51% America Makes Less Than $30K

[PaintMyHouse]

There is absolutely no proof or evidence of that. It is now and always has been the immigrants that are most willing to take risks to start new small businesses in America.

One reason legal immigration is so important is that the U.S. population growth is projected to fall almost in half over the next three decades, with the growth in the working-age population falling even further. Without a growing younger population, strong economic growth is just not going to happen in US.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/de...mmigration_reform_from_the_erp_2013_final.pdf

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

Because there are only so many good business ideas. If an immigrant starts the business what happens to the citizen who would have otherwise put a gas station there? Our economy can't handle immigrants right now.

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in a secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation to start over again and take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

If new businesses are the problem, then foreigners are not the solution. Let government offer more incentives for Americans to open up these businesses and problem solved.

Not enough children being born? Same solution. It's much cheaper to give financial incentives to Americans who would love to have a larger family than to open up our borders to everybody else.

We don't need to give birth to more people. We have more than we can care for as it is eh?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

Because there are only so many good business ideas. If an immigrant starts the business what happens to the citizen who would have otherwise put a gas station there? Our economy can't handle immigrants right now.

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in a secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation to start over again and take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

If new businesses are the problem, then foreigners are not the solution. Let government offer more incentives for Americans to open up these businesses and problem solved.

Not enough children being born? Same solution. It's much cheaper to give financial incentives to Americans who would love to have a larger family than to open up our borders to everybody else.

We don't need to give birth to more people. We have more than we can care for as it is eh?

Agreed, but that's not my argument, that's his. I think we have plenty of people and not enough of them working. Close down the borders.

 

[bripat9643]

There is absolutely no proof or evidence of that. It is now and always has been the immigrants that are most willing to take risks to start new small businesses in America.

One reason legal immigration is so important is that the U.S. population growth is projected to fall almost in half over the next three decades, with the growth in the working-age population falling even further. Without a growing younger population, strong economic growth is just not going to happen in US.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/de...mmigration_reform_from_the_erp_2013_final.pdf

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

Because there are only so many good business ideas. If an immigrant starts the business what happens to the citizen who would have otherwise put a gas station there? Our economy can't handle immigrants right now.

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in a secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation to start over again and take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

If new businesses are the problem, then foreigners are not the solution. Let government offer more incentives for Americans to open up these businesses and problem solved.

Not enough children being born? Same solution. It's much cheaper to give financial incentives to Americans who would love to have a larger family than to open up our borders to everybody else.

Even if Americans don't want to have more children, that doesn't give the government the green light to import a bunch of them from Mexico or India.

 

[bripat9643]

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

Because there are only so many good business ideas. If an immigrant starts the business what happens to the citizen who would have otherwise put a gas station there? Our economy can't handle immigrants right now.

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in a secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation to start over again and take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

If new businesses are the problem, then foreigners are not the solution. Let government offer more incentives for Americans to open up these businesses and problem solved.

Not enough children being born? Same solution. It's much cheaper to give financial incentives to Americans who would love to have a larger family than to open up our borders to everybody else.

We don't need to give birth to more people. We have more than we can care for as it is eh?

Then why would we want to import more of them?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

Because there are only so many good business ideas. If an immigrant starts the business what happens to the citizen who would have otherwise put a gas station there? Our economy can't handle immigrants right now.

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in a secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation to start over again and take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

If new businesses are the problem, then foreigners are not the solution. Let government offer more incentives for Americans to open up these businesses and problem solved.

Not enough children being born? Same solution. It's much cheaper to give financial incentives to Americans who would love to have a larger family than to open up our borders to everybody else.

We don't need to give birth to more people. We have more than we can care for as it is eh?

Then why would we want to import more of them?

The world, not the US. We could host a whole lot more babies here.

 

[ScienceRocks]

And we change this by cutting education and investment in r&d. Repubicans are truly brain dead.

 

[bripat9643]

Because there are only so many good business ideas. If an immigrant starts the business what happens to the citizen who would have otherwise put a gas station there? Our economy can't handle immigrants right now.

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in a secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation to start over again and take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

If new businesses are the problem, then foreigners are not the solution. Let government offer more incentives for Americans to open up these businesses and problem solved.

Not enough children being born? Same solution. It's much cheaper to give financial incentives to Americans who would love to have a larger family than to open up our borders to everybody else.

We don't need to give birth to more people. We have more than we can care for as it is eh?

Then why would we want to import more of them?

The world, not the US. We could host a whole lot more babies here.

Why should we?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in a secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation to start over again and take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

If new businesses are the problem, then foreigners are not the solution. Let government offer more incentives for Americans to open up these businesses and problem solved.

Not enough children being born? Same solution. It's much cheaper to give financial incentives to Americans who would love to have a larger family than to open up our borders to everybody else.

We don't need to give birth to more people. We have more than we can care for as it is eh?

Then why would we want to import more of them?

The world, not the US. We could host a whole lot more babies here.

Why should we?

It would grow the economy, among other things.

 

[bripat9643]

If new businesses are the problem, then foreigners are not the solution. Let government offer more incentives for Americans to open up these businesses and problem solved.

Not enough children being born? Same solution. It's much cheaper to give financial incentives to Americans who would love to have a larger family than to open up our borders to everybody else.

We don't need to give birth to more people. We have more than we can care for as it is eh?

Then why would we want to import more of them?

The world, not the US. We could host a whole lot more babies here.

Why should we?

It would grow the economy, among other things.

What's the point of "growing the economy" if immigrants are the only ones who stand to benefit?

 

[Flopper]

There is absolutely no proof or evidence of that. It is now and always has been the immigrants that are most willing to take risks to start new small businesses in America.

One reason legal immigration is so important is that the U.S. population growth is projected to fall almost in half over the next three decades, with the growth in the working-age population falling even further. Without a growing younger population, strong economic growth is just not going to happen in US.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/de...mmigration_reform_from_the_erp_2013_final.pdf

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

That is one of the reasons why everyone should reject socialism, socialism hates small business, therefore small business cannot function under a socialist government as seen the way we are heading.

Embrace the suck

Socialism is not communism. There are plenty of small business in socialist countries through out Europe, In Denmark, 70% of businesses have less 50 employees.

The goal socialism is communism.
-Vladimir Lenin-
One cannot exist without the other, history has proven this to be so without fail. By the way those European countries and their current form of government have not been around long enough to see what really happens long term. The bottom is going to fall out from underneath the whole euro zone may not be today or tomorrow but, they are all living on borrowed time. Their fiscal gap is far too large, to hold for very long.

In a way, communism is an extreme form of socialism. Many countries have dominant socialist political parties but very few are truly communist. In fact, most countries - including staunch capitalist bastions like the U.S. and U.K. - have government programs that borrow from socialist principles. "Socialism" is sometimes used interchangeably with "communism" but the two philosophies have stark differences. Most notably, while communism is a political system, socialism is primarily an economic system that can exist in various forms under a wide range of political systems. Today, with only few exception, all nations are a mix of socialism and capitalism.

 

[Rustic]

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

That is one of the reasons why everyone should reject socialism, socialism hates small business, therefore small business cannot function under a socialist government as seen the way we are heading.

Embrace the suck

Socialism is not communism. There are plenty of small business in socialist countries through out Europe, In Denmark, 70% of businesses have less 50 employees.

The goal socialism is communism.
-Vladimir Lenin-
One cannot exist without the other, history has proven this to be so without fail. By the way those European countries and their current form of government have not been around long enough to see what really happens long term. The bottom is going to fall out from underneath the whole euro zone may not be today or tomorrow but, they are all living on borrowed time. Their fiscal gap is far too large, to hold for very long.

In a way, communism is an extreme form of socialism. Many countries have dominant socialist political parties but very few are truly communist. In fact, most countries - including staunch capitalist bastions like the U.S. and U.K. - have government programs that borrow from socialist principles. "Socialism" is sometimes used interchangeably with "communism" but the two philosophies have stark differences. Most notably, while communism is a political system, socialism is primarily an economic system that can exist in various forms under a wide range of political systems. Today, with only few exception, all nations are a mix of socialism and capitalism.

Both Subduing the individual in all cases.

 

[Flopper]

There is absolutely no proof or evidence of that. It is now and always has been the immigrants that are most willing to take risks to start new small businesses in America.

One reason legal immigration is so important is that the U.S. population growth is projected to fall almost in half over the next three decades, with the growth in the working-age population falling even further. Without a growing younger population, strong economic growth is just not going to happen in US.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/de...mmigration_reform_from_the_erp_2013_final.pdf

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

Because there are only so many good business ideas. If an immigrant starts the business what happens to the citizen who would have otherwise put a gas station there? Our economy can't handle immigrants right now.

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in a secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation to start over again and take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

If new businesses are the problem, then foreigners are not the solution. Let government offer more incentives for Americans to open up these businesses and problem solved.

Not enough children being born? Same solution. It's much cheaper to give financial incentives to Americans who would love to have a larger family than to open up our borders to everybody else.

There's no reason to exclude legal immigrants, half of which will become citizens from incentives to start new businesses. New businesses create jobs. It doesn't matter who opened the business.

I think what is missing from this conversation is immigrants bring different skills, ideas, and cultures we need in America. This country has succeeded and prospered not because of the ingenuity of its government or it's social programs but because of the vigor of its society. It has thrived because it has kept itself open to the world, to goods and services, to ideas and inventions, and, above all to peoples and cultures.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

Because there are only so many good business ideas. If an immigrant starts the business what happens to the citizen who would have otherwise put a gas station there? Our economy can't handle immigrants right now.

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in a secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation to start over again and take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

If new businesses are the problem, then foreigners are not the solution. Let government offer more incentives for Americans to open up these businesses and problem solved.

Not enough children being born? Same solution. It's much cheaper to give financial incentives to Americans who would love to have a larger family than to open up our borders to everybody else.

There's no reason to exclude legal immigrants, half of which will become citizens from incentives to start new businesses. New businesses create jobs. It doesn't matter who opened the business.

I think what is missing from this conversation is immigrants bring different skills, ideas, and cultures we need in America. This country has succeeded and prospered not because of the ingenuity of its government or it's social programs but because of the vigor of its society. It has thrived because it has kept itself open to the world, to goods and services, to ideas and inventions, and, above all to peoples and cultures.

Oh yes, they bring culture with them. In fact, they've brought so much culture that I now have to press "1" on my phone to continue a business conversation in our own language. I have to tell the poll worker which language I would like a ballot in.

Is their "culture" working for lower wages than Americans? It sure seems that way. Is their culture insisting we change our laws just for them because they don't like the way we do things in this country? What other "culture" would allow an American to do the same in their country?

Their "culture" allowed two truck drivers to sue their company because they refused to deliver beer in the company truck and got fired.

If this is the culture you're speaking of, I want nothing to do with it, and I'm sure I speak for a lot of Americans in this country.

 

[Flopper]

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

Because there are only so many good business ideas. If an immigrant starts the business what happens to the citizen who would have otherwise put a gas station there? Our economy can't handle immigrants right now.

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in a secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation to start over again and take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

If new businesses are the problem, then foreigners are not the solution. Let government offer more incentives for Americans to open up these businesses and problem solved.

Not enough children being born? Same solution. It's much cheaper to give financial incentives to Americans who would love to have a larger family than to open up our borders to everybody else.

We don't need to give birth to more people. We have more than we can care for as it is eh?

Agreed, but that's not my argument, that's his. I think we have plenty of people and not enough of them working. Close down the borders.

A shrinking population does not bode well for the US economy. Our's is a consumer based economy. Lower population growth means less US consumption. Without a growing population we must look to increasing exports for economic growth. Isolationist policies such as zero immigration policies make it all the more difficult for the US to participate in the global economy.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Because there are only so many good business ideas. If an immigrant starts the business what happens to the citizen who would have otherwise put a gas station there? Our economy can't handle immigrants right now.

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in a secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation to start over again and take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

If new businesses are the problem, then foreigners are not the solution. Let government offer more incentives for Americans to open up these businesses and problem solved.

Not enough children being born? Same solution. It's much cheaper to give financial incentives to Americans who would love to have a larger family than to open up our borders to everybody else.

We don't need to give birth to more people. We have more than we can care for as it is eh?

Agreed, but that's not my argument, that's his. I think we have plenty of people and not enough of them working. Close down the borders.

A shrinking population does not bode well for the US economy. Our's is a consumer based economy. Lower population growth means less US consumption. Without a growing population we must look to increasing exports for economic growth. Isolationist policies such as zero immigration policies make it all the more difficult for the US to participate in the global economy.

It would be much more beneficial if we grew our country on our own with no foreigners.

Right now the median income is actually lower than when Obama took office. I see it in my line of work with all these foreigners working for nothing and can't even do the job. I have friends in Texas that tell me these Mexicans get together and stuff ten people in a two bedroom apartment or house. Of course they can work for nothing.

Well I don't want to see Americans living like that. How many billions of American dollars do you suppose are crossing the Mexican border every year? Is that good for the economy too?

And what is the cost to Americans to provide healthcare and prison to the lawbreakers?

Report: Illegals Committed 600,000 Crimes in Texas in 6 Yrs
Nearly 3,000 homicides, 8,000 sexual assaults
7.23.2015
News
Bradford Thomas

Report: Illegals Committed 600,000 Crimes in Texas in 6 Yrs
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ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ACCOUNTED FOR NEARLY 37 PERCENT OF FEDERAL SENTENCES IN FY 2014

Illegal Immigrants Accounted for Nearly 37 Percent of Federal Sentences in FY 2014 - Breitbart

 

[Flopper]

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

Because there are only so many good business ideas. If an immigrant starts the business what happens to the citizen who would have otherwise put a gas station there? Our economy can't handle immigrants right now.

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in a secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation to start over again and take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

If new businesses are the problem, then foreigners are not the solution. Let government offer more incentives for Americans to open up these businesses and problem solved.

Not enough children being born? Same solution. It's much cheaper to give financial incentives to Americans who would love to have a larger family than to open up our borders to everybody else.

There's no reason to exclude legal immigrants, half of which will become citizens from incentives to start new businesses. New businesses create jobs. It doesn't matter who opened the business.

I think what is missing from this conversation is immigrants bring different skills, ideas, and cultures we need in America. This country has succeeded and prospered not because of the ingenuity of its government or it's social programs but because of the vigor of its society. It has thrived because it has kept itself open to the world, to goods and services, to ideas and inventions, and, above all to peoples and cultures.

Oh yes, they bring culture with them. In fact, they've brought so much culture that I now have to press "1" on my phone to continue a business conversation in our own language. I have to tell the poll worker which language I would like a ballot in.

Is their "culture" working for lower wages than Americans? It sure seems that way. Is their culture insisting we change our laws just for them because they don't like the way we do things in this country? What other "culture" would allow an American to do the same in their country?

Their "culture" allowed two truck drivers to sue their company because they refused to deliver beer in the company truck and got fired.

If this is the culture you're speaking of, I want nothing to do with it, and I'm sure I speak for a lot of Americans in this country.

Actually most most businesses you dial assume you speech English. Many now allow you to select another language, usually Spanish. And this is why we stop legal immigration to the US?

You seem to also think all legal immigrants work in low paying jobs like most illegals. However, the fact is 30% of legal immigrants to the US, have bachelors degrees or higher. Over half the legal immigrants are in high skilled jobs, management, sales, or office workers. These immigrants are almost all young, well educated, and multilingual. If we are to compete in the global economy which is critical to economic growth in the US, these are exactly the people we need in the US.

 

[Flopper]

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in a secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation to start over again and take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

If new businesses are the problem, then foreigners are not the solution. Let government offer more incentives for Americans to open up these businesses and problem solved.

Not enough children being born? Same solution. It's much cheaper to give financial incentives to Americans who would love to have a larger family than to open up our borders to everybody else.

We don't need to give birth to more people. We have more than we can care for as it is eh?

Agreed, but that's not my argument, that's his. I think we have plenty of people and not enough of them working. Close down the borders.

A shrinking population does not bode well for the US economy. Our's is a consumer based economy. Lower population growth means less US consumption. Without a growing population we must look to increasing exports for economic growth. Isolationist policies such as zero immigration policies make it all the more difficult for the US to participate in the global economy.

It would be much more beneficial if we grew our country on our own with no foreigners.

Right now the median income is actually lower than when Obama took office. I see it in my line of work with all these foreigners working for nothing and can't even do the job. I have friends in Texas that tell me these Mexicans get together and stuff ten people in a two bedroom apartment or house. Of course they can work for nothing.

Well I don't want to see Americans living like that. How many billions of American dollars do you suppose are crossing the Mexican border every year? Is that good for the economy too?

And what is the cost to Americans to provide healthcare and prison to the lawbreakers?

Report: Illegals Committed 600,000 Crimes in Texas in 6 Yrs
Nearly 3,000 homicides, 8,000 sexual assaults
7.23.2015
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Bradford Thomas

Report: Illegals Committed 600,000 Crimes in Texas in 6 Yrs
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ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ACCOUNTED FOR NEARLY 37 PERCENT OF FEDERAL SENTENCES IN FY 2014

Illegal Immigrants Accounted for Nearly 37 Percent of Federal Sentences in FY 2014 - Breitbart

The fact is we have never grown our economy without the help of immigrants. We are almost all 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th generation immigrants. Suggesting we isolate ourselves from the rest of the world at a time when our future depends on our success in the global economy is lunacy.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Because there are only so many good business ideas. If an immigrant starts the business what happens to the citizen who would have otherwise put a gas station there? Our economy can't handle immigrants right now.

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in a secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation to start over again and take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

If new businesses are the problem, then foreigners are not the solution. Let government offer more incentives for Americans to open up these businesses and problem solved.

Not enough children being born? Same solution. It's much cheaper to give financial incentives to Americans who would love to have a larger family than to open up our borders to everybody else.

There's no reason to exclude legal immigrants, half of which will become citizens from incentives to start new businesses. New businesses create jobs. It doesn't matter who opened the business.

I think what is missing from this conversation is immigrants bring different skills, ideas, and cultures we need in America. This country has succeeded and prospered not because of the ingenuity of its government or it's social programs but because of the vigor of its society. It has thrived because it has kept itself open to the world, to goods and services, to ideas and inventions, and, above all to peoples and cultures.

Oh yes, they bring culture with them. In fact, they've brought so much culture that I now have to press "1" on my phone to continue a business conversation in our own language. I have to tell the poll worker which language I would like a ballot in.

Is their "culture" working for lower wages than Americans? It sure seems that way. Is their culture insisting we change our laws just for them because they don't like the way we do things in this country? What other "culture" would allow an American to do the same in their country?

Their "culture" allowed two truck drivers to sue their company because they refused to deliver beer in the company truck and got fired.

If this is the culture you're speaking of, I want nothing to do with it, and I'm sure I speak for a lot of Americans in this country.

Actually most most businesses you dial assume you speech English. Many now allow you to select another language, usually Spanish. And this is why we stop legal immigration to the US?

You seem to also think all legal immigrants work in low paying jobs like most illegals. However, the fact is 30% of legal immigrants to the US, have bachelors degrees or higher. Over half the legal immigrants are in high skilled jobs, management, sales, or office workers. These immigrants are almost all young, well educated, and multilingual. If we are to compete in the global economy which is critical to economic growth in the US, these are exactly the people we need in the US.

Well I can't speak for certainty about fields of work I'm not in, however I will reiterate the concerns of white collar workers which is the same complaint I have: they work for nothing.

Now at Walt Disney, they are forcing their American workers to train foreigners to do their jobs because the foreigners are going to replace them. Talk about your mother telling you to go outside and fetch a stick for her to beat you with.

And from what I understand, this is happening all over the tech world and other fields of work that require higher education. I mean, it's bad enough the expense of getting such an education, and now they are not going to make enough money to recoup that investment?

See, you want to tell me about all the good in foreign workers, and I'm telling you all the bad. Would I like to restrict foreign workers because they are turning our country into a bilingual nation? You bet I do. It's one thing to go through all the work to learn another language because it benefits you somehow, but it's quite another when it's slowly becoming a requirement to live in this country. We were fine with English and it should stay that way.

 

[Flopper]

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in a secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation to start over again and take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

If new businesses are the problem, then foreigners are not the solution. Let government offer more incentives for Americans to open up these businesses and problem solved.

Not enough children being born? Same solution. It's much cheaper to give financial incentives to Americans who would love to have a larger family than to open up our borders to everybody else.

There's no reason to exclude legal immigrants, half of which will become citizens from incentives to start new businesses. New businesses create jobs. It doesn't matter who opened the business.

I think what is missing from this conversation is immigrants bring different skills, ideas, and cultures we need in America. This country has succeeded and prospered not because of the ingenuity of its government or it's social programs but because of the vigor of its society. It has thrived because it has kept itself open to the world, to goods and services, to ideas and inventions, and, above all to peoples and cultures.

Oh yes, they bring culture with them. In fact, they've brought so much culture that I now have to press "1" on my phone to continue a business conversation in our own language. I have to tell the poll worker which language I would like a ballot in.

Is their "culture" working for lower wages than Americans? It sure seems that way. Is their culture insisting we change our laws just for them because they don't like the way we do things in this country? What other "culture" would allow an American to do the same in their country?

Their "culture" allowed two truck drivers to sue their company because they refused to deliver beer in the company truck and got fired.

If this is the culture you're speaking of, I want nothing to do with it, and I'm sure I speak for a lot of Americans in this country.

Actually most most businesses you dial assume you speech English. Many now allow you to select another language, usually Spanish. And this is why we stop legal immigration to the US?

You seem to also think all legal immigrants work in low paying jobs like most illegals. However, the fact is 30% of legal immigrants to the US, have bachelors degrees or higher. Over half the legal immigrants are in high skilled jobs, management, sales, or office workers. These immigrants are almost all young, well educated, and multilingual. If we are to compete in the global economy which is critical to economic growth in the US, these are exactly the people we need in the US.

Well I can't speak for certainty about fields of work I'm not in, however I will reiterate the concerns of white collar workers which is the same complaint I have: they work for nothing.

Now at Walt Disney, they are forcing their American workers to train foreigners to do their jobs because the foreigners are going to replace them. Talk about your mother telling you to go outside and fetch a stick for her to beat you with.

And from what I understand, this is happening all over the tech world and other fields of work that require higher education. I mean, it's bad enough the expense of getting such an education, and now they are not going to make enough money to recoup that investment?

See, you want to tell me about all the good in foreign workers, and I'm telling you all the bad. Would I like to restrict foreign workers because they are turning our country into a bilingual nation? You bet I do. It's one thing to go through all the work to learn another language because it benefits you somehow, but it's quite another when it's slowly becoming a requirement to live in this country. We were fine with English and it should stay that way.

You may hate the fact that America is becoming more multilingual and multicultural but there is no way to avoid it if we want to see strong economic growth. The economic growth we saw in the 20th century was due primarily to population growth which spurred increased consumerism. and our success in competing in global market place.

In the 21st century, growth in consumerism will continue to slow due to decreasing birth rates and environmental concerns. Also, the US population is aging. Without immigration by 2040, we will have a serious shortage of young skilled workers. For these reasons alone we need legal immigration that will bring young skilled workers to the US.

Secondly, we needed immigration because it helps us compete in foreign markets which is where our future economic growth lies. Today 40 million US jobs depend on foreign trade. Tomorrow it will be 50 to 60 million. American businesses expanding into foreign markets, need not just a knowledge of the language but of the culture and an understanding of local markets and what drives them. For this they are depending on employees with that knowledge. It it's not there we will see more jobs moving outside the US.