5th Circuit strikes down ATF bump stock ban.

[Blaster]

Since you like these things maybe you can say what they are good for other than murdering a bunch of people.

Four people were stabbed to death in Idaho. We need to get rid of hunting knives.

 

[Orangecat]

Just wondering why anyone thought this is something people ought to have. What's the argument.

It makes no difference whether they "ought" to have them or not. That's an opinion and should not be codified into law. "Shall not infringe".

 

[westwall]

People are different. I don't get a thrill out of shooting anymore. Why this is is hard to say. Nothing to do with politics or anything like that.

Ok, there are tens of millions who do. YOUR choices, and opinions don't govern THEM.

 

[occupied]

It makes no difference whether they "ought" to have them or not. That's an opinion and should not be codified into law. "Shall not infringe".

Just trying to find an argument where having these things is worth the body count. Most nutters at least give it a try but these things are just too retarded.

 

[Orangecat]

Just trying to find an argument where having these things is worth the body count.

You present a false premise when you equate the right to own a bump-stock with body counts. Never argue from a base of emotion.

 

[westwall]

Just trying to find an argument where having these things is worth the body count. Most nutters at least give it a try but these things are just too retarded.

They prevent deaths. Anyone with a brain knows that if the asshole in Vegas had just shot semi auto he would have killed waaaay more than 100. By using the bump stock he actually saved lives.

 

[occupied]

You present a false premise when you equate the right to own a bump-stock with body counts. Never argue from a base of emotion.

The gun argument is all emotion.

 

[occupied]

They prevent deaths. Anyone with a brain knows that if the asshole in Vegas had just shot semi auto he would have killed waaaay more than 100. By using the bump stock he actually saved lives.

Well at least someone made the attempt.

 

[westwall]

The gun argument is all emotion.

The anti gun argument certainly is.

Not the pro gun.

 

[westwall]

Well at least someone made the attempt.

There are your emotions taking over.

 

[jackflash]

Of course a fringe type like yourself would want autofire weapons no matter what damage it causes. After all you already refuse to see the connection between permissive gun laws and gun crime.

I never owned one but the ole "Chicago Piano" with that 100 round capacity magazine is the way to go in my opinion. It would be difficult to holster under my left armpit for concealed carry but if I owned one I would find a way! Thought it would make your day!

Thompson submachine gun - Wikipedia

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[C_Clayton_Jones]

The court banned it because it wasn't a law, but just an administrative order by the ATF.

If Sleepy Joe wants it, he should ask Congress to pass a LEGAL ban on it that he can actually sign.

He can negotiate with Speaker McCarthy, there is plenty he can give up for this if he thinks its important.

It was Treasonous Trump who banned them.

 

[occupied]

The anti gun argument certainly is.

Not the pro gun.

And yet the angriest most fearful people in American politics are gun nutters. If you weren't so afraid you would be able to think about the issue a little more rationally.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

They are only good for spraying rounds in an indiscriminate fashion. I'd like someone to say why this was a legal battle worth having.

it’s not.

But this is about the reprehensible right’s unwarranted, wrongheaded opposition to all and any firearm regulatory measures.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

And drunk drivers still kill people. So, ban alcohol is the extent of your argument.

And as usual the dishonest right starts fearmongering and lying about ‘banning’ guns.

 

[Orangecat]

The gun argument is all emotion.

What gun argument?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It’s curious. The Appeals Court overturned a Trump ordered administrative action. And somehow the thread is full of nothing but Democrats are awful.

So Trump was a Democrat on the day he ordered the ATF to ban Bump Stocks?

It is so hard to keep track of the insanity.

At least conservatives are consistent in their dishonesty, hypocrisy, and insanity.

 

[occupied]

And as usual the dishonest right starts fearmongering and lying about ‘banning’ guns.

Pretty sure they actually believe their guns are in peril. Despite their tough talk these people live in a kind of constant fear that we more rational people will never know.

 

[2aguy]

Just trying to find an argument where having these things is worth the body count. Most nutters at least give it a try but these things are just too retarded.

Are you actually willing to look at the body count?

Really?

In the U.S. gun murder is about 10,000 a year.....the vast majority of the victims are criminals murdered by other criminals, both engaging in the criminal life style.

In our entire 246 year history that is about 2,460,000

In Europe, between 1939-1945, 6 years, the socialists murdered 15 million innocent men, women and children....not war dead, innocent people rounded up and murdered in forests and death camps.

Russia....25 million murdered

China, over 70 million....

Meanwhile, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies, murders, beatings, stabbings, kidnappings and even mass public shootings......according to the Centers for Disease Control......

That comes out to about 176,000 lives saved by civilians with guns....

You don't care about the numbers....you simply want to ban guns for normal people.

 

[2aguy]

And yet the angriest most fearful people in American politics are gun nutters. If you weren't so afraid you would be able to think about the issue a little more rationally.

You talk about being rational?

There are over 600 million guns in the U.S......over 22 million people can legally carry guns in public for self defense.........

Americans use those legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop violent crimes.

You want to ban those guns for normal gun owners who don't use their guns for any crime because criminals use them for crime.

You are not the rational one.