51% America Makes Less Than $30K

[Brain357]

It's interesting to me that both the Kochs and Bernie Sanders finds the income issue to be a problem for the country, yet their solutions are very different.

What is the koch solution? Tax breaks for the rich?

They seem to say that by unfettering business there will be more/better jobs. They're guests on Morning Joe tomorrow.

So get rid of all regulations and turn us into China? I believe koch industries has a long history of violations. Maybe lower corp taxes even though many pay zero already?

 

[bendog]

It's interesting to me that both the Kochs and Bernie Sanders finds the income issue to be a problem for the country, yet their solutions are very different.

What is the koch solution? Tax breaks for the rich?

They seem to say that by unfettering business there will be more/better jobs. They're guests on Morning Joe tomorrow.

So get rid of all regulations and turn us into China? I believe koch industries has a long history of violations. Maybe lower corp taxes even though many pay zero already?

I'm not a Koch fan, but I'm interested in what they have to say. I won't be voting for Bernie, but I'm sure he's a good man.

 

[Brain357]

It's interesting to me that both the Kochs and Bernie Sanders finds the income issue to be a problem for the country, yet their solutions are very different.

What is the koch solution? Tax breaks for the rich?

They seem to say that by unfettering business there will be more/better jobs. They're guests on Morning Joe tomorrow.

So get rid of all regulations and turn us into China? I believe koch industries has a long history of violations. Maybe lower corp taxes even though many pay zero already?

I'm not a Koch fan, but I'm interested in what they have to say. I won't be voting for Bernie, but I'm sure he's a good man.

It could be interesting. Read a interview a bit ago where one said he's not a republican. He just thinks they are leading us off the cliff slower.

 

[Brain357]

It's interesting to me that both the Kochs and Bernie Sanders finds the income issue to be a problem for the country, yet their solutions are very different.

What is the koch solution? Tax breaks for the rich?

They seem to say that by unfettering business there will be more/better jobs. They're guests on Morning Joe tomorrow.

So get rid of all regulations and turn us into China? I believe koch industries has a long history of violations. Maybe lower corp taxes even though many pay zero already?

I'm not a Koch fan, but I'm interested in what they have to say. I won't be voting for Bernie, but I'm sure he's a good man.

They throw a lot of money at Walker so I assume he does the things they want. Wi is real bad with job creation...

 

[Rustic]

It's interesting to me that both the Kochs and Bernie Sanders finds the income issue to be a problem for the country, yet their solutions are very different.

What is the koch solution? Tax breaks for the rich?

They seem to say that by unfettering business there will be more/better jobs. They're guests on Morning Joe tomorrow.

People really envy them, hence hating them for no other reason than envy.

 

[OnePercenter]

I have the answer.


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2015 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 500 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.



My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.



My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.



My plan would end all welfare.



My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.



My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

 

[OnePercenter]

People really envy them, hence hating them for no other reason than envy.

The Koch Brothers are whats wrong with American business. They'll stop at nothing to make money, including kidnapping.

 

[Rustic]

I have the answer.


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2015 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 500 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.



My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.



My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.



My plan would end all welfare.



My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.



My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

Good lord, not one small business would survive...

 

[Indeependent]

Nope. mostly they point to snake-oil, which a capitalist is more than happy to sell you while exploiting the snakes, the oil, and the people qho put both in the bottle, plus the bottle-makers....

And your form of government works?? How??

Corrupt government

Cities vs shitholes.
I assume from another thread you are an engineer and thus you understand what it takes to build a modern or contemporary city.

You said all cities STARTED in debt. Whether they can become the size of New York without borrowing money is another matter.

Yes..Cities.
Not little shit holes built on Manifest Destiny.

You said "STARTED," asshole. No city starts out having 7 million people.

You know what I meant, neo-Con.
Unlike you, I don't consider Manifest Destiny shit-holes to be cities.
Maybe a one pony town.

I assume you meant "STARTED." Why would I assume anything else?

What's a "manifest destiny shithole," and can you provide an example of one?

Manifest destiny - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Read it. You love to read.

 

[OnePercenter]

I have the answer.


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2015 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 500 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.



My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.



My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.



My plan would end all welfare.



My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.



My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

Good lord, not one small business would survive...

Reducing employee expenses and taxes to 30% of total revenue? How so?

 

[Indeependent]

I have the answer.


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2015 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 500 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.



My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.



My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.



My plan would end all welfare.



My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.



My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

Good lord, not one small business would survive...

Reducing employee expenses and taxes to 30% of total revenue? How so?

You are attempting to apply Logic with a Neo-Con?

 

[Rustic]

I have the answer.


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2015 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 500 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.



My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.



My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.



My plan would end all welfare.



My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.



My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

Good lord, not one small business would survive...

Reducing employee expenses and taxes to 30% of total revenue? How so?

How would that help??

 

[eagle7_31]

I have the answer.


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2015 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 500 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.



My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.



My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.



My plan would end all welfare.



My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.



My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

Good lord, not one small business would survive...

Reducing employee expenses and taxes to 30% of total revenue? How so?

You are attempting to apply Logic with a Neo-Con?

Have you ever taken note of what Disney, Facebook, Microsoft and other companies have done? Recently Disney laid off 200 IT workers but made them train their foreign replacements who were hired at half (give or take) what the laid off US workers were making. Facebook and Microsoft among others use (pardon me but I forget the exact name of the law) an immigration law that allows them to hire foreign workers and pay them half or thereabouts what US workers would make. FB and MS are of course run by left wingers Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates.

 

[Indeependent]

I have the answer.


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2015 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 500 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.



My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.



My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.



My plan would end all welfare.



My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.



My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

Good lord, not one small business would survive...

Reducing employee expenses and taxes to 30% of total revenue? How so?

You are attempting to apply Logic with a Neo-Con?

Have you ever taken note of what Disney, Facebook, Microsoft and other companies have done? Recently Disney laid off 200 IT workers but made them train their foreign replacements who were hired at half (give or take) what the laid off US workers were making. Facebook and Microsoft among others use (pardon me but I forget the exact name of the law) an immigration law that allows them to hire foreign workers and pay them half or thereabouts what US workers would make. FB and MS are of course run by left wingers Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates.

I was a software developer on Wall Street from 1981 to 2000 working for Fortune 500 Financial Firms.
I lived the H1-B invasion.
I endured 20 hour interviews, usually split over 2 days.
The H1-Bs were shipped in en-masse WITHOUT being interviewed because they were cheap.
The non-Indians would BUILD the systems and the Indians came in to learn but they didn't speak English and didn't have a freaking clue as to what was going on.
The trick of every Institution is to cut costs to increase revenue to boost the Stock Price.
Entities exist on a Quarter to Quarter basis.

Gates, Zuckerberg and Ellison, amongst others. should be executed for lying that all non-Indians are unskilled in ANYTHING.

 

[eagle7_31]

I have the answer.


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2015 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 500 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.



My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.



My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.



My plan would end all welfare.



My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.



My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

Good lord, not one small business would survive...

Reducing employee expenses and taxes to 30% of total revenue? How so?

You are attempting to apply Logic with a Neo-Con?

Have you ever taken note of what Disney, Facebook, Microsoft and other companies have done? Recently Disney laid off 200 IT workers but made them train their foreign replacements who were hired at half (give or take) what the laid off US workers were making. Facebook and Microsoft among others use (pardon me but I forget the exact name of the law) an immigration law that allows them to hire foreign workers and pay them half or thereabouts what US workers would make. FB and MS are of course run by left wingers Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates.

I was a software developer on Wall Street from 1981 to 2000 working for Fortune 500 Financial Firms.
I lived the H1-B invasion.
I endured 20 hour interviews, usually split over 2 days.
The H1-Bs were shipped in en-masse WITHOUT being interviewed because they were cheap.
The non-Indians would BUILD the systems and the Indians came in to learn but they didn't speak English and didn't have a freaking clue as to what was going on.
The trick of every Institution is to cut costs to increase revenue to boost the Stock Price.
Entities exist on a Quarter to Quarter basis.

Gates, Zuckerberg and Ellison, amongst others. should be executed for lying that all non-Indians are unskilled in ANYTHING.

No argument from me. H1-B, how could I forget.

 

[initforme]

Big business loves cheap labor. The way to avoid it is not to apply for those lousy jobs. $10 an hour is a joke of a wage even for entry level low skill work.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Welcome to capitalism, baby. Capitalists love cheap labor and there is no such thing as a middle-class in capitalism...

Yes, I wish we had Socialist utopia like Cuba, where if you earn one penny over $25 a day your tossed in a hell hole prison to rot.

Your inability to be rational is noted. Now try posting something accurate like something related to the dark side of capitalism. It has one, like it or not.

Every economic system has one. Or did you miss that class ?

 

[OnePercenter]

How would that help??

Reduces a 50% to 60% cost to 30%.

 

[Rustic]

How would that help??

Reduces a 50% to 60% cost to 30%.

That would all butt kill all small businesses...

 

[OnePercenter]

I was a software developer on Wall Street from 1981 to 2000 working for Fortune 500 Financial Firms.
I lived the H1-B invasion.
I endured 20 hour interviews, usually split over 2 days.
The H1-Bs were shipped in en-masse WITHOUT being interviewed because they were cheap.
The non-Indians would BUILD the systems and the Indians came in to learn but they didn't speak English and didn't have a freaking clue as to what was going on.
The trick of every Institution is to cut costs to increase revenue to boost the Stock Price.
Entities exist on a Quarter to Quarter basis.

Gates, Zuckerberg and Ellison, amongst others. should be executed for lying that all non-Indians are unskilled in ANYTHING.

Didn't those software companies get nailed for not paying minimum wage?

Silicon Valley company busted for paying Indian workers $1.21 an hour in America