5 1/2 years for bin Laden's driver

[Manuel]

In a stunning rebuke, a six-member U.S. military jury yesterday ignored a Pentagon prosecutor's plea for a 30-year-plus sentence and ordered Osama bin Laden's driver to 66 months in prison.

With credit for 61 months already served, that means Salim Hamdan, a Yemeni father of two with a fourth-grade education, will be sent back to the general detainee population of Camp Delta by January, and be eligible to return home.

Choked with emotion on hearing the sentence, Hamdan stood and addressed the jury, unscripted, and twice more apologized for any pain his work as a $200-a-month driver had caused.

51/2 years for bin Laden's driver | Philadelphia Inquirer | 08/08/2008

 

[editec]

I haven't been following the case.

Aside from being a driver, what did this guy do?

 

[BrianH]

Very smart...let him do some time...and then let him lead us right back to bin Laden....

 

[Larkinn]

I haven't been following the case.

Aside from being a driver, what did this guy do?

Nothing. He drove cars, for a salary. That somehow deserves 5.5 years in prison.

 

[Larkinn]

Very smart...let him do some time...and then let him lead us right back to bin Laden....

Because there is just loads of evidence that this guy was close to OBL, and that he wasn't just a hired servant. Oh, and the loads of evidence how OBL is a fucking moron and will let people who have spent 5 years in Gitmo to get close to him again.

 

[DiamondDave]

Nothing. He drove cars, for a salary. That somehow deserves 5.5 years in prison.

If he was knowingly assisting terrorism... damn straight he deserved prison

 

[jreeves]

Nothing. He drove cars, for a salary. That somehow deserves 5.5 years in prison.

In his opening statement earlier Tuesday, the lead prosecutor contended that Hamdan had learned details of the Sept. 11 attacks, including the intended target of the fourth hijacked plane, which crashed in a Pennsylvania field.


"Virtually no one knew the intended target, but the accused knew," Navy Lt. Cmdr. Timothy Stone told the court, saying Hamdan had admitted to interrogators that he overheard Bin Laden and Ayman Zawahiri talking about attack plans while he drove them. But chief prosecutor Army Col. Lawrence Morris indicated at a news conference later that the eavesdropping occurred after Sept. 11, not before.

As the government began calling witnesses against Hamdan, two U.S. soldiers testified about the tense and chaotic backdrop to his capture and early interrogation near Kandahar, Afghanistan, including three violent incidents involving cars stopped at a vehicle checkpoint in the village of Takhteh Pol. Prosecutors have alleged that two SA-7 surface-to-air missiles were found there in Hamdan's car.
While Soufan has described the driver as a follower, he has also said that Hamdan swore an oath of loyalty to Bin Laden.Bin Laden's driver knew 9/11 target, lawyer says - Los Angeles Times

Lmao..just a driver indeed...

 

[BrianH]

Because there is just loads of evidence that this guy was close to OBL, and that he wasn't just a hired servant. Oh, and the loads of evidence how OBL is a fucking moron and will let people who have spent 5 years in Gitmo to get close to him again.

Why don't you find some BBQ Tongs, and pull your underwear out of you butt crack dude. I was joking. What an ass.

 

[Larkinn]

If he was knowingly assisting terrorism... damn straight he deserved prison

Your right...if he didn't drive OBL around, 9/11 never would have happened.

He wasn't "assisting" terrorism. He was working for them in a NON-criminal capacity.

 

[Larkinn]

In his opening statement earlier Tuesday, the lead prosecutor contended that Hamdan had learned details of the Sept. 11 attacks, including the intended target of the fourth hijacked plane, which crashed in a Pennsylvania field.


"Virtually no one knew the intended target, but the accused knew," Navy Lt. Cmdr. Timothy Stone told the court, saying Hamdan had admitted to interrogators that he overheard Bin Laden and Ayman Zawahiri talking about attack plans while he drove them. But chief prosecutor Army Col. Lawrence Morris indicated at a news conference later that the eavesdropping occurred after Sept. 11, not before.

As the government began calling witnesses against Hamdan, two U.S. soldiers testified about the tense and chaotic backdrop to his capture and early interrogation near Kandahar, Afghanistan, including three violent incidents involving cars stopped at a vehicle checkpoint in the village of Takhteh Pol. Prosecutors have alleged that two SA-7 surface-to-air missiles were found there in Hamdan's car.
While Soufan has described the driver as a follower, he has also said that Hamdan swore an oath of loyalty to Bin Laden.Bin Laden's driver knew 9/11 target, lawyer says - Los Angeles Times

Lmao..just a driver indeed...

Oh wait...didn't he get acquitted of those charges? So now a prosecutor alleging something happens makes it somehow true? And since when did coerced confessions become evidence?

 

[Larkinn]

Why don't you find some BBQ Tongs, and pull your underwear out of you butt crack dude. I was joking. What an ass.

Sure you were. Every time you say something retarded you "were joking".

 

[jreeves]

Oh wait...didn't he get acquitted of those charges? So now a prosecutor alleging something happens makes it somehow true? And since when did coerced confessions become evidence?

What charges are you referring to? The rockets were observed by the solider it wasn't beat out of the defendant...

 

[Larkinn]

What charges are you referring to? The rockets were observed by the solider it wasn't beat out of the defendant...

The charges llike being involved in any terrorist events. He was found not guilty.

 

[DiamondDave]

Your right...if he didn't drive OBL around, 9/11 never would have happened.

He wasn't "assisting" terrorism. He was working for them in a NON-criminal capacity.

Nice leap buffoon.. .nobody said it would not have happened if he did not know or would not have driven... but anyone supporting terrorists and terrorism, knowing of the actions planned for terrorism or that the people they are employed by are committing terrorism, is supporting terrorism...

Again.. this fucker was not FORCED at gunpoint or with threatening his family, to work for a known mass murdering terrorist

 

[BrianH]

Sure you were. Every time you say something retarded you "were joking".

It's most certainly better than your philosophy...

Every time you say something retarded you're serious.

Hey everyone!! The dumbass is back!!

 

[jreeves]

The charges llike being involved in any terrorist events. He was found not guilty.

Link please?

 

[Larkinn]

Nice leap buffoon.. .nobody said it would not have happened if he did not know or would not have driven... but anyone supporting terrorists and terrorism, knowing of the actions planned for terrorism or that the people they are employed by are committing terrorism, is supporting terrorism...

Again.. this fucker was not FORCED at gunpoint or with threatening his family, to work for a known mass murdering terrorist

So would you work for someone who attacked another country to earn a wage to feed your family, or not work at all?

 

[Larkinn]

Link please?

Try reading the link in the OP.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Oh wait...didn't he get acquitted of those charges? So now a prosecutor alleging something happens makes it somehow true? And since when did coerced confessions become evidence?

Wait, your liberal buddies are all arguing Bush is Guilty and Reagan was guilty of things they were never even charged with. Care to discuss THAT?

 

[DiamondDave]

So would you work for someone who attacked another country to earn a wage to feed your family, or not work at all?

No... I would not work for them... I, with a set of morals and a sense of right and wrong, would not work for a terrorist

And before you do it.. .don't try and link the military to being the same as working for a terrorist.. .that ploy won't fly