70% of those infected with Kung Flu wore masks, followed CDC guidelines.

Conservatives have recovered from trump's denials, now recognize the seriousness of the disease, and are responding accordingly.
Trump has been correct from the beginning

its up to the states to decide their shutdown proceedures

but money from Uncle Santa Claus will not last forever

sooner or later the baby hitlers will have to let their people go back to work

Trump has never been correct, in business or in politics. He's a loser, and a very bad loser.
A weak-minded, easily influenced fool
 
The medical profession is not in solidarity that masks are a good thing however all the non-medical Democrat governors and mayors that gleefully shut down and bankrupt our economy tell you that. I know, anything to get rid of your "Orange Man Bad" even if it means making a population suffer is what you 'trust.'

Seriously, I think some of these governors are running for prez on the basis of their East Germany-type lockdowns and new laws. I KNOW the governor of Maryland is, Hogan, not that he'll go far: this guy is supposed to be a Republican?? He thinks any Republican in this otherwise deep-blue state is going to support him or give him one thin dime? Ha. But incredible as it seems to me, that Newsom guy in California is being talked up as a prez possibility on the basis of (well, looks, first) his draconian lockdowns and laws against anyone making a living. And of course Cuomo --- that's why his enemies are bringing out the sex scandal stuff so fast.

"Never let a crisis go to waste." I don't know which of Reagan's 11 rules for Republicans that one is --- has to be at least No. 4. (I am aware that Rahm Emmanuel said it, but the politics rules are party-free. Like No. 1, never be caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy.)
It doesn't end with Newsom. Inslee in WA thinks he is some kind of messiah as well. First he infected the most vulnerable in LTC facilities right of the bat, inflating mortality numbers, then he moved four infected people 300 miles away to Spokane (in the first month, when eastern WA had NO covid) and then this summer after a town was devastated by wildfire, he felt is was prudent to bring apple maggot-infested fruit into an apple production part of the state in violation of state law and his response was, "Duh, I guess I should have had it checked first." These Piglosi clones are morons and the people that voted for them are dumber still.
 
Your reasoning is not only stupid, but it proves you are anti social.

You think being sociable means controlling people and ordering everyone to do whatever idiocy you want them to? Darn. I'm not sure everyone would agree with you on that! What about people who don't want to do just what you tell them to? Do you think they are all antisocial?

No I don't think being sociable means controlling people. But I do think people like you are as welcome as a turd in a punch bowl, that is anti social. Some because they are raised that way, some because they are truly stupid, and some who really truly believe everything trump tells them by word or his behavior.
 
...Listen to yourself, you are afraid of a common disease, you are afraid of people who don't wear masks. I am NOT afraid of a one-world government or communism or socialism. I enjoy the "republic" that I live in and if you are intent on attempting to make me live under your choice of government, be advised, you better be more committed to yours than I am to mine because better people than you have attempted to usurp my rights. Unfortunately they paid the price of failure. Are you that committed?
Oh, look, Mommy... another phone Internet Tough Guy... pi$$ing and moaning about Lost Rights... all that teenage angst over wearing a mask... :auiqs.jpg:
Oh look son, another wanna-be comedian pissing and moaning about whether or not someone else wears a mask. He was commenting yesterday on how nice the emperors new clothes looked. Pffft!
 
Your reasoning is not only stupid, but it proves you are anti social.

You think being sociable means controlling people and ordering everyone to do whatever idiocy you want them to? Darn. I'm not sure everyone would agree with you on that! What about people who don't want to do just what you tell them to? Do you think they are all antisocial?

No I don't think being sociable means controlling people. But I do think people like you are as welcome as a turd in a punch bowl, that is anti social. Some because they are raised that way, some because they are truly stupid, and some who really truly believe everything trump tells them by word or his behavior.
Biden is in the lead--followed by a gajillion lemmings who are nose to ass all the way to the cliff.
 
Nobody ever claimed they protected you, dickhead! They prevent assholes who are asymptomatic from spreading it! My God, you are ******* thick!
So all these super smart Sheeple who wear a mask all the time and follow CDC guidelines hang out with people who don't wear masks. Doesn't make sense, but then you never do.

I don't hang out with people who don't wear masks! That's why I have not died of COVID yet much less had a cold or the flu. When I see someone like that, I spin on my heels and evacuate the area.

You really are stretching now to defend your beliefs which have been proved to be a lie, Suck it up, dickhead! You are wrong!
Explain how 70% of those infected who wear masks and follow CDC guidelines are getting infected. This time try brining a link or something to back up your bullshit, Assflap.
They took their masks off to eat indoors at restaurants. You'd know that if you read the actual report. Posts misrepresent CDC study examining mask use

The September report, which examines the behavior of coronavirus patients before their diagnosis, revealed that those who tested positive were twice as likely to have dined at a restaurant. Rather than share key findings from the study, posts online incorrectly suggested that wearing masks makes you more likely to contract the coronavirus and that not wearing one would keep you from catching it.
That was for all of them, not just the mask wearers. So, if they all caught it at restaurants the infection rate would be about the same.

Oops!

There is no "oops". What the study showed was that eating indoors at restaurants exposed them to COVID. Taking the mask OFF to eat. Wear the stupid mask. It's not forever.
You wear it or stay in your basement. I am not afraid of your over-hyped virus.
Yes, I wear it...to protect others. That's what patriotic Americans do. Selfish, self centered, anti American, anti humanitarian pricks do not. Which category do you fall in? Pretty easy to suss that out...
I've been protecting myself quite well for a number of years, thank you. Protect yourself and quit worrying your little head about me. Run along now, go play in your basement.
 
The principal purpose of wearing a mask is do affirm submission to unconstitutional pseudo-laws. It shows your willingness to be ruled. To be no more than a serf. Very important for survival in a Socialist society. Your life is at risk if you fail to wear your submission scarf. Not so much from the virus but the more common and violence-causing rabies infection that festers in the liberal community.
 
Yeah, masks just don't work. It's training to get us all to obey, obey, obey whatever the leftists tell us to do. Quite severe training this year: not just wear face coverings like burkas and hajibs, but can't make a living, can't run a business, can't eat out, have to stand on chalk lines at grocery stores, can't visit relatives, can't have Thanksgiving or Christmas, can't send kids to school ------- are you trained yet?
I do hope this is sarcasm ^^^

Nope, if you haven't noticed we've lost alllllllllllll our freedoms this year, probably you're a leftist and don't want anyone to be free. For everyone to do what you want.

Go ahead and make a fool of yourself talking through a cloth covering your face; just don't tell other people what to do, that's the secret to being a good person. Ordering everyone around? Not so good.

You're full of shit! Your first sentence is stupid, your second is also stupid and a damn lie.

You go ahead and mock the wearing of a mask, make sure to go to bars and restaurants where the owners violate common sense and continue to operate. The learning on this message board is enlightening, the number of truly stupid people has amazed me.

But you dont have harsh words for Gavin the liar and hypocrite. Why?

My daughter had an outbreak at her place of work. 6 out of the 15 people in her work pod tested positive. She said it was no surprise who got the virus. It was the people mocking her wearing her mask everywhere, and following all of the guidelines. Now that her quarantine period is over, she's getting all of the double shifts she wants.

Quite frankly, I don't care what the politicians say or do, I listen to the scientists and follow their advice as much as possible. So if the politicians are going out and doing stupid shit, and holding parties, I don't give a rat's ass. I'm going to stay home and wait for my vaccine date to arrive. It won't be long.

And even after I get the vaccine, I will still be wearing a mask and social distancing, until we achieve herd immunity.

I'm all for your having the right to do just that. And good luck to you: I hope the vaccine thing goes well and protects you and doesn't cause any side effects. If people in your daughter's "work pod" (language has gotten very strange lately) were mocking her, I think they needed to be brought up very sharply. I wouldn't put up with that.

We should each do what we think best for ourselves and mind our own damn business and not be busybodies about what other people do. No obnoxious control-control-control behavior. That is 173% leftwing behavior because they WANT everyone controlled like in Stalin's Russia or East Germany with their secret police reporting on everybody all the time. I don't think they'd like it as much as they think they would.

Your reasoning is not only stupid, but it proves you are anti social. Go **** yourself, and leave space between you and other people, at least those who use common sense and empathy of those who are rational, something sickos like you don't have.
You believe that spending beyond your means is fiscally responsible and you have the cajones to question someone else's reasoning? HaHaHaHaHa! You are ridiculous and BTW, if the lord had endowed me better, I would take your advice. HaHaHaHaHa! I gotta pee.
 
You walking around without a mask potentially infecting others IS my business.

By your standard, we shouldn't care if people with HIV screw without a condom. That's cool with you I guess?

So.......................you are saying it's your business if people with HIV screw anyone without a condom? And .....you are going to do what to stop that bad behavior? You are going into homosexual bedrooms and check out their equipment, so to speak?

Seawytch, get serious: these men are not interested in you, and that's not your fault. But I suggest you don't waste your time checking every homosexual penis for a comdom, even if you DO think that's your right --------------- somehow. And really, it would be more polite to leave all that to them.
 
There is no "oops". What the study showed was that eating indoors at restaurants exposed them to COVID. Taking the mask OFF to eat. Wear the stupid mask. It's not forever.

Why don't you mind your own business? Serious question. Why do you think you have a right to order people to do things? It's not a good sign about one's character that they want to run everyone's lives. The best people mind their own business and --- dare I say it --- respect diversity. You don't.
Your right to walk around mask-free ends with your ability to infect me-and-mine.

In a public health emergency the Gubmint gets to force you to do all KINDS of related stuff in the interest of public health in a pandemic.

Now... $hut the phukk up... stop your babyish whining and crying... and put on a phukking mask.
Shut me up and make me wear a mask, internet bad-ass puke. If you think you are in danger because I don't wear a mask, then hide in your basement. Walmart will deliver your groceries. Problem solved, Einstein.
 
Conservatives have recovered from trump's denials, now recognize the seriousness of the disease, and are responding accordingly.
Trump has been correct from the beginning

its up to the states to decide their shutdown proceedures

but money from Uncle Santa Claus will not last forever

sooner or later the baby hitlers will have to let their people go back to work

Trump has never been correct, in business or in politics. He's a loser, and a very bad loser.
Life is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. Please take note.
 
Could that be a disclaimer to avoid lawsuits? Not only could it be, but it is because masks are a big help but not a catch-all as any idiot knows. Any medications that you see advertised have disclaimers.
It is the law of the land. What an uninformed and naive analysis!
Weird how hand sanitizers and disinfectants aren't worried about lawsuits.

You lose again.

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what the hell are you talking about? On that box is a DISCLAIMER. The 2 bottles that you refer to have nothing to disclaim! What a numb scull. You are out of your league, so try someone else, ok?

WTF are you babbling about, Booboob?

Masks say they don't work on the Kung Flu on the label. The other two products say the do work against the King Flu on the label. You said it was just a liability issue for the masks.

Two questions (that you will dodge)

1. Why do masks specifically say they don't work? If they make no claim about working for the Kung Flu there is no liability.

2. Why do hand sanitizers and disinfectants say they do work against the Kung Flu if labeling is all about liability?
 
Didn't even bother to read the article you posted, huh? That would be expecting too much from you. Well, here are the highlights. And we won't even go into it as a disputed study.
Bottom line?...Wear the damn mask. And quit yer bitchin!

"It is possible that some of the infections may have been caused by removing face coverings for food or drink. Another possibility is airflow, as “direction, ventilation and intensity of airflow might affect virus transmission, even if social distancing measures and mask use are implemented according to current guidance,” according to the CDC report"

"However, the CDC report further explained that it is impossible to evaluate exactly where someone contracted the virus"
“Characterization of community exposures can be difficult to assess when widespread transmission is occurring, especially from asymptomatic persons within inherently interconnected communities,” the report stated".


"Despite this, face masks are still shown to be the most effective means of slowing the spread of the virus, and medical bodies worldwide recommend wearing them and maintaining social distancing measures".
So, according to that quote, the dawning of masks can cause infections, ventilation can cause infection and it's impossible to tell where a person contracted the virus. Then IN THE SAME QUOTE they say "despite" the scientific evidence we should all wear masks. Yet here is JackOfNoTrades insulting folks for not interpreting the article the same as him. Quite the height of arrogance. "Believe what I tell you not what you actually read."

Oh please, I get it. You don't want to wear a mask. Fine. Just don't inflict your poor judgement on everyone else. Stay home. Or, do the right thing and wear the mask.
It's only for a bit longer. Till everyone gets that vaccine with a tracking chip in their arm and....LOL. Sorry, couldn't resist.
Howsabout YOU stay home if you are askeered of someone who isn't wearing a mask. Your Snowflakedom doesn't mean others have to forfeit their freedoms.
 
Tell me again how we have to wear masks......

Please, do not wear a mask! Get out there and mingle closely, hugging and kissing with your like minded brethren. It's good for you!!!

ps - But, please, keep your sorry ass away from the rest of us! Bigly!!!
Sounds like you are another libnut Snowflake that needs to stay under your bed with your binky.
 
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Nobody ever claimed they protected you, dickhead! They prevent assholes who are asymptomatic from spreading it! My God, you are ******* thick!
So all these super smart Sheeple who wear a mask all the time and follow CDC guidelines hang out with people who don't wear masks. Doesn't make sense, but then you never do.

I don't hang out with people who don't wear masks! That's why I have not died of COVID yet much less had a cold or the flu. When I see someone like that, I spin on my heels and evacuate the area.

You really are stretching now to defend your beliefs which have been proved to be a lie, Suck it up, dickhead! You are wrong!
Explain how 70% of those infected who wear masks and follow CDC guidelines are getting infected. This time try brining a link or something to back up your bullshit, Assflap.
They took their masks off to eat indoors at restaurants. You'd know that if you read the actual report. Posts misrepresent CDC study examining mask use

The September report, which examines the behavior of coronavirus patients before their diagnosis, revealed that those who tested positive were twice as likely to have dined at a restaurant. Rather than share key findings from the study, posts online incorrectly suggested that wearing masks makes you more likely to contract the coronavirus and that not wearing one would keep you from catching it.
That was for all of them, not just the mask wearers. So, if they all caught it at restaurants the infection rate would be about the same.

Oops!

There is no "oops". What the study showed was that eating indoors at restaurants exposed them to COVID. Taking the mask OFF to eat. Wear the stupid mask. It's not forever.

The study showed no such thing. They have no clue if restaurants are where they contracted the Kung Flu.

The study didn't differentiate between mask wearers and non wearers in restaurants, Dummy.

Both groups have to take their mask off to eat, so why are wearers 70% of the infections?
 
Could that be a disclaimer to avoid lawsuits? Not only could it be, but it is because masks are a big help but not a catch-all as any idiot knows. Any medications that you see advertised have disclaimers.
It is the law of the land. What an uninformed and naive analysis!
Weird how hand sanitizers and disinfectants aren't worried about lawsuits.

You lose again.

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what the hell are you talking about? On that box is a DISCLAIMER. The 2 bottles that you refer to have nothing to disclaim! What a numb scull. You are out of your league, so try someone else, ok?

WTF are you babbling about, Booboob?

Masks say they don't work on the Kung Flu on the label. The other two products say the do work against the King Flu on the label. You said it was just a liability issue for the masks.

Two questions (that you will dodge)

1. Why do masks specifically say they don't work? If they make no claim about working for the Kung Flu there is no liability.

2. Why do hand sanitizers and disinfectants say they do work against the Kung Flu if labeling is all about liability?
I got tired of BooBoo's moronic circular arguments and ignored him. Can't have a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
 
I

FROM THE OP LINK....

Infection with COVID-19 despite wearing protective measures has been recorded, with even medical professionals equipped with maximal personal protective equipment (PPE) occasionally contracting the virus.

Despite this, face masks are still shown to be the most effective means of slowing the spread of the virus, and medical bodies worldwide recommend wearing them and maintaining social distancing measures.

Also, Facebook fact-checker reviewed this study and was able to highlight some flaws:
"The comparison made in the claim cannot evaluate mask effectiveness in reducing the spread of COVID-19, because the study that the claim is based on included many more people who wear masks than people who didn’t," the fact-checker. "Of the 314 individuals surveyed in the study, only 11 never wore masks. Because the group sizes are so uneven, a comparison of the proportion of people who tested positive for COVID-19 who wore masks and who didn’t would show mask wearers to be the majority
Facebook fact checker? :laughing0301:

314 infected people surveyed.....70% of them wore masks.

Facebook “Factchecker”: They over sampled mask wearers.:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:
their study trial group only had 11 people in it, that did not ever wear a mask...and 303 people in the study group that did.... a more informed study would be half of the study group as mask wears, and half the study group of maskless deniers.

from what I've heard, non mask wearers are TWO TIMES likely to catch the corona virus than mask wearers.

btw, your article says the mask wears, wore their masks in public, except when eating out... these studies show that most mask wearers that catch covid, ate out in a restaurant, where they took their mask off.
You talk a lot about "what I've heard"..........this study and that study....and yet you bring zero to back any of it up.

The study in the OP is pretty straightforward, so you are having to lie to try to spin it. 314 infected people were studied, 70% were mask wearers and followers of CDC guidlines.

End of story. You can't lie your way to changing those facts.

As I said earlier, 314 infected people out of how many millions of cases?
Apparently you don't have a clue how studies are conducted.

How many people are polled out of tens of millions of voters to get a fairly accurate reading of political races?

Listen asshole, I taught statistics. You have no ******* clue what statistical significance is!


I don't give a shit what you taught, Elmer.

Bring something proving the study I linked is wrong, or STFU.

The small sample size proves it is suspect, I told you that that you don't know shit about statistics!
 
Nobody ever claimed they protected you, dickhead! They prevent assholes who are asymptomatic from spreading it! My God, you are ******* thick!
So all these super smart Sheeple who wear a mask all the time and follow CDC guidelines hang out with people who don't wear masks. Doesn't make sense, but then you never do.

I don't hang out with people who don't wear masks! That's why I have not died of COVID yet much less had a cold or the flu. When I see someone like that, I spin on my heels and evacuate the area.

You really are stretching now to defend your beliefs which have been proved to be a lie, Suck it up, dickhead! You are wrong!
Explain how 70% of those infected who wear masks and follow CDC guidelines are getting infected. This time try brining a link or something to back up your bullshit, Assflap.
They took their masks off to eat indoors at restaurants. You'd know that if you read the actual report. Posts misrepresent CDC study examining mask use

The September report, which examines the behavior of coronavirus patients before their diagnosis, revealed that those who tested positive were twice as likely to have dined at a restaurant. Rather than share key findings from the study, posts online incorrectly suggested that wearing masks makes you more likely to contract the coronavirus and that not wearing one would keep you from catching it.
That was for all of them, not just the mask wearers. So, if they all caught it at restaurants the infection rate would be about the same.

Oops!

There is no "oops". What the study showed was that eating indoors at restaurants exposed them to COVID. Taking the mask OFF to eat. Wear the stupid mask. It's not forever.

The study showed no such thing. They have no clue if restaurants are where they contracted the Kung Flu.

The study didn't differentiate between mask wearers and non wearers in restaurants, Dummy.

Both groups have to take their mask off to eat, so why are wearers 70% of the infections?

They aren't! They were likely infected while someone they were in close contact with was not wearing a mask. I keep telling you that masks protect others FROM you and not the other way around.
 

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