" What is Islam's ultimate goal," Hoss? The sames as the Popes or any Church: To covert the world to their Religion. Guess who'se winning? Islam surpassed Catholics last year and growing...Do I care? Even Mormons try to convert people. Islam like Christianity hasn't used forced conversions for hundreds of years. It has spead voluntarily 10,000 miles to Indonesia. Islam will moderate as democracy and economics take hold. Its a long process that is inevitable.
However moderate it becomes it will never accept anything less than a two-state solution.
Time is on their side. Its Israel's move.
"Islam hasn't used....................." Don't make me puke. Where
aren't they forcing conversion? Don't you read the papers or watch the news? Or are you an ostrich?
No religion escapes forced conversions however the forced coversions inIndia were a result of a Civil War and in no way can account for the billion plus conversions thus far.
Use numbers and links Hoss.
Judaism
Forced conversions are rare, but are reported to have happened under the Hasmonean Empire. The Gentile Galileans, Samaritans and Idumaens were forced to convert to Judaism, (either by threats of exile, or threats of death, depending on the source.) For the forced conversion of the Idumaeans under John Hyrcanus, see Flavius Josephus Antiquities 13.257-258. For the forced conversion of the Ituraeans under Aristobulus, see Flavius Josephus Antiquities 13.319. In Eusebíus, Christianity, and Judaism Harold W. Attridge says that there is reason to think that Josephus account of their conversion is substantially accurate. He also writes, That these were not isolated instances but that forced conversion was a national policy is clear from the fact that Alexander Jannaeus (ca 80 BCE) demolished the city of Pella in Moab, because the inhabitants would not agree to adopt the national custom of the Jews. Josephus, Antiquities. 13.15.4, 397[11]
Maurice Sartre has written of the "policy of forced Judaization adopted by Hyrcanos, Aristobulus I and Jannaeus, who offered "the conquered peoples a choice between expulsion or conversion,[12]
And in 'The early Roman period, Volume 2', William David Davies has written that. The evidence is best explained by postulating that an existing small Jewish population in Lower Galilee was massively expanded by the forced conversion in c.104 BCE of their Gentile neighbours in the north.[13]
[edit] Islam
See also: Islamization, Conversion of non-Muslim places of worship into mosques, and Safavid conversion of Iran from Sunnism to Shiism
Some have argued that early Islamic scripture and law forbids forced conversion in theory,[14] In opposition to forced Islamization, verse of the Qur'an (2:256) is frequently cited, reading "let there be no compulsion in religion".[15][16][17][18][19] Muhammed and his followers never practice forced conversion of the Pagan Arabs during Muhammad's conquest of Arabia. None of the Quraish was forced to become Muslim, but Muhammads victory convinced some of his most principled opponents, such as Abu Sufyan, that the old religion had failed.[20][21][22]
However, forced conversions have occurred during Islamic history and rarely has it been official government policy.[14][23] Noted cases include the conversion of Samaritans to Islam at the hands of the rebel Ibn Firāsa,[24][25] conversions in the 12th century under the Almohad dynasty of North Africa and Andalusia, as well as in Persia under the Safavid dynasty where Sunnis were converted to Shi'ism[23] and Jews were converted to Islam.[26] A form of forced conversion became institutionalized during the Ottoman Empire in the practice of devşirme, a human levy in which Christian boys were seized and collected from their families (usually in the Balkans), enslaved, converted to Islam, and then trained for high ranking service to the sultan.[27]
There is dispute amongst scholars as to whether the famous Jewish philosopher Maimonides converted to Islam in order to freely escape from Almohad territory, and then reconverted back to Judaism in either the Levant or in Egypt.[28] Maimonides wrote a book on apostasy wherein he advocated accepting forced conversion rather than suffer martydom, and to then seek refuge afterward at a place where it was safe. The dispute also extended to the allegedly forced conversion of Sabbatai Zevi, an Ottoman Jew from Smyrna. In reality, at the beginning of 1666, the Ottoman Sultan in Constantinople ordered Sabbatai, who had many followers and had claimed to be the long-awaited Jewish messiah, to be imprisoned. When Sabbatai was later taken to Adrianople, the Sultan's physician, a former Jew, advised him to convert to Islam. The following day he converted before the Sultan, who happily rewarded Sabbatai by conferring the title (Mahmed) Effendi, and appointing him as his doorkeeper with a high salary. A number of Sabbatai's followers also went over to Islam and about 300 families converted and were known as dönmeh (converts).[29] The sultan's officials ordered Sabbatai to take an additional wife to demonstrate his conversion.
K. S. Lal, alleged in his book Growth of Muslim Population in Medieval India that between the years 1000 and 1500 the population of Hindus decreased by 80 million in the Indian Subcontinent due to forced conversion to Islam and widespread slaughter of Hindus who resisted conversion.[30]
Muhammad Ghori committed genocide against Hindus at Kol (modern Aligarh), Kalinjar and Varanasi. According to Hasan Nizami's Taj-ul-Maasir, 20000 Hindu prisoners were slaughtered and their heads offered to crows.[31][32] Hasan Nizami's Taj-ul-Maasir records that in Kol (Modern Aligarh), "those of the horizon who were wise and acute were converted to Islam, but those who stood by their ancestral faith were slain with the sword.[31][32]
Forced conversion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mughal ruler Aurangzeb cherished the ambition of converting India into a land of Islam. For this, he encouraged forced religious conversions and destroyed thousands of Hindu temples during his reign.[33][34]
During Tipu Sultan's invasion of Malabar in the late 18th century, he forcefully converted over 400,000 Hindus to Islam.[35][36][37] During the Moplah Riots of 1921 in Kerala, Muslim Mappilas forcibly converted thousands of Hindus to Islam[38] and killed all those who refused to apostatise.[39] During the Noakhali genocide of Hindus in 1946, several thousand Hindus were forcibly converted to Islam by Muslim mobs.[40][41]
[edit] Twenty-first century allegations