700 Marines Deployed To LA To Back Up 2000 Additional NGs

[Zavulon]

My bet is that the Marines will do what they have to, to protect federal property and federal agents, right up to the letter of the law. And I would not test a Marine's mettle.

Exactly what I mean. They will "defend themselves" and then declare the victory without, may be, even one gangster killed. The pure imitation of activity and a cheap show, because 700 Marines (or even 7000 or 70000 of them) is not enough to actually fight cartels and immigrants (both legal and illegal).

 

[toobfreak]

Exactly what I mean. They will "defend themselves" and then declare the victory without, may be, even one gangster killed.

Well, we are talking about the military on US soil dealing with Americans. Not Russians dealing with other Russians.

The pure imitation of activity and a cheap show, because 700 Marines (or even 7000 or 70000 of them) is not enough to actually fight cartels and immigrants (both legal and illegal).

The 700 Marines will do nicely. We have plenty more if needed. As to a cartel, we don't need boots on the ground, we can take out a cartel with the push of a button.

And if you ever saw 70,000 Marines, it would be your worst day.

 

[Zavulon]

Well, we are talking about the military on US soil dealing with Americans. Not Russians dealing with other Russians.

Yep. Just political jestures and farting.

The 700 Marines will do nicely. We have plenty more if needed. As to a cartel, we don't need boots on the ground, we can take out a cartel with the push of a button.

Really? Are you going to bomb targets in California?

And if you ever saw 70,000 Marines, it would be your worst day.

Or, more likely, it would be their last day.

 

[Zavulon]

And if Americans start to kill Mexicans in California - quite likely Mexico will be forced to intervene directly.

 

[Mushroom]

This is not going to end well for the city of LA, Karen Bass or Gavin Newsom

It is simply going to increase the exodus of people like me that are fleeing the state.

I left California for a great many reasons over 5 years ago. And one of the biggest tipping points is actually rather close to this very thing.

Eight years ago, I was one of about 200,000 that were evacuated from the path of the Oroville Dam when it almost collapsed. I actually lived in Oroville, about 2 miles from the dam. And that event told me a hell of a lot about how jacked up the state has become.

Here is something that most people do not know, Governor Brown objected to the evacuation order. He objected so strongly that he tried to order the Sheriffs that did order it to rescind it and have people return to their homes. But none of them listened, especially as many of them still clearly remembered two devastating floods that had happened prior to 2017.

Most recently the 1997 flood, which destroyed over 1,000 homes and killed three people. And a decade before in 1986 was another one that was even worse, submerging multiple towns and killing 13 people.

And not only did the Governor try to order people to return to their homes, he never mobilized the National Guard!

I spent a significant amount of time in two different evacuation centers. And both of them were run by Red Cross volunteers that were frantic because the state gave them absolutely no assistance. Think about that for just a moment, 200,000 evacuees having to flee from their homes, and the state is giving absolutely no assistance at all.

But the state sure as hell was the first in line demanding Federal Disaster Relief payments.

So when the reports first started coming out that for the third time in my life the city I was born in was being rocket by multiple day riots yet again, I simply nodded. Especially as once again the Governor is doing an impersonation of an ostrich and trying to pretend that there is nothing going on.

Now living in LA, riots are actually not all that unusual. Most spectacularly, any time the Lakers won the championship there were riots. The same thing often happened to one degree or another any time one of the teams in the area won a championship (and sometimes when the lost). But what is happening now is far more akin to 1992 than it is to what happened in 2009.



Now those were basically "one night riots", and were over by the time dawn broke. But the moment this entered the second day, the Governor should have been mobilizing the National Guard. Just like the Governor should have mobilized the National Guard in 2017.

In the end, this is just going to make more people leave the cities then the state. When I returned to California in 2012, I made the conscious decision to not return to the LA area, and to settle somewhere farther north. And over the next 7 years I kept moving farther and farther north, and things just got worse and worse statewide. Until I finally just left the damned state.

 

[Mushroom]

Press provides comedy gold

Hardly the first time we have seen that.



This is just the LA version of "Fiery but mostly peaceful".

 

[Mushroom]

How do you "manufacture" a riot of full out contemptuous anarchy waving flags from foreign countries with sister riots planned for other cities?

Simple, they themselves manufactured it.

One of the first things I noticed is how many professionally made signs and banners are seen everywhere. I knew tons of people who were of Mexican heritage, none of which owned a Mexican flag. Yet there are hundreds of them everywhere all of a sudden.

It literally reminds me of something I saw in a movie three decades ago.

 

[toobfreak]

Just political jestures and farting.

Gee, do all Russians talk so much?

 

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It doesn't matter. Democrats support all crime.

 

[Manonthestreet]

And if Americans start to kill Mexicans in California - quite likely Mexico will be forced to intervene directly.

fine.....we own Mexico then as a protectorate and we will have carte blanche to deal with the cartels

 

[Zavulon]

Gee, do all Russians talk so much?

Not at all. Yet, when we see a problem, like, you know, with the Ukrainians - we solve it.

 

[Zavulon]

fine.....we own Mexico then as a protectorate and we will have carte blanche to deal with the cartels

Well, you can't even afford yourself to control your own border, can you?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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Marines have arrived. Pretty formidable looking.

 

[toobfreak]

when we see a problem, like, you know, with the Ukrainians - we solve it.

Must be why you had to call in help from the Chinese and North Koreans, call in civilians, so that after four years in the mud, you barely took a sliver of a tiny, tiny country. Then got a third of your strategic bombers taken out in one night by drones.

 

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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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They're now making MANY arrests.


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[Zavulon]

Must be why you had to call in help from the Chinese and North Koreans, call in civilians, so that after four years in the mud, you barely took a sliver of a tiny, tiny country.

Its not about territories at all. It is about denazification. And no, Ukraine is not tiny. It was largest country in Europe before 2022, and even now they are barely smaller than France.

Then got a third of your strategic bombers taken out in one night by drones.

It's not exactly true, and, after all, we are going to take some of American bombers or SSBNs (by a deniable proxy attack), too. It's not a problem.

 

[Slade3200]

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Marines have arrived. Pretty formidable looking.

Welcome to authoritarianism

 

[Mushroom]

Welcome to authoritarianism

Tell me, was it wrong for President Trump to activate the National Guard in 2021?

I seem to remember him getting attacked for the delayed response for something that started at around 1 PM, and there was no National Guard called up until after 5 PM.

That was a one day event, yet this has been going on for almost a week now. In fact, it reminds me of Katrina, where the President pretty much told the Governor that either she would have to call for an evacuation, or he would do it himself.

 

[Slade3200]

Tell me, was it wrong for President Trump to activate the National Guard in 2021?

I seem to remember him getting attacked for the delayed response for something that started at around 1 PM, and there was no National Guard called up until after 5 PM.

That was a one day event, yet this has been going on for almost a week now. In fact, it reminds me of Katrina, where the President pretty much told the Governor that either she would have to call for an evacuation, or he would do it himself.

I’d say any president is out of line to call in the us military to handle a situation happening in a state that local law enforcement and leadership is saying they don’t need the help. Anybody who claims to be a conservative should agree. This was an authoritarian move plain and simple