NYcarbineer
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I guess if 78 percent of Americans felt we should outlaw guns, we should get right on that!
Argumentum ad populum
Remember the 90% or more surveyed that wanted universal background checks?
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I guess if 78 percent of Americans felt we should outlaw guns, we should get right on that!
Argumentum ad populum
Gosh, I guess it is a good thing 100 percent of us have to prove citizenship to register to vote then!
I should not have to prove my citizenship to anyone.
15th amendment: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
19th amendment: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
26th amendment: The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.
How does that language differ from this: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
It doesn't.
YOU do it every DAY. YOU just don't realize it.I've voted since I was able to. That was many many moons ago. I should not have to prove my citizenship to anyone. And I will vote.
Where does the RIGHT come from in the Constitution to VOTE in a Federal Election?15th amendment: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
19th amendment: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
26th amendment: The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.
How does that language differ from this: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
It doesn't.


I guess if 78 percent of Americans felt we should outlaw guns, we should get right on that!
Argumentum ad populum
Apples and oranges. Your right to bear arms is in the constitution. Your right to vote is not. Each state can set their own standards as to who is eligible to vote. Amendments to the constitution said what elements can not be used in determining a person's eligibility. But no constitutional right exists. Never has. Look it up.
15th amendment: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
19th amendment: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
26th amendment: The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.
How does that language differ from this: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
It doesn't.
Those amendments all say your right to vote shall not be infringed, denied or abridged because of gender, age above 18 or race. Nowhere does it explicitly spell out your right to vote because there isn't one. If there was, you could have easily cut and pasted the clause that said the right to vote shall not be denied any citizen....period. All there is are exclusions to what can not be used in determining eligibility. You can't deny a black female over the age of 18 the right to vote based on her being black, female, or 18. You can however deny her the right to vote in my state if she is a convicted felon.
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For example, nothing in the Constitution would prevent a state from putting a maximum age on vote, say 65. It would also be perfectly legal to prevent anyone collecting welfare from voting.
What about illegals who are trying to vote?"YOU do it every DAY. YOU just don't realize it."
So therefore I won't have to show any ID to vote and nor should I. It violates my right to vote that shall not be denied.
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For example, nothing in the Constitution would prevent a state from putting a maximum age on vote, say 65. It would also be perfectly legal to prevent anyone collecting welfare from voting.
26th amendment: The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.
Learn to read.
WHERE in the Constitution guarantees YOUR right to VOTE in a FEDERAL election? YOU need to try harder carbonated.[
For example, nothing in the Constitution would prevent a state from putting a maximum age on vote, say 65. It would also be perfectly legal to prevent anyone collecting welfare from voting.
26th amendment: The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.
Learn to read.

According to Obama and his parade of Progressives...shall not be denied....What about illegals who are trying to vote?"YOU do it every DAY. YOU just don't realize it."
So therefore I won't have to show any ID to vote and nor should I. It violates my right to vote that shall not be denied.

Ah. My bet was right.
Here is what the driver's license for an illegal alien in Illinois looks like: New Temporary Visitor Driver?s License (TVDL) for Undocumented (Non-Visa Status) Individuals
It has "TVDL" stamped on it.
Took me ten seconds to find out.
Took a critical thinking brain to think of the question, though. So tough luck for the rubes.
Great.....except that liberals fight tooth and nail to keep you from having to present said ID when you show up at the polls, so moot point.
That is because Voter ID does not stop the types of voter fraud which actually occur. Voter ID is completely ineffective.
What do you call a person who supports spending taxpayer dollars on a completely ineffective government expansion of power? I call such people liberals. Rubes.
Critical thinking, son. Critical thinking.
Gosh, I guess it is a good thing 100 percent of us have to prove citizenship to register to vote then!
I guess if 78 percent of Americans felt we should outlaw guns, we should get right on that!
Argumentum ad populum
Apples and oranges. Your right to bear arms is in the constitution. Your right to vote is not.
Your right to vote is in the constitution several times.
15th amendment: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
19th amendment: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
26th amendment: The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.
How does that language differ from this: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
It doesn't.