
Of course they didn't work. When have government regulations ever worked to keep costs down? They always do exactly the opposite.

So you've gone from claiming there were no regulations to claiming that they didn't work. Apparently that's what snowflakes mean when they claim something was "deregulated." It means their hair-brained schemes didn't work. That's not a very good justification for more regulations, don't ya think?
You think I'm an expert on regulation of GOP/AMA etc Big Health? Nothing that mattered all those years. That would be a communist conspiraceeeeee!!!!!!!!!
Glad you are so well informed :rolleyes:
 
Obama lied about Obamacare.
You mean his predictions turned out to perhaps be wrong 5 years later, after changes that were not of his doing...he also underestimated the idiocy of GOPers vis a vis scam policies...

His claims that people could keep the plan/doctor they liked turned out to be a lie because of his doing.
Of course, those cheap GOP plans were scams that the dupes are suckers for, and the doctor/network problem started before ACA. Many happened because people signed up for networks that didn't cover their doctors. Fix it then.

I've proposed how to fix it. Your BOY didn't listen.
 
They would have hiked them regardless.

Stop listening to healthcare Giants Republicans and idiots
They wouldn't be hiking them by 81%, moron.

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This is an insurer request, dupe, and won't happen. By now you should know this is GOP bs...

So you're saying 81% just won't happen. What type of price hike will happen 50%, 70%?
He will never answer that because the truth is so embarrassing.
Already did. Lower cost rise than before ACA.

None of the costs associated with my healthcare plan increased until BarryCare went into effect.
 
The actual problem with our system is that it's 50-120% more expensive than anywhere else. Time to go after that duhhh...

The actual problem with our system is that the government has no place in it. Time to stop that.
That's what we had with care 2x as expensive as other better systems, full of scams, bankruptcies, and 40k dead a year.

If someone went bankrupt, it's your fault. You claim they deserve something they didn't earn. Pay it yourself. I don't owe it to them.

Does that mean all 40K would have lived if what you support would have been in place? Are you saying people that all the people that are sick don't die now due to Obamacare?
 
They would have hiked them regardless.

Stop listening to healthcare Giants Republicans and idiots
They wouldn't be hiking them by 81%, moron.

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This is an insurer request, dupe, and won't happen. By now you should know this is GOP bs...

So you're saying 81% just won't happen. What type of price hike will happen 50%, 70%?
He will never answer that because the truth is so embarrassing.
Already did. Lower cost rise than before ACA.

Yes, but you pulled that number out of your rear.
 
They would have hiked them regardless.

Stop listening to healthcare Giants Republicans and idiots
They wouldn't be hiking them by 81%, moron.

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This is an insurer request, dupe, and won't happen. By now you should know this is GOP bs...

So you're saying 81% just won't happen. What type of price hike will happen 50%, 70%?
He will never answer that because the truth is so embarrassing.
Already did. Lower cost rise than before ACA.
Horseshit.
 
I want tax cuts and cheap college and training for YOU, dupe. And you dupes have got the richest paying less %wise than the middle class and getting all the new wealth. You morons believe the rich pay too much! Absolute brainwashed idiocy...
How does it feel to be envious all your life? Lol
How does it feel to be a total dumbass all of YOUR life?
You tell us.

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Of all those who post here, you would have the most knowledge on this.
It's difficult to choose among all the brain damaged snowflakes in here as to who would have the least information.
You know that the alternative facts you spew really aren't facts, right. You support the biggest liar ever to bee elected President
 
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