6th biggest river in world has been found

[ekrem]

Massive undersea river discovered in Turkish Black Sea
Massive undersea river discovered in Turkish Black Sea - Hurriyet Daily News and Economic Review

 

[ekrem]

350 times greater than the River Thames of England

(...) 22,000 cubic metres of water passing through the channel every second (...)

Undersea river discovered flowing on sea bed - Telegraph

Nice. Together with the already abundant on-earth water sources of Turkey, climate change can come - which will anyway come to the Middle East. UN predicts the region to dry up till the year 2040.

 

[Douger]

It's a good thing for the Turks it's saline.
If it were fresh water murka might have to take them some FreeDumb and DemoNcracy.

 

[ekrem]

It's a good thing for the Turks it's saline.
If it were fresh water murka might have to take them some FreeDumb and DemoNcracy.

Ok, I understand. We have to wait for more research if that source is convertable to drinkable water.
Still, 22.000 cubic meters per second of water flow is huge potential for hydro-power.
That would be an ambitious engineering project - if it is possible to build and use that source of water-flow. Turks in general industrialize their rivers.

For example the Euphrates has an average flow of 356 cubic meter per second.
Euphrates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tigris has average flow of 666 cubic meter per second
Tigris - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That new river has 22.000 cubic meter per second.
List of rivers by average discharge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Douger]

Too much trouble. Hydro power is easily attained by tidal movement but ' they" don't want that.

 

[dilloduck]

Underground saltwater tubing !

 

[ekrem]

Too much trouble. Hydro power is easily attained by tidal movement but ' they" don't want that.

We already produce 17% of electricity by hydro-plants.

Southeastern Anatolia Project
Southeastern Anatolia Project - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is one of the greatest water projects on earth. It will be fully completed in 2010.
It has cost 32 Billion $.

Under the GAP project, which is considered one of the most ambitious water development projects ever undertaken, Turkey will erect 22 dams, 19 hydroelectric power stations (with around 7.5 GW of generating capacity), and an expansive network of tunnels and irrigation canals covering 1.7 million hectares of land.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cabs/Turkey/Electricity.html

 

[ekrem]

Underground saltwater tubing !

Yes. But still, the Black Sea is already covered through extensive geological research on the sea-bed in last years.
4 Billion $ have been invested for oil exploration there:
usmb.com
http://www.usmessageboard.com/energy/114430-off-shore-exploration-reach-4-billion.html#post2234984

We found there oil and gas, so underwater-infrastructure of pipelines and electricity cables will anyway be layed there for oil extradiction. Production will start in 2015-2016:
Exxon, Turkey sign Black Sea oil exploration deal | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Dallas Business News

So, while we're at it underwater, it would be very visionary to also industrialize that underwater river for electricity production. In case it is technically possible. It has very huge potential for electricity generation.
But Turkey could not undertake such project technically on its own.

 

[dilloduck]

Don't like the underground saltwater tubing idea huh ?
I'm sure Israel will help with the technology.

 

[hortysir]

mmmmmmm
Turkey and Water.......mmmmm

 

[ekrem]

It is also very close to Istanbul and the river is not on the deep-sea of Black Sea. After 37 miles it flows into the deep-sea.

Caption: The seabed river flows from Turkey's Bosporus

British scientists find the world's sixth-largest river... at the bottom of the sea | Mail Online

Istanbul
(...) 5th largest city proper in the world with a population of 12.8 million, also making it the second largest metropolitan area in Europe by population, and the largest metropolitan city proper.[7] Istanbul is also a megacity, as well as the cultural, economic, and financial centre of Turkey.
Istanbul - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[AllieBaba]

It's a good thing for the Turks it's saline.
If it were fresh water murka might have to take them some FreeDumb and DemoNcracy.

Ok, I understand. We have to wait for more research if that source is convertable to drinkable water.
Still, 22.000 cubic meters per second of water flow is huge potential for hydro-power.
That would be an ambitious engineering project - if it is possible to build and use that source of water-flow. Turks in general industrialize their rivers.

For example the Euphrates has an average flow of 356 cubic meter per second.
Euphrates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tigris has average flow of 666 cubic meter per second
Tigris - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That new river has 22.000 cubic meter per second.
List of rivers by average discharge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why on earth would they bother with a river that's UNDERNEATH THE OCEAN? Why wouldn't they just use the ocean?

That's just crazy.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Water found! In the sea! Pictures at 11!

Isn't this like finding an air pocket in the sky?

 

[ekrem]

Why on earth would they bother with a river that's UNDERNEATH THE OCEAN? Why wouldn't they just use the ocean?

That's just crazy.

User Douger is right. When I first read the article, I thought it is fresh-water source beneath the sea-bed of Black Sea. It isn't, it is salt and a river within the Black Sea, not under it.
So, for drinking water it is the same as normal ocean water.

But, for energy production the throughput per second of the water is important.
That river flows 22.000 cubic meter per second. Or in other words, 61 times more throughput per second then the Euphrates river. It is also not on deep-sea of Black Sea and very close to Turkey's industrial production hub: Istanbul and Marmara region. It is 6th biggest river in world. And the possible electricity produceed from there would be a major contribution to the economy, as it is renewable and we do not have to pay Gas companies or nuclear-fuel rods.
So, it makes it attractive for exploiting, in case it is technically possible.

 

[Douger]

If it can be easily made into potable water or ag water there will be wars over it.
If it requires full desalination it's nothing more than a curiosity.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Pocket of dirt found buried in the Earth!

How weird is that?

 

[ekrem]

2010-2014 Investment Plan of State Water Works
PDF --> http://www.dsi.gov.tr/splan/ktmllite/files/uploads/pdf_dosyalar/dsi_sp_2010_2014.pdf

Relevant Graphic (explanation beneath it)-->

------------ Investment Budget
2010 ---- 4.8 Billion
2011 ----- 4.7 Billion
2012 ----- 5.4 Billion
2013 ----- 11 Billion
2014 ----- 11.9 Billion


Total investments in new dams and hydro-plants
2010-2014 ------ 38.1 Billion