72% Believe Small Business Owners Primarily Responsible for Their Own Success

[Foxfyre]

Romney addressing the Olympics (summarized): Appreciate those who encouraged you, supported you, and made it possible to reach for your dream of an Olympic Medal. (No suggestion that anybody but you earned or deserves any part of that medal.)

Obama addressing a hand picked partisan crowd (summarized): Other people have done stuff that now benefits you and all of us therefore deserve as much credit for your building a business as you do and are as entitled to your profits as you are.

 

[lukelk]

yes i am serious, i am a small business owner that has followed the offers carefully. I suspected you were just a dnc mouth piece. Your response adds to that belief.


So provide the details.............

i am not and do not have anything to do with the dnc, also you keep asking for proof but you can no provide anything of substance, if you have been following my posts in this topic you will see some of my "proof" also what kind of bus. Do you own? What product do you make? How many employies do you have? Does your bus. Make your personal wealth hit 250k a year or more? Answer those and i will start to unravel proof to you.......

post your social security number. Personal information isn't smart on the internet.

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[rightwinger]

Romney addressing the Olympics (summarized): Appreciate those who encouraged you, supported you, and made it possible to reach for your dream of an Olympic Medal. (No suggestion that anybody but you earned or deserves any part of that medal.)

Obama addressing a hand picked partisan crowd (summarized): Other people have done stuff that now benefits you and all of us therefore deserve as much credit for your building a business as you do and are as entitled to your profits as you are.

Quite a stretch

They both had the same point

We have a great society and nobody suceeds by themselves

 

[saveliberty]

kettle calling the pot black, you ma'am have not offered ANY thing supporting your side, but you did the usual trick of deflect when asked a question or a series of questions. your the parrot squacking the normal line, you provide proof and I will respond, I asked your direct qustions and you didnt answer I told you I would supply answers to to your response, but I guess you missed that.......

We have actually shot down every point made by the left on this topic. You really shouldn't need anything other than an understanding of tax rules and how a small business operates to make your points. What is your problem?

Do you understand tax rules? Here's an interesting tidbit. The total gross income of the US is $9,780 trillion. The total revenue of the federal government is $5.1 trillion. That includes income tax, business taxes, fees, SS tax. That is an average tax rate of .05%. I don't know about you, but after all of my deductions and loop holes, I pay around 25% - give or take. That means if we all - and it would have to be all - paid a 1% tax rate for one year we would wipe out the national debt and create the biggest surplus in our nation's history.

Yet here I am paying 1/4 of my income just to the feds. It seems to me that someone out there is not pulling their weight.

Gross National Income statistics - Countries Compared - NationMaster

Federal State Local Government Revenue in United States for 2012 - Charts Tables

I know you don't pay 25% to the feds. Unless you count medicare and social security. I pay 10% more than you because I own a business and the other half of ss and medicare come out of my pocket too. Your a whiner. I'm not complaining about what I pay, I just want to have streamlined paperwork from the government and to not be put down by the president.

 

[saveliberty]

I am NOT and do NOT have anything to do with the DNC, also you keep asking for proof but you can no provide ANYTHING of substance, if you have been following my posts in this topic you will see some of my "proof" also what kind of bus. do you own? what product do you make? how many employies do you have? does your bus. make your personal wealth hit 250k a year or more? answer those and I will start to unravel proof to you.......

Post your social security number. Personal information isn't smart on the internet.

I work as policeman in Philadelphia pa usa, 16th district west philadelphia, badge number 2242 , that is hardly enough information for someone to steal my lifes info, its not my fault if he does not have the balls to actually hold up his side of the argument.......

A real policeman would know that is more than enough to cause havoc.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

Romney addressing the Olympics (summarized): Appreciate those who encouraged you, supported you, and made it possible to reach for your dream of an Olympic Medal. (No suggestion that anybody but you earned or deserves any part of that medal.)

Obama addressing a hand picked partisan crowd (summarized): Other people have done stuff that now benefits you and all of us therefore deserve as much credit for your building a business as you do and are as entitled to your profits as you are.

Wow. What an incredibly narrow-minded, cherry-picked, DUMB fucking thing to say.

Here's the actual transcript of Obama's speech. Go ahead and point out where he said what you're assigning to him:

FactCheck.org : ‘You Didn’t Build That,’ Uncut and Unedited

Obama, July 13:

There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me — because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t — look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That’s how we funded the GI Bill. That’s how we created the middle class. That’s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That’s how we invented the Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running for President — because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own, we’re in this together.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

We have actually shot down every point made by the left on this topic. You really shouldn't need anything other than an understanding of tax rules and how a small business operates to make your points. What is your problem?

Do you understand tax rules? Here's an interesting tidbit. The total gross income of the US is $9,780 trillion. The total revenue of the federal government is $5.1 trillion. That includes income tax, business taxes, fees, SS tax. That is an average tax rate of .05%. I don't know about you, but after all of my deductions and loop holes, I pay around 25% - give or take. That means if we all - and it would have to be all - paid a 1% tax rate for one year we would wipe out the national debt and create the biggest surplus in our nation's history.

Yet here I am paying 1/4 of my income just to the feds. It seems to me that someone out there is not pulling their weight.

Gross National Income statistics - Countries Compared - NationMaster

Federal State Local Government Revenue in United States for 2012 - Charts Tables

I know you don't pay 25% to the feds. Unless you count medicare and social security. I pay 10% more than you because I own a business and the other half of ss and medicare come out of my pocket too. Your a whiner. I'm not complaining about what I pay, I just want to have streamlined paperwork from the government and to not be put down by the president.

Funny. I have my own small business too, and I see YOU as the one whining.

 

[Stephanie]

Romney addressing the Olympics (summarized): Appreciate those who encouraged you, supported you, and made it possible to reach for your dream of an Olympic Medal. (No suggestion that anybody but you earned or deserves any part of that medal.)

Obama addressing a hand picked partisan crowd (summarized): Other people have done stuff that now benefits you and all of us therefore deserve as much credit for your building a business as you do and are as entitled to your profits as you are.

Quite a stretch

They both had the same point

We have a great society and nobody suceeds by themselves

No, that is YOUR point..
we aren't one big "commune"...but they are out there, you should go join one

 

[The T]

Romney addressing the Olympics (summarized): Appreciate those who encouraged you, supported you, and made it possible to reach for your dream of an Olympic Medal. (No suggestion that anybody but you earned or deserves any part of that medal.)

Obama addressing a hand picked partisan crowd (summarized): Other people have done stuff that now benefits you and all of us therefore deserve as much credit for your building a business as you do and are as entitled to your profits as you are.

Quite a stretch

They both had the same point

We have a great society and nobody suceeds by themselves

You're full of shit.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

Romney addressing the Olympics (summarized): Appreciate those who encouraged you, supported you, and made it possible to reach for your dream of an Olympic Medal. (No suggestion that anybody but you earned or deserves any part of that medal.)

Obama addressing a hand picked partisan crowd (summarized): Other people have done stuff that now benefits you and all of us therefore deserve as much credit for your building a business as you do and are as entitled to your profits as you are.

Quite a stretch

They both had the same point

We have a great society and nobody suceeds by themselves

No, that is YOUR point..
we aren't one big "commune"...but they are out there, you should go join one

Good thing the minutemen fighting in the revolution didn't all see themselves as not part of a team. We'd still be speaking the Queen's English and you'd be so dumb they'd put you in Dummy Prison.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

Romney addressing the Olympics (summarized): Appreciate those who encouraged you, supported you, and made it possible to reach for your dream of an Olympic Medal. (No suggestion that anybody but you earned or deserves any part of that medal.)

Obama addressing a hand picked partisan crowd (summarized): Other people have done stuff that now benefits you and all of us therefore deserve as much credit for your building a business as you do and are as entitled to your profits as you are.

Quite a stretch

They both had the same point

We have a great society and nobody suceeds by themselves

You're full of shit.

Eloquent. As always.

 

[Stephanie]

Romney addressing the Olympics (summarized): Appreciate those who encouraged you, supported you, and made it possible to reach for your dream of an Olympic Medal. (No suggestion that anybody but you earned or deserves any part of that medal.)

Obama addressing a hand picked partisan crowd (summarized): Other people have done stuff that now benefits you and all of us therefore deserve as much credit for your building a business as you do and are as entitled to your profits as you are.

Quite a stretch

They both had the same point

We have a great society and nobody suceeds by themselves

You're full of shit.

I think he fancies himself a hippie...to much wacky tabacky

 

[buckeye45_73]

Do you understand tax rules? Here's an interesting tidbit. The total gross income of the US is $9,780 trillion. The total revenue of the federal government is $5.1 trillion. That includes income tax, business taxes, fees, SS tax. That is an average tax rate of .05%. I don't know about you, but after all of my deductions and loop holes, I pay around 25% - give or take. That means if we all - and it would have to be all - paid a 1% tax rate for one year we would wipe out the national debt and create the biggest surplus in our nation's history.

Yet here I am paying 1/4 of my income just to the feds. It seems to me that someone out there is not pulling their weight.

Gross National Income statistics - Countries Compared - NationMaster

Federal State Local Government Revenue in United States for 2012 - Charts Tables

I know you don't pay 25% to the feds. Unless you count medicare and social security. I pay 10% more than you because I own a business and the other half of ss and medicare come out of my pocket too. Your a whiner. I'm not complaining about what I pay, I just want to have streamlined paperwork from the government and to not be put down by the president.

Funny. I have my own small business too, and I see YOU as the one whining.

REAlly so you have dozens of employees with fantastic health benefits and they all make $100/hour? I mean that's what liberals whine that businesses dont do, so obviously you do?

 

[rightwinger]

Romney addressing the Olympics (summarized): Appreciate those who encouraged you, supported you, and made it possible to reach for your dream of an Olympic Medal. (No suggestion that anybody but you earned or deserves any part of that medal.)

Obama addressing a hand picked partisan crowd (summarized): Other people have done stuff that now benefits you and all of us therefore deserve as much credit for your building a business as you do and are as entitled to your profits as you are.

Quite a stretch

They both had the same point

We have a great society and nobody suceeds by themselves

You're full of shit.

No, actually we do have a great society

 

[ConservaDerrps]

I know you don't pay 25% to the feds. Unless you count medicare and social security. I pay 10% more than you because I own a business and the other half of ss and medicare come out of my pocket too. Your a whiner. I'm not complaining about what I pay, I just want to have streamlined paperwork from the government and to not be put down by the president.

Funny. I have my own small business too, and I see YOU as the one whining.

REAlly so you have dozens of employees with fantastic health benefits and they all make $100/hour? I mean that's what liberals whine that businesses dont do, so obviously you do?

Nah. I'm the sole proprietor and employee. But those 1099s gotsta come in, so I'm a business myself. I'm not a corporation though, sorry Mitt.

 

[saveliberty]

Funny. I have my own small business too, and I see YOU as the one whining.

REAlly so you have dozens of employees with fantastic health benefits and they all make $100/hour? I mean that's what liberals whine that businesses dont do, so obviously you do?

Nah. I'm the sole proprietor and employee. But those 1099s gotsta come in, so I'm a business myself. I'm not a corporation though, sorry Mitt.

Working for cash then and scamming the government. 25% tax rate, how laughable.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

REAlly so you have dozens of employees with fantastic health benefits and they all make $100/hour? I mean that's what liberals whine that businesses dont do, so obviously you do?

Nah. I'm the sole proprietor and employee. But those 1099s gotsta come in, so I'm a business myself. I'm not a corporation though, sorry Mitt.

Working for cash then and scamming the government. 25% tax rate, how laughable.

Uh. What? I report everything I make, dummy. I have to so I can write off things like my home office and stuff. You know, getting that help from the government so one day I can be a job creator! YAY!!!!

 

[saveliberty]

Nah. I'm the sole proprietor and employee. But those 1099s gotsta come in, so I'm a business myself. I'm not a corporation though, sorry Mitt.

Working for cash then and scamming the government. 25% tax rate, how laughable.

Uh. What? I report everything I make, dummy. I have to so I can write off things like my home office and stuff. You know, getting that help from the government so one day I can be a job creator! YAY!!!!

A lot of folks don't send out 1099s. Of course, you already know that. You've lied enough times for us to know you're going to cheat like crazy on your taxes.

 

[oreo]

but remember folks, you didn't hear what you heard Obama say

SNIP:
Monday, July 23, 2012

Most Americans believe entrepreneurs who start businesses do more to create jobs and economic growth than big businesses or government. They also believe overwhelmingly that small business owners work harder than other Americans and are primarily responsible for the success or failure of their businesses.

Seventy-two percent (72%) of Likely U.S. Voters believe that people who start small businesses are primarily responsible for their success or failure. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that only 13% disagree. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

all of it here
72% Believe Small Business Owners Primarily Responsible for Their Own Success - Rasmussen Reports™

Ya--at least it shows that 72% of this country haven't been brainwashed by Greek columns-staged lighting--perfectly pronounced speech's--written by others--and delivered off a teleprompter--along with singing performances--from our Harvard educated--community organizer--ECONOMIC MORON President.[/B]

"I'm saying it bluntly, that this administration is the greatest wet blanket to business, progress and job creation in my lifetime. A lot of people don't want to say that. They'll say, 'Oh God, don't be attacking Obama.' Well, this is Obama's deal, and it's Obama that's responsible for this fear in America."

"The guy [Obama] keeps making speeches about redistribution, and maybe 'we ought to do something to businesses that don't invest or hold too much money.' We haven't heard that kind of talk except from pure socialists."

"Business is being hammered. The business community in this country is frightened to death of the weird political philosophy of the president of the United States. Until he's gone, everybody's going to be sitting on their thumbs."

Democrat CEO--Steve Wynn
Steve Wynn's Anti-Obama Rant - Is He Right? - CBS News

"When you don't have a record to run on, you have to paint your opponent as someone people need to run from."--Barack Obama

 

[ConservaDerrps]

Working for cash then and scamming the government. 25% tax rate, how laughable.

Uh. What? I report everything I make, dummy. I have to so I can write off things like my home office and stuff. You know, getting that help from the government so one day I can be a job creator! YAY!!!!

A lot of folks don't send out 1099s. Of course, you already know that. You've lied enough times for us to know you're going to cheat like crazy on your taxes.

Well, God knows I'm going to give all kinds of fucks about a stranger on the Internet accusing me of being a tax cheat. You do understand that employers send out 1099s to the IRS too, so once they do a reckoning of the numbers, under-reporting will be caught, addressed, and you'll pay a penalty right?

Yeah, see, that's why I'M not a tax cheat.