57000 americans died in vietnam so jimmy carter could pardon the draft dodgers

[Picaro]

No. The south fell because it was a hilariously corrupt puppet state with zero stability and zero will to fight. Do you have any idea how many governments they went through? The Soviets didn't start having serious financial problems until their defense spending hikes in the 80s. Nevermind the fact that none of that shit was the problem of those 57,000 people. They died terrible deaths for no real good reason.

Rubbish. You just parrot propaganda invented to make pussies feel better.

The Soviets didn't start having serious financial problems until their defense spending hikes in the 80s

Clear evidence you don't know squat.

1973 Soviet economic reform - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In fact, they became dependent on the U.S. even for wheat, along with some refined petroleum products and other imports.

1973 United States–Soviet Union wheat deal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Soviet negotiators worked out a deal to buy grain on credit, but quickly exceeded their credit limit. American negotiators did not realize that both the Soviets and the world grain market had suffered shortfalls, and thus subsidized the purchase, leading it to be dubbed the "Great Grain Robbery". The strategy backfired and intensified the crisis: global food prices rose at least 30 percent, and grain stockpiles were decimated.

Idiot right wing Republicans, stepping on their dicks, as always, feeding welfare to Big Ag.

The Brezhnev Doctrine collapsed miserably.

They tried a comeback in the 1980's and that went nowhere. they never recovered from the Brezhnev bust and the U.S.'s containment strategies, which cost far fewer lives than your current idiot isolationist stupidity has.

 

[ZestolPastilevsky]

Rubbish. You just parrot propaganda invented to make pussies feel better.




Clear evidence you don't know squat.

1973 Soviet economic reform - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In fact, they became dependent on the U.S. even for wheat, along with refined petroleum products and other imports.

1973 United States–Soviet Union wheat deal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They tried a comeback in the 1980's and that went nowhere. they never recovered from the Brezhnev bust and the U.S.'s containment strategies, which cost far fewer lives than your current idiot isolationist stupidity has.

The real pussies are the ones who send other people to die. You want war so bad, you go fight it. There's nothing in it for me. Communism in Asia isn't my fucking problem. If you're making deals to buy products...then it means you can afford to buy things. The whole thing with bankruptcy is that it means you can no longer afford to buy stuff, and why wouldn't they be able to? Because they were spending too much on their army in the 80s. The idea that they collapsed from supporting Vietnam, almost 20 years after the fact, seems a hell of a lot less plausible than them overspending in the 80s and caving at the start of the 90s.

 

[Picaro]

The real pussies are the ones who send other people to die. You want war so bad, you go fight it. There's nothing in it for me. Communism in Asia isn't my fucking problem. If you're making deals to buy products...then it means you can afford to buy things. The whole thing with bankruptcy is that it means you can no longer afford to buy stuff, and why wouldn't they be able to? Because they were spending too much on their army in the 80s. The idea that they collapsed from supporting Vietnam, almost 20 years after the fact, seems a hell of a lot less plausible than them overspending in the 80s and caving at the start of the 90s.

Go fuck yourself, pussy. You have no idea where anybody went, and you wouldn't do shit to defend anybody's freedom, and have all kinds of idiot Burb Brat excuses for being a chickenshit bed wetter.

 

[Picaro]

The idea that they collapsed from supporting Vietnam, almost 20 years after the fact, seems a hell of a lot less plausible than them overspending in the 80s and caving at the start of the 90s.

Like I said, you're just some pussy bedwetter who doesn't know shit and just parrots whatever makes pussies feel better about being pussies.It's your ilk who make sure those soldiers die for nothing, and you're proud of it, like all scumbags are.

 

[ZestolPastilevsky]

Go fuck yourself, pussy. You have no idea where anybody went, and you wouldn't do shit to defend anybody's freedom, and have all kinds of idiot Burb Brat excuses for being a chickenshit bed wetter.

Like I said, you're just some pussy bedwetter who doesn't know shit and just parrots whatever makes pussies feel better about being pussies.

Ooh, look at you, double replying; getting all hot and bothered. Why don't you go waddle over to the fridge for another can of carbonated corn syrup to cool off? Or, shit, maybe send someone else's kid to do that for you as well, huh?

 

[Picaro]

Ooh, look at you, double replying; getting all hot and bothered. Why don't you go waddle over to the fridge for another can of carbonated corn syrup to cool off? Or, shit, maybe send someone else's kid to do that for you as well, huh?

We need to strap you and your peers to the front of tanks and let you lead the Group Hug brigades into the war zones your heroes create.

 

[ZestolPastilevsky]

We need to strap you and your peers to the front of tanks and let you lead the Group Hug brigades into the war zones your heroes create.

There you go again, talking about sending someone else into the war zone. Then again, I guess they don't make straps in your size, huh?

 

[Picaro]

There you go again, talking about sending someone else into the war zone. Then again, I guess they don't make straps in your size, huh?

Yes, you know you got proven to be a fucking know nothing moron and have nothing.

 

[ZestolPastilevsky]

Yes, you know you got proven to be a fucking know nothing moron and have nothing.

This is what you sound like right now. Go be a fat loser living vicariously through others somewhere else.

 

[Picaro]

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This is what you sound like right now. Go be a fat loser living vicariously through others somewhere else.

lol says the loser who got itself bitch slapped and pissed on.

 

[ZestolPastilevsky]

lol says the loser who got itself bitch slapped and pissed on.

That would require you to get out of your seat, which sure as shit will never happen.

 

[Delldude]

Those who advocated for the war and misrepresented the prospects deserved to be prosecuted

Can you find any war that that didn't happen?

 

[JoeB131]

Vietnam was Johnson's idea of a fun time. It was started under false pretenses for highly dubious reasons.

To understand LBJ's Vietnam War you have to study the Kennedy assassination real hard. That war wasn't about communism, it was about control of the Golden Triangle.

Back before lefties lost their brains, they knew all about this stuff. Many of them would have died for YOU, but not LBJ. Can't say's I blame em.

After Nixon got in and before Gerald Ford pardoned him (btw both were nefarious figures in the JFK story), he started the DEA. Guess who became DEA agents? All the CIA people that were in Vietnam. Who otherwise would have been out of a job.

Study how the cartels got started. It goes back almost TO THE DAY of the inception of the DEA.

This is one of the most sordid stories in American history. The thread runs from the JFK assassination through both Johnson and Nixon, through Iran Contra and all the way to present day fentanyl.

Wow, it sounds like you are the one who needed to be medicated.

Next you'll be telling me the phone company killed JFK.

 

[d0gbreath]

I

t wasn't about 'dick waving', it was about shutting down Soviet and Red Chinese imperialism and supporting allies. And it worked.

Then why is Vietnam (the whole nation) Communist today?

 

[rightwinger]

Then why is Vietnam (the whole nation) Communist today?

Vietnam is better off Communist than under Colonial France

 

[Delldude]

Vietnam is better off Communist than under Colonial France

VC took over, one of the first things they did was shoot all the media.