42 Dead In US Jihad Attacks; Liberals Still Shout "Fear Mongering"

Just within the past 5 years, inside the USA, 42 people lost their lives in Muslim terror attacks. Yet, liberals still claim it is "fearmongering" to object to the immigration of 185,000 people CLAIMING to be Syrian refugees, who the FBI says can't be vetted (of course they can't), and who surely will have ISIS killers tucked in among them.
Along with that lunacy, in January, Donald Trump remarked about how bad it has become in Brussels, and he was attacked by liberals in the New York Times and elsewhere as "Xenophobic". 2 months later, his words were confirmed in the Brussels attack killing 35 and injuring 340.

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Is there a doctor in the house ? Or better yet, a DEPROGRAMMER. Oh well, I guess I'm left with that job.

April 30, 2011 – Rahim Abdul Alfetlawi, 46, shot his step-daughter in the head at point-blank range in Warren, Michigan, after she refused to strictly adhere to Muslim customs. The family claimed the motive was not religion.

Sept. 11, 2011 – Three Jewish men are discovered in Waltham, Massachusetts, with their throats slit from ear to ear and nearly decapitated. Authorities believed the murders were not random, and thousands of dollars in cash and marijuana were left at the scene. According to reports, authorities believe Boston Marathon bombers Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his younger brother, both Muslims, may have been responsible for the triple homicide.

Jan. 15, 2012 – A Jordanian Muslim man, Ali Mahwood-Awad Irsan, 57, gunned down Iranian medical student, Gelareh Bagherzadeh, a friend of his daughter and a Christian convert who widely denounced Islam. He later killed his Christian son-in-law after his daughter married him without permission. Assistant Harris County District Attorney Tammy Thomas told a district judge, “He said, ‘I killed that b–ch, and you’re next. No one insults my honor as a Muslim and gets away with it.'”

Dec. 11, 2012 - A 28-year-old American man is shot to death by a conservative Muslim over an alleged role in converting a woman to Christianity.

Feb. 7, 2013 – Yusuf Ibrahim, 28, shot two Coptic Christians to death and beheaded them in Buena Vista, New Jersey. He also removed their hands before burying their bodies in the backyard of an abandoned house. Quran 8:12 states, “When thy Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them!”

March 31, 2013 – Reshad Riddle walked into an Ashtabula, Ohio, church and fatally shot his father after an Easter service. After the shooting, witnesses say, walked through the church holding the gun and shouted that the slaughter was “the will of Allah. This is the will of God.”

April 15, 2013 – Muslim Chechen brothers Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Tamerlan Tsarnaev detonate two pressure cooker bombs during the Boston Marathon, killing three people and injuring an estimated 264 others. After the bombing, they killed an MIT policeman, stole an SUV and exchanged gunfire with police. Tamerlan was shot and his brother drove over him with the stolen SUV. Tamerlan was pronounced dead at the scene. After a manhunt, police found Dzhokhar hiding in a boat in a man’s backyard. Dzokhar has been sentenced to death.

Aug. 4, 2013 – A Muslim convert, Daymond Agnew, 34, went to an Ace Hardware store on a “mission from Allah to help people” before he fatally stabbed employee Daniel Joseph Stone 17 times.

March 6, 2014 – Registered sex offender James Cosby, 46, is accused of bludgeoning his lesbian daughter to death and shooting her lover in Port Bolivar, Texas. Police believe he then dumped the bodies near a ferry gate. In his bedroom, Cosby had the Quran open to a page that says homosexuality is a sin, family advocate Quanell X told KHOU-TV. “It’s quite unfortunate but he had a real, real warped understanding, in my opinion, of the religion of Islam and its position on the gay lifestyle and what one should do,” Quanell X said.

April 27, 2014 – A 30-year-old Muslim man, Ali Muhammad Brown, is accused of shooting to death two men in Seattle, Washington and a man in New Jersey. According to local reports, he told police the killings were “vengeance” for U.S. actions in the Mideast. According to court documents, he said they were “just kills” and that he was “just doing my small part” as a self-styled jihadist.

June 1, 2014 - Two homosexuals are murdered by an Islamic extremist, in Washington state.

Sept. 25, 2014 – Alton Nolen is accused of beheading a woman in Moore, Oklahoma. Co-workers reported that Nolen had been trying to convert them to Islam. Nolen reportedly used “some Arabic terms” during his attack and had an interest in beheadings. Nolen told a judge, “I’m Muslim. My question is, do you have any Muslims that can represent me as a Muslim?”

December 18, 2014 - A 74-year-old man is shot several times in the head, in Morganton, North Carolina, by a 'radicalized' ISIS supporter.

May 3, 2015 – In Garland, Texas, Pamela Geller, along with her group the American Freedom Defense Initiative, hosted a “Draw Muhammad” event. Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi of Phoenix responded to a call to “avenge the prophet” and traveled to Garland, where they were shot and killed by a security guard after opening fire in an apparent attempt to get into the building. The guard was wounded in the attack. Islamic radicals have since called for Geller’s head, and vow to kill anyone who “blasphemes” Muhammad.

July 16, 2015 – Four U.S. Marines have been shot dead in an attack, reportedly by a lone Islamic gunman, on U.S. Navy facilities in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Chattanooga Mayor Andy Berke said five people died in all, including the gunman. Two law enforcement sources told CBS News that the shooting suspect was identified as Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, 24. Abdulazeez was born in Kuwait and emigrated to the U.S. where he reportedly became a naturalized U.S. citizen.

The FBI is investigating two crime scenes, a Navy recruiting center at a strip mall where the first shots were fired, and a Navy reserve center about 7 miles away. More than 100 rounds were reportedly fired in a shootout with police at the recruitment center parking lot. The shooter then drove to the Navy reserve center and started shooting Marines, four of whom were killed. The Marines would not have been armed at a reserve Navy installation or at a recruitment center, both of which were described as “soft targets.”

The four Marines who were fatally shot reportedly were attacked at the Navy Reserve Center on Amnicola Highway. A police officer at the first location was injured and was being treated at a local hospital for a gunshot wound to the ankle.

Dec. 2, 2015 - A 'very religious' Muslim couple, connected to ISIS, shoot up a Christmas party , leaving fourteen dead, in San Bernardino, California.

Note: These are only attacks in which fatalities occurred in inside the US. Attacks outside the US number well into the hundreds, with as many as 300 killed in one ISIS attack alone in Syria. An attack in Lahore, Pakistan last week killed 70, right after the ISIS Brussels attack which killed 35, and the Paris attack which killed 130.

Islamic Attacks on America

BIG LIST of Muslim terror attacks in U.S. since 9/11

5 years? Over 2500 have died in gun accidents. The right says that is a tiny number so what does that make 42? How many have been killed by angry white guys with guns in mass shootings? Nobody wants any gun control but you ask people to care about 42 in 5 years?
 
42 in 5 years, compared to 9,000 a year from home grown killers with guns. Hmmm... and the latter no one wants to do anything about on the right, but the former is a massive number, or something.

There's plenty the right wants to do about stopping gun violence. Donald Trump has 2 positions in his website on it.

1. Abolish gun-free zones.

2. Establish nationwide CCW permit law.

If these were enacted, gun violence would practically disappear entirely. The obstacle ? >> Liberals.

PS - the "42" is only counting jihadist attacks with fatalities. If I listed all the attacks, it would be far too numerous for an OP. Also, not listed are all the attempted attacks which were stopped by the FBI, and other law enforcement agencies. And also not mentioned are the attacks that could have been stopped if not for liberal loons (like the ACLU), who obstruct police in their efforts to protect Americans (ex. monitoring mosques)

He might as well try banning Snoopy to stop gun violence if that's what he wants to do.

Gun violence would NOT disappear entirely with the abolishment of gun free zones and nationwide CCW permits.

People might choose gun free zones to commit gun killings, but not all gun killings are because people choose to go on the rampage, 9,000 people die a year, there aren't statistics on how many of these happen in gun free zones, and probably many don't.

gun-deaths.jpg


kaiser-foundation-gun-deaths-state-map.png


You can see where death by guns (this is not murder rate) is higher, and it's generally in states with lots of guns and carry and conceal permits or just legalized carry and conceal.


Alaska's a good one. It has a high level of gun ownership, a high level of gun deaths, a high level of rape (the highest in the US and 5 times that of NY state). Louisiana is also a good one, it has the highest prison population in the US and private prisons to boot.

Alaska is an "unrestricted" carry and conceal place. And yet, somehow, this DOESN'T reduce the homicide rate.

Louisiana is a "shall issue" state too.

gun-ownership-study-state-map.png


The reality is that gun ownership is one of the factors that leads to higher gun death rates. This is not a simplistic argument so I will not say it is the only factor as it clearly is not the case.

However Alaska has the highest gun ownership.

Alaska has a higher than average gun murder rate at 5.6 compared to 4.5 for the USA, Louisiana has 10.3 which is more than double the national average.

US-Murder-Rtae-map.jpg


The murder rates.


Nothing here suggests that carry and conceal is reducing the gun murder rate or the gun deaths rate, and nothing here suggests that gun safety zones will do so either.

Typical liberal response to a serious situation.

1. You are off topic, that being the banning of Islam in America due to its supremacism and sedition.

2. Your typical liberal response of looking at charts and numbers (which may or many not be accurate) doesn't cut it. For instance you state that "gun ownership is one of the factors that leads to higher gun death rates" however, that doesn't tell us if this is a good or bad thing. If the majority of these gun deaths occured in self-defense, that is a good thing, which helped to save the gun owner and others. If the folks in the rock concer in Paris had been carrying guns, they could have stopped the terrorists long before they ran their murder rate up to 130. Maybe they would have only killed 10. Maybe just 1 or 2.
 
42 in 5 years, compared to 9,000 a year from home grown killers with guns. Hmmm... and the latter no one wants to do anything about on the right, but the former is a massive number, or something.

There's plenty the right wants to do about stopping gun violence. Donald Trump has 2 positions in his website on it.

1. Abolish gun-free zones.

2. Establish nationwide CCW permit law.

If these were enacted, gun violence would practically disappear entirely. The obstacle ? >> Liberals.

PS - the "42" is only counting jihadist attacks with fatalities. If I listed all the attacks, it would be far too numerous for an OP. Also, not listed are all the attempted attacks which were stopped by the FBI, and other law enforcement agencies. And also not mentioned are the attacks that could have been stopped if not for liberal loons (like the ACLU), who obstruct police in their efforts to protect Americans (ex. monitoring mosques)

He might as well try banning Snoopy to stop gun violence if that's what he wants to do.

Gun violence would NOT disappear entirely with the abolishment of gun free zones and nationwide CCW permits.

People might choose gun free zones to commit gun killings, but not all gun killings are because people choose to go on the rampage, 9,000 people die a year, there aren't statistics on how many of these happen in gun free zones, and probably many don't.

gun-deaths.jpg


kaiser-foundation-gun-deaths-state-map.png


You can see where death by guns (this is not murder rate) is higher, and it's generally in states with lots of guns and carry and conceal permits or just legalized carry and conceal.


Alaska's a good one. It has a high level of gun ownership, a high level of gun deaths, a high level of rape (the highest in the US and 5 times that of NY state). Louisiana is also a good one, it has the highest prison population in the US and private prisons to boot.

Alaska is an "unrestricted" carry and conceal place. And yet, somehow, this DOESN'T reduce the homicide rate.

Louisiana is a "shall issue" state too.

gun-ownership-study-state-map.png


The reality is that gun ownership is one of the factors that leads to higher gun death rates. This is not a simplistic argument so I will not say it is the only factor as it clearly is not the case.

However Alaska has the highest gun ownership.

Alaska has a higher than average gun murder rate at 5.6 compared to 4.5 for the USA, Louisiana has 10.3 which is more than double the national average.

US-Murder-Rtae-map.jpg


The murder rates.


Nothing here suggests that carry and conceal is reducing the gun murder rate or the gun deaths rate, and nothing here suggests that gun safety zones will do so either.

Typical liberal response to a serious situation.

1. You are off topic, that being the banning of Islam in America due to its supremacism and sedition.

2. Your typical liberal response of looking at charts and numbers (which may or many not be accurate) doesn't cut it. For instance you state that "gun ownership is one of the factors that leads to higher gun death rates" however, that doesn't tell us if this is a good or bad thing. If the majority of these gun deaths occured in self-defense, that is a good thing, which helped to save the gun owner and others. If the folks in the rock concer in Paris had been carrying guns, they could have stopped the terrorists long before they ran their murder rate up to 130. Maybe they would have only killed 10. Maybe just 1 or 2.

There are only about 230 justifiable homicides with a gun each year.
 
If this is so important than why are repubs wasting their time placing even more restrictions on "we the people" by legislating the use of anesthesia during abortions procedures in the state of Utah rather than going after arab muslim terrorists.
If use of anesthesia during abortions was so important, why have we not heard about it (when Muslim terrorism is in the news every day) ?
 
If this is so important than why are repubs wasting their time placing even more restrictions on "we the people" by legislating the use of anesthesia during abortions procedures in the state of Utah rather than going after arab muslim terrorists.
If use of anesthesia during abortions was so important, why have we not heard about it (when Muslim terrorism is in the news every day) ?

There is no importance to using the stuff. None whatsoever.
 
42 in 5 years, compared to 9,000 a year from home grown killers with guns. Hmmm... and the latter no one wants to do anything about on the right, but the former is a massive number, or something.

There's plenty the right wants to do about stopping gun violence. Donald Trump has 2 positions in his website on it.

1. Abolish gun-free zones.

2. Establish nationwide CCW permit law.

If these were enacted, gun violence would practically disappear entirely. The obstacle ? >> Liberals.

PS - the "42" is only counting jihadist attacks with fatalities. If I listed all the attacks, it would be far too numerous for an OP. Also, not listed are all the attempted attacks which were stopped by the FBI, and other law enforcement agencies. And also not mentioned are the attacks that could have been stopped if not for liberal loons (like the ACLU), who obstruct police in their efforts to protect Americans (ex. monitoring mosques)

He might as well try banning Snoopy to stop gun violence if that's what he wants to do.

Gun violence would NOT disappear entirely with the abolishment of gun free zones and nationwide CCW permits.

People might choose gun free zones to commit gun killings, but not all gun killings are because people choose to go on the rampage, 9,000 people die a year, there aren't statistics on how many of these happen in gun free zones, and probably many don't.

gun-deaths.jpg


kaiser-foundation-gun-deaths-state-map.png


You can see where death by guns (this is not murder rate) is higher, and it's generally in states with lots of guns and carry and conceal permits or just legalized carry and conceal.


Alaska's a good one. It has a high level of gun ownership, a high level of gun deaths, a high level of rape (the highest in the US and 5 times that of NY state). Louisiana is also a good one, it has the highest prison population in the US and private prisons to boot.

Alaska is an "unrestricted" carry and conceal place. And yet, somehow, this DOESN'T reduce the homicide rate.

Louisiana is a "shall issue" state too.

gun-ownership-study-state-map.png


The reality is that gun ownership is one of the factors that leads to higher gun death rates. This is not a simplistic argument so I will not say it is the only factor as it clearly is not the case.

However Alaska has the highest gun ownership.

Alaska has a higher than average gun murder rate at 5.6 compared to 4.5 for the USA, Louisiana has 10.3 which is more than double the national average.

US-Murder-Rtae-map.jpg


The murder rates.


Nothing here suggests that carry and conceal is reducing the gun murder rate or the gun deaths rate, and nothing here suggests that gun safety zones will do so either.

Typical liberal response to a serious situation.

1. You are off topic, that being the banning of Islam in America due to its supremacism and sedition.

2. Your typical liberal response of looking at charts and numbers (which may or many not be accurate) doesn't cut it. For instance you state that "gun ownership is one of the factors that leads to higher gun death rates" however, that doesn't tell us if this is a good or bad thing. If the majority of these gun deaths occured in self-defense, that is a good thing, which helped to save the gun owner and others. If the folks in the rock concer in Paris had been carrying guns, they could have stopped the terrorists long before they ran their murder rate up to 130. Maybe they would have only killed 10. Maybe just 1 or 2.

There are only about 230 justifiable homicides with a gun each year.

Bullshit,the justifiable shooting by cops alone average around four hundred a year according to the FBI.
Expanded Homicide Data Table 14
 
The question is, if there hadn't been any gun free zones, would he have killed people elsewhere, or would he have not killed people?

Also, could he have said this because he knows what people like you say? It's not hard to be against gun free zones, then go kill people in gun free zones because you're against them, and then make this public.
You're talking in circles. He stayed away from the gun free zone because he was afraid of being shot. That's why all of America should NOT be a gun-free zone and should allow carrying guns(for law-abiding permit carrying American citizens)
 
42 in 5 years, compared to 9,000 a year from home grown killers with guns. Hmmm... and the latter no one wants to do anything about on the right, but the former is a massive number, or something.

There's plenty the right wants to do about stopping gun violence. Donald Trump has 2 positions in his website on it.

1. Abolish gun-free zones.

2. Establish nationwide CCW permit law.

If these were enacted, gun violence would practically disappear entirely. The obstacle ? >> Liberals.

PS - the "42" is only counting jihadist attacks with fatalities. If I listed all the attacks, it would be far too numerous for an OP. Also, not listed are all the attempted attacks which were stopped by the FBI, and other law enforcement agencies. And also not mentioned are the attacks that could have been stopped if not for liberal loons (like the ACLU), who obstruct police in their efforts to protect Americans (ex. monitoring mosques)

He might as well try banning Snoopy to stop gun violence if that's what he wants to do.

Gun violence would NOT disappear entirely with the abolishment of gun free zones and nationwide CCW permits.

People might choose gun free zones to commit gun killings, but not all gun killings are because people choose to go on the rampage, 9,000 people die a year, there aren't statistics on how many of these happen in gun free zones, and probably many don't.

gun-deaths.jpg


kaiser-foundation-gun-deaths-state-map.png


You can see where death by guns (this is not murder rate) is higher, and it's generally in states with lots of guns and carry and conceal permits or just legalized carry and conceal.


Alaska's a good one. It has a high level of gun ownership, a high level of gun deaths, a high level of rape (the highest in the US and 5 times that of NY state). Louisiana is also a good one, it has the highest prison population in the US and private prisons to boot.

Alaska is an "unrestricted" carry and conceal place. And yet, somehow, this DOESN'T reduce the homicide rate.

Louisiana is a "shall issue" state too.

gun-ownership-study-state-map.png


The reality is that gun ownership is one of the factors that leads to higher gun death rates. This is not a simplistic argument so I will not say it is the only factor as it clearly is not the case.

However Alaska has the highest gun ownership.

Alaska has a higher than average gun murder rate at 5.6 compared to 4.5 for the USA, Louisiana has 10.3 which is more than double the national average.

US-Murder-Rtae-map.jpg


The murder rates.


Nothing here suggests that carry and conceal is reducing the gun murder rate or the gun deaths rate, and nothing here suggests that gun safety zones will do so either.

Typical liberal response to a serious situation.

1. You are off topic, that being the banning of Islam in America due to its supremacism and sedition.

2. Your typical liberal response of looking at charts and numbers (which may or many not be accurate) doesn't cut it. For instance you state that "gun ownership is one of the factors that leads to higher gun death rates" however, that doesn't tell us if this is a good or bad thing. If the majority of these gun deaths occured in self-defense, that is a good thing, which helped to save the gun owner and others. If the folks in the rock concer in Paris had been carrying guns, they could have stopped the terrorists long before they ran their murder rate up to 130. Maybe they would have only killed 10. Maybe just 1 or 2.

There are only about 230 justifiable homicides with a gun each year.

Bullshit,the justifiable shooting by cops alone average around four hundred a year according to the FBI.
Expanded Homicide Data Table 14

My number doesn't include police. Adding the two together is still a very small number.
 
There's plenty the right wants to do about stopping gun violence. Donald Trump has 2 positions in his website on it.

1. Abolish gun-free zones.

2. Establish nationwide CCW permit law.

If these were enacted, gun violence would practically disappear entirely. The obstacle ? >> Liberals.

PS - the "42" is only counting jihadist attacks with fatalities. If I listed all the attacks, it would be far too numerous for an OP. Also, not listed are all the attempted attacks which were stopped by the FBI, and other law enforcement agencies. And also not mentioned are the attacks that could have been stopped if not for liberal loons (like the ACLU), who obstruct police in their efforts to protect Americans (ex. monitoring mosques)

He might as well try banning Snoopy to stop gun violence if that's what he wants to do.

Gun violence would NOT disappear entirely with the abolishment of gun free zones and nationwide CCW permits.

People might choose gun free zones to commit gun killings, but not all gun killings are because people choose to go on the rampage, 9,000 people die a year, there aren't statistics on how many of these happen in gun free zones, and probably many don't.

gun-deaths.jpg


kaiser-foundation-gun-deaths-state-map.png


You can see where death by guns (this is not murder rate) is higher, and it's generally in states with lots of guns and carry and conceal permits or just legalized carry and conceal.


Alaska's a good one. It has a high level of gun ownership, a high level of gun deaths, a high level of rape (the highest in the US and 5 times that of NY state). Louisiana is also a good one, it has the highest prison population in the US and private prisons to boot.

Alaska is an "unrestricted" carry and conceal place. And yet, somehow, this DOESN'T reduce the homicide rate.

Louisiana is a "shall issue" state too.

gun-ownership-study-state-map.png


The reality is that gun ownership is one of the factors that leads to higher gun death rates. This is not a simplistic argument so I will not say it is the only factor as it clearly is not the case.

However Alaska has the highest gun ownership.

Alaska has a higher than average gun murder rate at 5.6 compared to 4.5 for the USA, Louisiana has 10.3 which is more than double the national average.

US-Murder-Rtae-map.jpg


The murder rates.


Nothing here suggests that carry and conceal is reducing the gun murder rate or the gun deaths rate, and nothing here suggests that gun safety zones will do so either.

Typical liberal response to a serious situation.

1. You are off topic, that being the banning of Islam in America due to its supremacism and sedition.

2. Your typical liberal response of looking at charts and numbers (which may or many not be accurate) doesn't cut it. For instance you state that "gun ownership is one of the factors that leads to higher gun death rates" however, that doesn't tell us if this is a good or bad thing. If the majority of these gun deaths occured in self-defense, that is a good thing, which helped to save the gun owner and others. If the folks in the rock concer in Paris had been carrying guns, they could have stopped the terrorists long before they ran their murder rate up to 130. Maybe they would have only killed 10. Maybe just 1 or 2.

There are only about 230 justifiable homicides with a gun each year.

Bullshit,the justifiable shooting by cops alone average around four hundred a year according to the FBI.
Expanded Homicide Data Table 14

My number doesn't include police. Adding the two together is still a very small number.

Now how about you dig up the numbers pertaining to ghetto killings.
That'll probably round out the total number of gun deaths.
 
5 years? Over 2500 have died in gun accidents. The right says that is a tiny number so what does that make 42? How many have been killed by angry white guys with guns in mass shootings? Nobody wants any gun control but you ask people to care about 42 in 5 years?

Yeah, I ask people to care VERY MUCH about 42 in 5 years, which in the case of ISIS, could be MILLIONS in one hour, if we're not careful about it.

First you come in here without a shred of source-link evidence to support your claims. Then, you start comparing things that are not part of the real discussion. Could you tell us how many of the "angry white guys" you mention "with guns in mass shootings" have legal permits to carry a gun, and have no criminal background ? And how did race manage to work its way into this ?
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42 in 5 years, compared to 9,000 a year from home grown killers with guns. Hmmm... and the latter no one wants to do anything about on the right, but the former is a massive number, or something.

There's plenty the right wants to do about stopping gun violence. Donald Trump has 2 positions in his website on it.

1. Abolish gun-free zones.

2. Establish nationwide CCW permit law.

If these were enacted, gun violence would practically disappear entirely. The obstacle ? >> Liberals.

PS - the "42" is only counting jihadist attacks with fatalities. If I listed all the attacks, it would be far too numerous for an OP. Also, not listed are all the attempted attacks which were stopped by the FBI, and other law enforcement agencies. And also not mentioned are the attacks that could have been stopped if not for liberal loons (like the ACLU), who obstruct police in their efforts to protect Americans (ex. monitoring mosques)

He might as well try banning Snoopy to stop gun violence if that's what he wants to do.

Gun violence would NOT disappear entirely with the abolishment of gun free zones and nationwide CCW permits.

People might choose gun free zones to commit gun killings, but not all gun killings are because people choose to go on the rampage, 9,000 people die a year, there aren't statistics on how many of these happen in gun free zones, and probably many don't.

gun-deaths.jpg


kaiser-foundation-gun-deaths-state-map.png


You can see where death by guns (this is not murder rate) is higher, and it's generally in states with lots of guns and carry and conceal permits or just legalized carry and conceal.


Alaska's a good one. It has a high level of gun ownership, a high level of gun deaths, a high level of rape (the highest in the US and 5 times that of NY state). Louisiana is also a good one, it has the highest prison population in the US and private prisons to boot.

Alaska is an "unrestricted" carry and conceal place. And yet, somehow, this DOESN'T reduce the homicide rate.

Louisiana is a "shall issue" state too.

gun-ownership-study-state-map.png


The reality is that gun ownership is one of the factors that leads to higher gun death rates. This is not a simplistic argument so I will not say it is the only factor as it clearly is not the case.

However Alaska has the highest gun ownership.

Alaska has a higher than average gun murder rate at 5.6 compared to 4.5 for the USA, Louisiana has 10.3 which is more than double the national average.

US-Murder-Rtae-map.jpg


The murder rates.


Nothing here suggests that carry and conceal is reducing the gun murder rate or the gun deaths rate, and nothing here suggests that gun safety zones will do so either.
I just got done reading an article about one of these incidents.

Feb. 12, 2009 – Pakistani-American Muzzammil Syed Hassan was the CEO of the first American Muslim TV network broadcast in English, Bridge TV. Hassan beheaded his estranged wife, Aasiya Zubair, after she filed for divorce. Her body was found at the TV station. When he was arrested, he said he “felt an incredible amount of relief” after he killed the woman.
Read more at BIG LIST of Muslim terror attacks in U.S. since 9/11


I have no idea what either of you guys are babbling on about.

These two parents from a moderate Muslim family drove each other insane till one of them killed the other, leaving a void in their community, and their children's lives.

Muzzammil Hassan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

. . . and it was done with two hunting knives.


So it has nothing to do with radical Islam, or gun control.


If you investigate all of these incidents individually, they don't tell the story the WND article wants it to tell. A lot of the times you will find that the person who snapped was on psychotropic drugs, was mentally ill, had social problems, wasn't really a practicing Muslim, etc.

I goes on and on. Painted in these little snippets, it looks bad, but it is mostly propaganda.
 
There are only about 230 justifiable homicides with a gun each year.
You suddenly show up without maps, charts, sources, and if you did, I wouldn't believe it. "only about 230 justifiable homicides with a gun each year" sounds preposterous. (if there are thousands of gun deaths. The reason why the murder rates have gone down nationally, is because of CCW laws.
 
Now how about you dig up the numbers pertaining to ghetto killings.
That'll probably round out the total number of gun deaths..

How you (and all of us) posting ON TOPIC about the use of the word "fearmongering" relative to hundreds (if not thousands) of jihadist attacks going on + ISIS' threat to attack the US + their activity in acquiring NUCLEAR WEAPONS
 
I just got done reading an article about one of these incidents.

Feb. 12, 2009 – Pakistani-American Muzzammil Syed Hassan was the CEO of the first American Muslim TV network broadcast in English, Bridge TV. Hassan beheaded his estranged wife, Aasiya Zubair, after she filed for divorce. Her body was found at the TV station. When he was arrested, he said he “felt an incredible amount of relief” after he killed the woman.
Read more at BIG LIST of Muslim terror attacks in U.S. since 9/11


I have no idea what either of you guys are babbling on about.

These two parents from a moderate Muslim family drove each other insane till one of them killed the other, leaving a void in their community, and their children's lives.

Muzzammil Hassan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

. . . and it was done with two hunting knives.


So it has nothing to do with radical Islam, or gun control.


If you investigate all of these incidents individually, they don't tell the story the WND article wants it to tell. A lot of the times you will find that the person who snapped was on psychotropic drugs, was mentally ill, had social problems, wasn't really a practicing Muslim, etc.

I goes on and on. Painted in these little snippets, it looks bad, but it is mostly propaganda.
FALSE! The beheading of Aasiya Zubair absolutely was a consequence of Islam, which is why it was done the way it was (as directed in the Koran). The story is told correctly, and YOU are the one who is babbling & propagandizing in support of Islam, in posting the foolish post you just did.
 
That's why I brought it up. Because it has everything to do with oppression and nothing to do with providing healthcare for women.
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