6 Dem congressmen/woman call for INSURRECTION against the trump administration

[g5000]

The law governing the military clearly prohibits those in the service from following orders that are unlawful.

That is almost word for word what the veterans in that video said.

Now you're a traitor, too. Just for saying that.

TrumpTardLogic™.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

The law governing the military clearly prohibits those in the service from following orders that are unlawful.

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And which law has President Trump ordered the military unlawfully to follow?







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[cnm]

except no illegal orders have been given at any time in this presidency. what they want is a mutiny of the troops against Trump and his administration.

I bet the dudes who are shooting up South American boats are pleased to hear they won't be Nuremberged, eh?

 

[0311]

Thet are both true statements. If soldiers do not follow orders, the military will not function effectively, but he is also charged with refusing to follow an illegal order, so there is no safe choice for a soldier.

However these considerations have no applications here. They call on soldiers not to follow illegal orders from President Trump and claim he has already given such illegal orders to soldiers, which is not true. The President never gives orders to the troobut only to the leadership and so the issue of legality would be decided long before the troops ever hear about it. That being the case, the only issue to be decided is whether these politicians are merely irresponsible political propagandists or are they seriously trying to incite rebellion in the military.

There is a very strict and very clear prohibition against opening fire against opening fire on unarmed civilians. That is clear violation U.C.M.J AND The U.S.M.C.M. It is a clearly against the law. It is an Unlawful Order. Nor can troops be Quartered In Civilian Housing (Unconstitutional), as is Unlawful Search and Seizure (Unconstitutional). Nor can a person be deprived of the to an Attorney or have an Attorney present during questioning (Unconstitution

An Unlawful is by law cannot be obeyed. Nor is a uniformed member the U.S. Military obliged to obey such an order. To do so would that member an accessory before and after the fact. Time served at U.S.C.C.B. (United State Correctional Custody Barracks Ft. Leavenworth, Kansas. Federal Time is hard time. No parole.

 

[cnm]

Name an unlawful order. Who gave it? When was it given? And if it was unlawful, then why wasn't it rejected by any of the top commanders in the chain of command that delivered it to the soldier in the field???

Hilarious. Pure outrage that the concept of unlawful orders exist.

 

[g5000]

Hilarious. Pure outrage that the concept of unlawful orders exist.

Oh, sure. I guess no one ever issues unlawful orders, and so teaching our troops to disobey them is pretty stupid, right?

TrumpTardLogic™.

 

[Lesh]

Name the last illegal order given to the military blocked and deemed too illegal to carry out by the troops.

Why?

 

[g5000]

Name the last illegal order given to the military blocked and deemed too illegal to carry out by the troops.

Peace Prize Nominee Donald J. Trump ordering troops to Portland, OR.

 

[toomuchtime_]

There is a very strict and very clear prohibition against opening fire against opening fire on unarmed civilians. That is clear violation U.C.M.J AND The U.S.M.C.M. It is a clearly against the law. It is an Unlawful Order. Nor can troops be Quartered In Civilian Housing (Unconstitutional), as is Unlawful Search and Seizure (Unconstitutional). Nor can a person be deprived of the to an Attorney or have an Attorney present during questioning (Unconstitution

An Unlawful is by law cannot be obeyed. Nor is a uniformed member the U.S. Military obliged to obey such an order. To do so would that member an accessory before and after the fact. Time served at U.S.C.C.B. (United State Correctional Custody Barracks Ft. Leavenworth, Kansas. Federal Time is hard time. No parole.

Irrelevant to this discussion which is about the false statements about troops considering whether Trump's orders are illegal or legal since the President does not give orders to the troops but only to the Minister of Defense or the chief of Staff, so all questions about the legality of the order would be settled long before the troops heard about it. The only question to be answered here is whether these Dem politicians are merely irresponsible political propagandists or trying to incite rebellion in the military, and the only way to settle this issue is to indict them for sedition and le a court decide.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Yet they pointed out no such illegal orders as examples, nor stated any when called out to cite specifics.

They're playing a ******* dangerous game, and they know it.

The insinuation is that every military member Chan decide that for himself or herself. Would that work with the men and women ordered to get a dangerous vaccine?

 

[Delldude]

Peace Prize Nominee Donald J. Trump ordering troops to Portland, OR.

This another one of your half baked bullshit claims?

PORTLAND, Ore. (KATU) — The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals on Wednesday granted the Trump administration’s request to keep the Oregon National Guard federalized, at least for now.

President Donald Trump initially federalized 200 National Guard troops to be deployed in Oregon in September to deal with ongoing protests at the Immigration and Customs Enforcement building in South Portland.

 

[RedrickTheCoat]

What illegal orders have been given?

What illegal orders?

Boat bombings. These are widely criticized by legal experts as unlawful under both U.S. and international law.. Military-law experts, international-law experts, and even UN officials have said those strikes don’t have any clear legal basis. Think about this logically, If the U.S. can bomb people simply because they’re suspected of smuggling drugs, then the definition of who can be targeted becomes quite broad. There is more to it that this too, but this is one aspect of why it's unlawful.

A federal judge already ruled that Trump’s deployment of the National Guard in LA was illegal because the Guard was being used for crowd control and traffic stops without the Insurrection Act. That’s literally the textbook definition of violating the Posse Comitatus Act. A court already said it was unlawful.

Trump has deployed the National Guard to multiple states against the will of the governers of those states. He's done this against any kind of evidence that they are needed. It's ridiculous.

Imagine, just imagine, if Obama was sending the national guard to multiple Republican states against the will of the Governer of that state. Against any kind of evidence that miltiary intervention is needed in that state....You guys gave them the free pass to do what they want.

 

[Lesh]

Trump has ordered boats to be blown up in international waters

The boats were no immediate threat to any vessels and were nowhere close enough to the US to land there without multiple refueling stops

The admin did not know who was on those boats nor what exactly they were carrying.

They don’t even know how many people they killed.

In at least one instance they had survivors attacked and killed

There was no legal judgement justifying these attacks

Were they legal? Under what law?

And both Nuremberg and My Lai are testament to the fact that illegal order can and are prosecuted

As well as the helicopter attacks on a wedding party in Iraq

 

[schmidlap]

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And which law has President Trump ordered the military unlawfully to follow?

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If you are aware of any, please let me know.

I never indicated that he had.

Neither had any of the public servants the blowhard is accusing of treason, as far as I know.

 

[toobfreak]

Neither had any of the public servants the blowhard is accusing of treason,

The Blowhard? Are we circling back talking about Joe Biden again?

 

[Leo123]

Boat bombings. These are widely criticized by legal experts as unlawful under both U.S. and international law.. Military-law experts, international-law experts, and even UN officials have said those strikes don’t have any clear legal basis. Think about this logically, If the U.S. can bomb people simply because they’re suspected of smuggling drugs, then the definition of who can be targeted becomes quite broad. There is more to it that this too, but this is one aspect of why it's unlawful.

A federal judge already ruled that Trump’s deployment of the National Guard in LA was illegal because the Guard was being used for crowd control and traffic stops without the Insurrection Act. That’s literally the textbook definition of violating the Posse Comitatus Act. A court already said it was unlawful.

Trump has deployed the National Guard to multiple states against the will of the governers of those states. He's done this against any kind of evidence that they are needed. It's ridiculous.

Imagine, just imagine, if Obama was sending the national guard to multiple Republican states against the will of the Governer of that state. Against any kind of evidence that miltiary intervention is needed in that state....You guys gave them the free pass to do what they want.

Trump is following the law and precedent. Take Obama, for instance,

"the 2011 Libya intervention. It involved neither a congressional authorization of the use of force, nor compliance with the 1973 War Powers Act, which requires at least congressional notification of troop commitments and affirmative permission after 60 days. Every president since the WPA’s enactment has claimed that it’s an unconstitutional limit on inherent executive authority over military power. Obama instead claimed that hundreds of missile strikes and dozens of air missions didn’t trigger the WPA because they only constituted “kinetic military action” rather than war." That's just the beginning, more here:

https://www.cato.org/commentary/top-10-ways-obama-violated-constitution-during-presidency#

The National Guard was deployed to States that refused to give up their illegal aliens and stood by while ICE agents were accosted. The NG was sent in to protect them against already violent rioters and crowd control was part of it. We have seen Federal agents and vehicles attacked by violent crowds. There is plenty of evidence they were needed.

Your screed reads like a Democrat, TDS, Marxist manifesto. It's full of non-truths and half-truths designed to promote a political position.

 

[Leo123]

There is a very strict and very clear prohibition against opening fire against opening fire on unarmed civilians. That is clear violation U.C.M.J AND The U.S.M.C.M. It is a clearly against the law. It is an Unlawful Order. Nor can troops be Quartered In Civilian Housing (Unconstitutional), as is Unlawful Search and Seizure (Unconstitutional). Nor can a person be deprived of the to an Attorney or have an Attorney present during questioning (Unconstitution

An Unlawful is by law cannot be obeyed. Nor is a uniformed member the U.S. Military obliged to obey such an order. To do so would that member an accessory before and after the fact. Time served at U.S.C.C.B. (United State Correctional Custody Barracks Ft. Leavenworth, Kansas. Federal Time is hard time. No parole.

Apparently you were sleeping during Biden:

Biden-Harris admin approves military use of lethal force on US citizens​

"The Department of Defense (DOD) is facing significant backlash after releasing DOD directive 5240.01, which took effect on September 27. The Biden-Harris administration’s latest DoD directive has been accused of authorizing the U.S. military to use lethal force against American citizens."

Videos/Pic: Biden-Harris admin approves military use of lethal force on US citizens: Report

The Biden-Harris admin's latest DoD directive is accused of authorizing the U.S. military to use lethal force against American citizens.

americanmilitarynews.com

 

[Delldude]

Trump has ordered boats to be blown up in international waters

The boats were no immediate threat to any vessels and were nowhere close enough to the US to land there without multiple refueling stops

The admin did not know who was on those boats nor what exactly they were carrying.

They don’t even know how many people they killed.

In at least one instance they had survivors attacked and killed

There was no legal judgement justifying these attacks

Were they legal? Under what law?

And both Nuremberg and My Lai are testament to the fact that illegal order can and are prosecuted

As well as the helicopter attacks on a wedding party in Iraq

If they were illegal, dems would make more noise than releasing the Epstein Files.

Take it to the bank.

 

[Leo123]

Irrelevant to this discussion which is about the false statements about troops considering whether Trump's orders are illegal or legal since the President does not give orders to the troops but only to the Minister of Defense or the chief of Staff, so all questions about the legality of the order would be settled long before the troops heard about it. The only question to be answered here is whether these Dem politicians are merely irresponsible political propagandists or trying to incite rebellion in the military, and the only way to settle this issue is to indict them for sedition and le a court decide.

They are traitors and should be arrested, convicted and sentenced.

 

[g5000]

After six congressmen and women posted a video urging the military not to follow illegal orders, Donald Trump said they deserve to die.

A debate enaued in which Republicans officials and Republicans in message boards claim illegal orders must be followed, while Democrats say they must not be followed.


Conclusion: in this is debate, Democrats are correct. Donald Trump and Republicans are incorrect. Thanks.


Citation

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title10-section892&num=0&edition=prelim

Yeah, I've quoted Article 92 several times.

It does not penetrate.

Dear Leader Bone Spur said the veterans are traitors, the cult bleevs it, that settles it.

Hive mind.

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