50 potential jurors in Trump porn case already dismissed saying they COULD NOT be impartial

[WEATHER53]

Seems two of the seven seated jurors were released today.

Of the five remaining, two of them are lawyers. One is in civil law, one is corporate.

I’m surprised they are letting Any thinkers on board

 

[Rogue AI]

Screwing up Covid Response
Sinking the economy
letting the country descend into riots
inciting an insurrection.

This is kind of like getting Al Capone on income tax evasion. You know he's done far worse stuff, but this is the path of least resistance.

So this sham trial really doesn't have anything to do with the fake charges. Good to know. You folks are really sad.

 

[WEATHER53]

you are going to be so sad when Orange Jesus gets convicted.

The DOJ was being run by a hack who deliberately hid Trump's crimes (and got fired for his trouble).

You drink your Orange cream soda like a good kid

 

[dudmuck]

Seems two of the seven seated jurors were released today.

Of the five remaining, two of them are lawyers. One is in civil law, one is corporate.

Juror #6 has just been selected.

 

[JoeB131]

So this sham trial really doesn't have anything to do with the fake charges. Good to know. You folks are really sad.

Oh, no, Trump really broke the law.

Al Capone really didn't pay his taxes. (Actually what he got convicted on was only a fraction of his illicit wealth.)

Not that I have an objection to convicting Trump on a bogus charge, because the man is such a piece of human excrement, he deserves it.

But they got him dead to rights on this one.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He did have sex with Daniels. But do you think Trump does his own accounting work

Oops sorry that's not going to work this time. The prosecution has too much correspondence between the two men.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

But they got him dead to rights on this one.

On all 91 charges, as far as I can tell.

 

[WEATHER53]

On all 91 charges, as far as I can tell.

Schools out
6/7 already dropped

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Schools out
6/7 already dropped

Hey, it's my whiny little attack poodle, back to beg for attention again.

Dan Bongino is coming on soon, go grab the vaseline... quick...

 

[AZrailwhale]

Was grand jury much different? That is where you are just deciding if there is enough evidence to get a true bill and charge or not?

The Grand Jury is hugely different. A regular jury can only judge upon the evidence presented to it. The members of a normal grand jury can call their own witnesses and ask their own questions. The members of a Criminal Grand Jury can't call their own witnesses and have to filter their questions through the prosecutor who has the ability to decide if they are germane or if he even wants the questions asked. There is no way to go over his head. Sometimes the jurors just can badger him enough to get answers. In our case we had a drug case and one of the jurors asked if the drugs could have been left in the cruiser. The DA refused to pass the question along to the witness and we all dug our heels in and refused to do anything else until we were shown why that was impossible. The DA had us taken out and shown the cruiser in question. The entire back seat area was a single molded piece of plastic. No cushions, and no gaps where anything could have been hidden by a previous passenger. We then issued a true bill. For the system to work, jurors have to be honest, motivated and willing to do the work. Anything less is unfair to the defendant AND society. That's why good people should never try to skip out on jury duty.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Screwing up Covid Response
Sinking the economy
letting the country descend into riots
inciting an insurrection.

This is kind of like getting Al Capone on income tax evasion. You know he's done far worse stuff, but this is the path of least resistance.

Trump wasn't responsible for any of those. 1) Covid response was almost totally in the hands of state and local government, the feds had no legal authority to dictate their actions and didn't in most cases (the CDC was a different case). 2) The economy was sunk by the governors shutting down their states for months NOT THE PRESIDENT. 3) Trump offered the National Guard, Federal LEOs and even the military to quell the riots and was refused. The one time he used federal LEOs, people like you were accusing him of violating the law and kidnapping the criminals who were trying to destroy a Federal Courthouse. 4) He never incited anything, he encouraged people on live TV to go and peacefully demonstrate at the Capital.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Oops sorry that's not going to work this time. The prosecution has too much correspondence between the two men.

As far as I know, it's all about paying for the NDA, NOT how to hide the payments. Paying for an NDA is perfectly legal and is done all the time by both public and private individuals and corporations. If the prosecution actually has documented proof, not testimony by a convicted perjured, that Trump was aware of hiding the payments as political donations, he should be convicted OF THE MISDEMENOR THAT THAT CRIME ACTUALLY IS.

 

[Concerned American]

1) Covid response was almost totally in the hands of state and local government,

Additionally, Trump provided assistance to NYC in the form of 2 hospital ships and ventilators that were never used

 

[ThisIsMe]

You sure did. The reason you posted the CNN article was to very obviously imply bias on the part of the judge.

As usual, you don't have the guts to make your laughable claim explicitly. That's your training from yeard of watching the right wing noise machine.

You must be used to hanging around stupid people or something .

What you absolutely will not do is attempt any actual defense of Trump against the charges. Instead, we get pages and paragraphs of implied fantasies and red herrings.

The reason you posted the CNN article was to very obviously imply bias on the part of the judge.

No, I posted the cnn article because 1) it was the first article I came across that had the information and 2) being cnn, it’s a source you can’t refute.

I don’t need to imply bias..the judges contributions and his daughters career show a pattern of activity that displays their bias on its own.

As usual, you don't have the guts to make your laughable claim explicitly

Yet again..I’ve made my claim very clear, you seem to be just ignoring it (that seems to be a pattern with you). Nothing I can do about text that is right in front of your face that you choose to ignore.

That's your training from yeard of watching the right wing noise machine.

What noise machine do you think I watch? Fox? I very rarely watch Fox News..in fact, I get most of my “news” from political talk radio…of which i listen to programs from conservatives AND progressives. (I’ve said this many times)

What you absolutely will not do is attempt any actual defense of Trump against the charges.

That’s the first accurate thing you’ve said. You’re right, I won’t defend Trump, I’ve said this many times. I’m not really a fan of Trump and couldn’t care any less what happens to him. I’ve stated numerous times that my arguments here are a push back on the games that you democrats play, the games that I hear about from the progressive radio hosts I listen to….the progressive hosts who’s comments mirror the exact same things said in this forum by lefty’s in a daily basis.

Instead, we get pages and paragraphs of implied fantasies and red herrings.

Nothing implied, the stories tell the tale explicitly.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Grand Jury is hugely different. A regular jury can only judge upon the evidence presented to it. The members of a normal grand jury can call their own witnesses and ask their own questions. The members of a Criminal Grand Jury can't call their own witnesses and have to filter their questions through the prosecutor who has the ability to decide if they are germane or if he even wants the questions asked. There is no way to go over his head. Sometimes the jurors just can badger him enough to get answers. In our case we had a drug case and one of the jurors asked if the drugs could have been left in the cruiser. The DA refused to pass the question along to the witness and we all dug our heels in and refused to do anything else until we were shown why that was impossible. The DA had us taken out and shown the cruiser in question. The entire back seat area was a single molded piece of plastic. No cushions, and no gaps where anything could have been hidden by a previous passenger. We then issued a true bill. For the system to work, jurors have to be honest, motivated and willing to do the work. Anything less is unfair to the defendant AND society. That's why good people should never try to skip out on jury duty.

So what?

Are you saying there is evidence that will exonerate Trump that the grand juries didn't see? Or a totally innocent explanation for the facts stated in the indictment?

You must be, else there is nothing there to talk about, re: grand juries.

So.. is there? Because everyone would love to see it. Or maybe you are just saying that MAYBE such evidence and explanation exists.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Additionally, Trump provided assistance to NYC in the form of 2 hospital ships and ventilators that were never used

Because that boat was a stupid idea.

Ventilators?

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/26/trump-ventilators-coronavirus-151311

Trump downplays need for ventilators as New York begs to differ​

“I don’t believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators,” the president said. But city and state officials say they require far more than the administration is providing.

 

[JoeB131]

And here come the excuses!!!!

Trump wasn't responsible for any of those. 1) Covid response was almost totally in the hands of state and local government, the feds had no legal authority to dictate their actions and didn't in most cases (the CDC was a different case).

He was the president, it was his job to provide leadership in a national crisis. The fact was, the people who did show leadership- the governors, mayors, and heads of the agencies, found their efforts frustrated by Trump at every turn. It's why the US had more C-19 cases and deaths than any other country- poor leadership.

2) The economy was sunk by the governors shutting down their states for months NOT THE PRESIDENT.

No, the economy was sunk because Trump didn't respond decisively with a national policy.

3) Trump offered the National Guard, Federal LEOs and even the military to quell the riots and was refused. The one time he used federal LEOs, people like you were accusing him of violating the law and kidnapping the criminals who were trying to destroy a Federal Courthouse.

Quelling the riots wasn't the issue, you stupid fuck. It was that he encouraged the racism and police misconduct people were rightfully upset about.

4) He never incited anything, he encouraged people on live TV to go and peacefully demonstrate at the Capital.

You mean after riling them up for months on Social Media, coordinating with Nazis like the Proud Boys, and telling them to march on the Capitol.

As far as I know, it's all about paying for the NDA, NOT how to hide the payments. Paying for an NDA is perfectly legal and is done all the time by both public and private individuals and corporations. If the prosecution actually has documented proof, not testimony by a convicted perjured, that Trump was aware of hiding the payments as political donations, he should be convicted OF THE MISDEMENOR THAT THAT CRIME ACTUALLY IS.

An NDA to cover up an illegal act is not enforceable.

 

[White 6]

The Grand Jury is hugely different. A regular jury can only judge upon the evidence presented to it. The members of a normal grand jury can call their own witnesses and ask their own questions. The members of a Criminal Grand Jury can't call their own witnesses and have to filter their questions through the prosecutor who has the ability to decide if they are germane or if he even wants the questions asked. There is no way to go over his head. Sometimes the jurors just can badger him enough to get answers. In our case we had a drug case and one of the jurors asked if the drugs could have been left in the cruiser. The DA refused to pass the question along to the witness and we all dug our heels in and refused to do anything else until we were shown why that was impossible. The DA had us taken out and shown the cruiser in question. The entire back seat area was a single molded piece of plastic. No cushions, and no gaps where anything could have been hidden by a previous passenger. We then issued a true bill. For the system to work, jurors have to be honest, motivated and willing to do the work. Anything less is unfair to the defendant AND society. That's why good people should never try to skip out on jury duty.

Sounds, an interesting experience. I have never had a summons for a grand jury of any type. Thanks for personal experience viewpoint.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Screwing up Covid Response
Sinking the economy
letting the country descend into riots

How are those crimes?...lol

 

[krichton]

This could take months to select a jury... guess Biden's henchmen didn't think that over....

The 12 members have already been selected with 6 alternates.